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Ithrien Dusat - ex-Student |
What do you think peoples reactions would be to bullets in the SW Universe? Jedi's would be defenseless against a bullet(imagine a jedi deflecting a 50cal round lol You could probably have 3 bullets hit a someone by the time 1 laser hit someone.(now guys this is on planets or ships where there is gravity) _______________ Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny, consume you it will... Jedi Master Yoda |
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Kueller - Student 
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UHm, Maybe I'm wrong here, but if you'd try to stop those metallic bullets, wouldn't they just melt and go through your saber as molten blobs of super-hot metal. Now THAT wouldn't be fun for the jEdi in question. The reason the laser bolts in Star Wars went so slow is because it's better to film that way and do special stuff with it like deflecting. You can't compare bits of RL with bits of Movie-material I think. Just my HO  _______________ Personal sleepness-nights-supporter of Virtue. Owner of the 1000th comment of Daidalus and 1943th comment of Gradius! Owner of the 300th comment of Carda! -Taught Gradius all his laming skills
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Ithrien Dusat - Ex-Student |
well hell, i'm just glad most of my topics are succesfful=) _______________ Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny, consume you it will... Jedi Master Yoda |
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Evil Squirrel - Student 
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*cough* Must you two yell at eachother for pointless reasons, who cares, you say what YOU think and then carry on, (maybe read what others think) but you DONT have to argue about it, they think this, you think that, very simple, no need to argue  carry about whatever you "people" do _______________ "I'm leaning more towards the cookie side" - leif two time winner of the "SilkMonkey Award for Best Evil Squirrel Based Avatar Picture" award! Geology Rocks! |
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Luke Skywalker - Student 
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Hence... metallic bolts.. makes perfect sense. _______________  Luke Skywalker
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Buzz - Student 
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The Battledroids going through the shield generators... That's easy: Those shields are merely energy shields. They will only block energy attacks. In Star Wars there are also particle shields. These are the shields that block Proton Torpedo's and Concussion Missiles, and the type of shield that kept them from attacking the second Deathstar. A projectile weapon wouldn't work any better against a jedi I think. The bullets would be matter and Jedi could probably anticipate them even easier than a blaster bolt. Think Neo in the matrix dodging and stopping the bullets. You have no clue how much The Force can enhance the speed of the jedi along with their foresight. And the Lightsaber would likely incinerate any additional bullets. And if you guys didn't know the imperial repeater is a machine gun. Its firing bullets, not energy. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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Luke Skywalker - Student
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First of all, if I wanted authority over you in an online community, I wouldn't have stepped down, now would I have? Secondly, calm down and understand the point of what I said. In retaliation to what I posted in regards to the thread topic, you decided to be sarcastic with me. Not very respectful yourself, are you? Thirdly, you're right, if you want to be respected, don't disrespect. Next time be a little careful of how you word things, and it won't be taken the wrong way. If perhaps you did not mean to come up with something as sarcastic, then my sincerest apologies to you there. I still, however, hold onto what I said, be careful of how you word things. Now isn't the time to be argueing, so may we pass by it Ancient? Maybe I should have stated more peacefully that I didn't appreciate sarcasm, but in the mood I was in, I didn't know how I could do that, so sorry once again. Quote: also, you can't talk RL physics here, Lucas said it himself , you have to think..star wars physics  * darkwood goes back to whatever he's doing I think you hit the nail right in the head, as well. Guess that concludes this whole thread, doesn't it? EDIT: Reason I put that line in bold was so you didn't miss it, as I felt that was the most important part of what I have to say. EDIT #2: I had a question for you Ancient, now that I remember it and you seem to have wide knowledge on physics: A sniper in JK2 and JKA is the ideal example of a laser you said. From what I also know a laser is basically an endless beam of energy (until it makes contact with something it can't penatrate of course). Would there ever be a way to set a range for the laser? (You know where I'm going with this, if not, make something similar to a lightsaber. ) _______________ Luke Skywalker
