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Ithrien Dusat - ex-Student |
What do you think peoples reactions would be to bullets in the SW Universe? Jedi's would be defenseless against a bullet(imagine a jedi deflecting a 50cal round lol You could probably have 3 bullets hit a someone by the time 1 laser hit someone.(now guys this is on planets or ships where there is gravity) _______________ Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny, consume you it will... Jedi Master Yoda |
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Luke Skywalker - Student 
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Do you not mean metallic bolts? _______________  Luke Skywalker
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Plo Koon - Student 
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you guys do know there are bullets in SW right? the shot zam wessel fires at the droid that's carrying Obiwan in episode 2 above coruscant is a "projectile weapon" meaning it uses a bullet instead of laser. also the Wookies use the Bowcaster wich is a metal bullet encased in energy so... _______________ Free Tibet! Click this link,and learn Here too This comment was edited by Plo Koon on Nov 05 2004 01:03am. |
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Everybody - Student 
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bullets, because star wars lasers are a load of crap travelling at all of one metre per second. _______________ Signature, schmignature. |
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Blademaster - Student 
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In the Star Wars Universe, the Jedi have been dealing with various pieces of metal (yes, even bullets) for hundreds of years. If you look in one of the semi-new comic books released, Jango Fett: Open Season, Jango attempts to kill a large group of Jedi by ordering his Mandalorians to fire "projectiles only" instead of their blasters. With predictable results, the Jedi, under the command of one Master Dooku, raise their hands and shift the course of the bullets back toward the Mandalorians (kind of like Neo in The Matrix Reloded. So, in the end, bullets or blasters, the Jedi have found ways to deal with them all. _______________ Let's race. You, me, and 5 kilometers of ground. The only question is: Do you feel fast today? |
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Plo Koon - Student 
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when an object moves fast enough the air molecules around do get hot,therefore like the heat of re-entry _______________ Free Tibet! Click this link,and learn Here too |
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JavaGuy - Student 
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Bullets do not burn up because metal doesn't burn. They can get hot, even melt, in flight and still be just as effective--the mass doesn't change. A Jedi could theoretically dodge a real laser simply by virtue of the knowing where it's going to hit before his attacker even fires the laser--no real need to move physically faster than light. But again, I think we've pretty well established that blaster bolts are not lasers. _______________ My signature is only one line. You're welcome. |
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Plo Koon - Student
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they dont move at the speed of light  if a peice of metal goes that fast it would burn up against the heat of the air. _______________ Free Tibet! Click this link,and learn Here too This comment was edited by Plo Koon on Oct 11 2004 11:38pm. |
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Flux - Student 
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If lasers traveled at the speed of light, there's no way a Jedi could deflect it. At 299,792,458 meters a second, I doubt anything could even see the trajectory of a blaster bolt. Blaster bolts travel visibly slower than bullets, since a blaster bolt's trajectory can be visibly seen while a bullet hits its target in a fraction of a second. One example of the whole metal projectile encased in a "plasma shell" is a Wookie Bowcaster. According to my own handy-dandy JK3 Instruction Manual, it reads that the weapon fires "powerful bolts of metal enveloped in energy pockets". Not only the Bowcaster, but also the Imperial Repeater and Golan Arms are described as shooting "metal bullets". But like you said, how's it that the bullets do not get burned up? What is this mysterious super-metal? And if it's so strong as to not get burned up, how does it suddenly disappear when shot against a wall or solid target? How does it continuously fire metal bullets without being physically reloaded? This whole post is making me feel pretty nerdy already so I'll just leave my advice on it all: try not to think about it too much. _______________ When great gentlemens come together in a place. It could happen. All these gentlemen are Howard's family. Everybody knows them, but nobody knows. Why they come together.......... Just play cards. This comment was edited by Flux on Oct 12 2004 01:41am. |
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Vaughn - Student 