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Ancient - Ex-Student 
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Quote: also, you can't talk RL physics here, Lucas said it himself , you have to think..star wars physics * darkwood goes back to whatever he's doing This might be true  _______________ -THE ONE WITH THE "STAFF" -BROTHER TO FROSTY -Admitted to University of California, San Diego(UCSD). YAY! |
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Ancient - Ex-Student 
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Quote: Don't give me that tone next time. Plz, who give me THAT TONE first?? I never said you are dum, stupid or anything disrespectful, right?? I just bring up some suggestions or idea in real life science field that CAN HELP US SEE MORE OF THOSE SITUATIONS, ok????? But you said i am a little BASTARD??? HELL no!!!!! Who the heck are you that can call me like that, my DAD?? Or my MOM?? THAT IS GETTING SERIOUS, YOU DONT SAY THING LIKE THAT TO OTHERS, dont think you have higher authority than me or something, maybe you do in HERE, but never in RL. To me, you are just a little kid, you know. IF YOU WANT SOMEONE TO RESPECT YOU, YOU HAVE TO DO THE SAME TO OTHERS FIRST My theory is, if you dont respect me, WHO THE HECK ARE YOU THAT WANT MY RESPECT???? _______________ -THE ONE WITH THE "STAFF" -BROTHER TO FROSTY -Admitted to University of California, San Diego(UCSD). YAY! This comment was edited by Ancient on Apr 19 2004 12:18am. |
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Darkwood - Student 
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also, you can't talk RL physics here, Lucas said it himself , you have to think..star wars physics * darkwood goes back to whatever he's doing _______________ -Darkwood- |
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Evil Squirrel - Student 
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whats all this? fighting!? tsk tsk, dont you all know that a jedi would PWN everyone and everything no matter what, it doesn't matter if its laser or bullet! simply put: JEDI PWN EVERYONE, THEY ROCK!!!! -Evil Squirrel Ender of pointless fights _______________ "I'm leaning more towards the cookie side" - leif two time winner of the "SilkMonkey Award for Best Evil Squirrel Based Avatar Picture" award! Geology Rocks! |
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Luke Skywalker - Student 
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Quote: Plz dont call me that, this is VERY DISREPECTFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!  Don't give me that tone next time. Quote: ummmm....you did actually....  Quote: A Jedi would be able to block a bullet, just not deflect it anywhere. Quote: what do lightsabers do when they come in contact with matter?  That doesn't tell me where I said the Jedi was actually going to stand there and block the bullet. _______________ Luke Skywalker
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Ancient - Ex-Student
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Quote: First of all, did I say the Jedi was going to stand there and block a bullet? No I didn't so get off of me about it. ummmm....you did actually.... Quote: A Jedi would be able to block a bullet, just not deflect it anywhere. Quote: what do lightsabers do when they come in contact with matter? _______________ -THE ONE WITH THE "STAFF" -BROTHER TO FROSTY -Admitted to University of California, San Diego(UCSD). YAY! This comment was edited by Ancient on Apr 18 2004 06:19pm. |
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Ancient - Ex-Student
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Quote: Luke, do you know that bullet got a min speed of 500 m/s?? It is alot alot faster than the laser bot... just think about this: speed of sound only got 380m/s, and some gun even got a speed of 700m/s. So, imagine a jedi has to move his hand faster than 700m/s(faster coz you trying to block it after the bullet was out), LOL, I bet you cant see his hand....lol Quote: But that sniper is a type of energy... bullets are matter, what do lightsabers do when they come in contact with matter? LOL,obviously, you never study physics, All MATTER in this world or universe are types of ENERGY, you will study that in Quantum Physics ANd the equations E=mc2(square) is coverting mass to energy, in another word all matter are energy Also, in chemistry, metal has a very strong bonding that cannot be broke easily.... you have to apply alot of energy to break them. However, with the energy of the lightsaber, metal sure will melt in ash....i just wanna let you know that metal has a stronger bonding than most of other matters.... At this point, all I see you doing is being a sarcastic little bastard. First of all, did I say the Jedi was going to stand there and block a bullet? No I didn't so get off of me about it. Quote: Imagine a bullet going through a lightsaber blade. It'd just be destroyed. Thank you JJ, you explained that part a whole lot better for me. I just try to explain it better with science man..... if you dont like it.../me shut up...  Quote: sarcastic little bastard Plz dont call me that, this is VERY DISREPECTFUL!!!!!!!!!!!! _______________ -THE ONE WITH THE "STAFF" -BROTHER TO FROSTY -Admitted to University of California, San Diego(UCSD). YAY! This comment was edited by Ancient on Apr 18 2004 06:22pm. |