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um, please disregard this post because i haven't read any other opinions a metal bullet would do absolutely nothing. For one, lasers travel at the speed of light. Two, bullets travel slightly faster than the speed of sound. Bullets are metallic, they'd be burned up by the lightsaber. the lasers are reflected. No bullets would work well in outerspace. lasers would own in outerspace... need i say more? _______________ When you become an actor, you become the person, and you dont act anymore. You just are. - Tyler HP, Taught by Mr G Simpson |
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JavaGuy - Student
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I never thought metal projectiles for precisely the reason you mention: Never once saw one reloaded in the movies. But sure, some kind of energy projectile. Definitely not something that travels the speed of light. Much of the physics and engineering of Star Wars falls apart under heavy analysis, but a possible explanation for why blaster bolts and not bullets is that a blaster bolt can go through things that will stop a bullet. In the original novel, Star Wars, which Lucas actually wrote himself, it says that stormtrooper armor can deflect a glancing blaster bolt but that there was no defense against a direct hit. I'm sure stormtrooper armor could stop a bullet. BTW, long before Star Wars, Isaac Asimov wrote a series of novels about a character named Lucky Starr, who traveled around the solar system having adventures. Asimov was a physicists himself, and the science of the novels was good for what was known at the time. In those novels, they used weapons called--drumroll please--blasters. They fired a solid projectile that exploded with great force on impact. I seem to recall something about it being like a mini-nuclear explosion, but my memory may be faulty since that doesn't really jibe with what's physically possible, and Asimov was a stickler for accuracy. Betcha nobody can find an earlier science fiction reference to a gun called a blaster than that.  _______________ My signature is only one line. You're welcome. |
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Flux - Student 
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I've always thought that the "blaster bolts" were some kind of metal projectile encased in a type of "plasma shell" to put it roughly. But when I think about it more, what's with the energy chargers for blasters? Has anyone ever seen a blaster be "reloaded" if such a thing was even possible? And if it were metal projectiles, that would mean the projectiles would have to be reloaded as well. Energy chargers don't exactly do that. You'd think that a civilization capable of fusion reactors, light-speed travel and friggin' doomsday space stations that blow up planets would figure that a machine gun would be a more efficient killer than a lame e-11 rifle (not that Storm Troopers can seem to aim properly anyway). Instead of being hacked to pieces by Jedi and being grabbed by their nuts with force grip and flung off of a cliff, all a Storm Trooper has to do is fire up his rapid-fire weapon of choice and watch that sucker fall. _______________ When great gentlemens come together in a place. It could happen. All these gentlemen are Howard's family. Everybody knows them, but nobody knows. Why they come together.......... Just play cards. |
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JavaGuy - Student
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Quote: yep,lazers travel alot faster then a peice of metal.Jedi could sense where its coming from and either melt them into nothing-ness or use force pus or hold like yoda. I never took blaster fire to be lasers in the movies. I know the EU sometimes refers to laser pistols and rifles, but in the movies (which are cannon) I don't recall any reference to them other than "blasters." It makes no sense that they would be lasers. A laser is unidirectional and cannot be seen at all unless a) it passes through smoke or fog, which disperses some of the light and causes it to appear as a spooky shaft of light, or b) it goes directly into your eye and hits your retina, in which case you would see it for an instant before becoming blind. Blaster bolts do not resemble any kind of a beam either, plus it is possible to see them with the naked eye, the way one can see a tracer bullet fired from a gun at night. Clearly they travel much, much more slowly than light. So in terms of being able to dodge/deflect them, I think blaster bolts are about on par with bullets. I agree, Jedi are powerful but not gods, but I think a Jedi would do okay against bullets. Jedi were killed with blasters, of course, and could be by bullets as well. _______________ My signature is only one line. You're welcome. |
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Jarhok Belouve - Student 
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surely wif a jedis reactions (just look at the scene in episode 1 when qui gon cathes jar jars tongue) they could easily move there lightsaber to deflect the bullet or use force push  _______________ -JARHOK BELOUVE- Unofficial Paddy to the great Squibit Belouve and Solitudes snog machine! |||||||||||||||||||||||PRONOUNCED JARHOK TEH S3X3H by Alexander D'kana||||||||||||||||||||||||| Loves Liso'sia! Uber new Belouve boy! My special people: Squibit Belouve,Roan Belouve,Bail Hope Belouve and of course the lovely Liso'sia! |
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Thomasooo - Student 
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Jedi and their lightsabers > guns _______________ In the navy and LOVING it!
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Ashyr - Student 
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Like Neo or something? _______________ Top ten reasons to get a better computer...|My fan |
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Matej - Student |
Why dont you guys just ask a cop to shoot at you and try to deflect bullets with force |
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Plo Koon - Student
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yoda could bend the machine gun nose with the force _______________ Free Tibet! Click this link,and learn Here too |
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Carve - Student 
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Jedi aren't Gods. I think a machine gun would school a Jedi - but only under the assumption that the machinegun-wielding fiend and the Jedi were on a big open plain or something. Jedi are resourceful, you know. I'd probably use the Force to point the machine-gun to the side or something. ;-) _______________ © |
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Plo Koon - Student
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yep,lazers travel alot faster then a peice of metal.Jedi could sense where its coming from and either melt them into nothing-ness or use force pus or hold like yoda. _______________ Free Tibet! Click this link,and learn Here too |
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Squibit - Student 
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Sorry to bump an old thread but I found this really interesting thread and would like to keep talking  Also my dad said somthing quite funny when i asked him what he thought about bullets and a light sabre, "Pah, the lightsaber would probably vapourise the bullet. But it wouldn't matter anyway. A jedi wouldn't need to stop the bullets with his lightsaber he could use the force to stop them, Neo-Style" Thats kinda similar to what was just said I know but rather than force push them , a jedi could like just hold them in plac,e force freeze them , right ? _______________ Quote: fiZZe: its SIR Fizzy Fluffy :p Quote: FiZZ[JAK]: that was what I call a counter Ah, things you only ever expect to hear once
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DragonFly - Ex-Student 
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ey, bullets whould accually not affect jedi, jedi have to force, so jedi could force push them back. and also if a jedi blocked the bullet, the bullet would disolved as soon as the blade swept over it, now then. If a jedi lightsaber can rip open a dura-steel blast door, im sure they could incenerate a tiny bullet. but if you want to image that bullets were slightly larger than todays bullets, lets say the size of a tennis ball. Then the jedi whould be much more away and esaily dodge it with a side-step or leap. you guyz are really underestimating what a lightsaber can do! peace bros! _______________ Own me!!?? You dont even own a bike!!! -Roans Mother -unofical GIANT ATOMIC TEDY to SmilyCrazy |
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DragonFly - Ex-Student 
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guys, we must look to "Star Wars Galaxies" for the answer to this stormtrooper riddle, i am a Tka (martial artist) and i kill stormies all the time, take that stormie armor! _______________ Own me!!?? You dont even own a bike!!! -Roans Mother -unofical GIANT ATOMIC TEDY to SmilyCrazy |
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Plo Koon - Student
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i wouldnt want to find out _______________ Free Tibet! Click this link,and learn Here too |
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Flamori Athena - Student 
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actually, in one of the books, either the junior jedi knights or the young jedi knights series, the dark jedi Brakiss throws a javelin at a stormtrooper recruit. the javelin doesnt break the armor. when the recruit asks what that was for, Brakiss says, "to teach you respect for your stormtrooper armor." but after explaining that the armor can turn most forms of melee weapons, he also says, "but dont forget a blaster bolt will tear through that armor like rice paper." stormtrooper armor always looked like it was made out of plastic to me. but if it can stop swords and spears and stuff, maybe it can stop bullets too. _______________ «±» 21st on the Midbie Council, Profile ID: 2027 «±» True wisdom is the knowledge that you know nothing. |
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Darth Bamse - Student 
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Quote: earring-sized shield generator that deflects bullets? interesting invention ...care to explain how that might work? I could, but as it is a military secret, i would have to make sure that you never left the room.  Quote: you cant guess the evolution of technology before it happens. how would you know whether guns are really a predescor to blasters? Quite true. I wouldn't know at all. But as a theory, it does sound kind of plausible, doesn't it? Quote: I've seen stormies get shot by sand people before, they use bullets Well, I guess i didn't think of that. But on the other hand, that leads to another problem. Unless the Sand people uses some kind of hyper-ultra-bullets (and my theory holds), then why do stormtroopers wear armour? it doesn't take more than one shot from any gun to kill them anyway, you can even use hand weapons to down them. There seems to be no point for the Storm Troopers to wear full body armour, except for winning a prize for most unconfortable working clothes.. You are forgetting that the source of all this is a movie. The stormtroopers wear armour because it looks cool. And mind you, in the movies they never use the really small weapons. The only one-hand weapon they use is Han's blaster, and that one's modified. Apart from that, they mostly use the stormie's own weapons, which should be quite effective. _______________ Why use only one saber, when you can use two, and double the mayhem? |
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