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Luke Skywalker - Student
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Quote: Luke, do you know that bullet got a min speed of 500 m/s?? It is alot alot faster than the laser bot... just think about this: speed of sound only got 380m/s, and some gun even got a speed of 700m/s. So, imagine a jedi has to move his hand faster than 700m/s(faster coz you trying to block it after the bullet was out), LOL, I bet you cant see his hand....lol Quote: But that sniper is a type of energy... bullets are matter, what do lightsabers do when they come in contact with matter? LOL,obviously, you never study physics, All MATTER in this world or universe are types of ENERGY, you will study that in Quantum Physics ANd the equations E=mc2(square) is coverting mass to energy, in another word all matter are energy Also, in chemistry, metal has a very strong bonding that cannot be broke easily.... you have to apply alot of energy to break them. However, with the energy of the lightsaber, metal sure will melt in ash....i just wanna let you know that metal has a stronger bonding than most of other matters.... At this point, all I see you doing is being a sarcastic little bastard. First of all, did I say the Jedi was going to stand there and block a bullet? No I didn't so get off of me about it. Quote: Imagine a bullet going through a lightsaber blade. It'd just be destroyed. Thank you JJ, you explained that part a whole lot better for me. _______________ Luke Skywalker
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Imagine a bullet going through a lightsaber blade. It'd just be destroyed. So, no deflection, but definant defense. Also, think about shields. In Episode 1, you see Battledroids walk right through a shield barrier. Would work the same for bullets, right? |
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Ash - Eats Babies 
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cant tell how fast a bullet will compare to a laser gun since it doesnt exist (and i mean a laser gun not some kooky laser machine). actually i think the real question is: If bullets travel faster then lasers then why are they using laser guns? sure the damage is good with the laser, but it looks as if you can sidestep out of the way of it. EDIT: wait wait sorry saw ithrian's comment about this not being about RL. ok ill shut up. if this is all SW universe then rock out. bullets probably are faster then lasers then. _______________ "We keep odd hours...." ----------------------- They Live, We Sleep This comment was edited by Ash on Apr 17 2004 08:46pm. |
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Ancient - Ex-Student
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Quote: if you are going by the speed of the lasers in the game then yes, bullets seem to be faster then lasers. but then that comment seems stupid since a laser is nothing more then concentrated light and should be traveling at the speed of light which a bullet does not travel at. so technically a laser should be faster then a bullet. Nop, this doesnt make sense....since laser cant be release in a bullet form....in my observation, those red laser should not be lasers, since "laser should be in a speed of light", and they should be a packet of "energy wave" that DONT have the speed of light, if you wanna more information of the properties of wave, study physics P.S. Differently the sinper in jk3 and jk2 should be lasers, sinces it is exactly fit the laser properties....speed of light, with a wave and particle properties, which we call photons...and stuff like that _______________ -THE ONE WITH THE "STAFF" -BROTHER TO FROSTY -Admitted to University of California, San Diego(UCSD). YAY! This comment was edited by Ancient on Apr 17 2004 07:08pm. |
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Ancient - Ex-Student
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Luke, do you know that bullet got a min speed of 500 m/s?? It is alot alot faster than the laser bot... just think about this: speed of sound only got 380m/s, and some gun even got a speed of 700m/s. So, imagine a jedi has to move his hand faster than 700m/s(faster coz you trying to block it after the bullet was out), LOL, I bet you cant see his hand....lol Quote: But that sniper is a type of energy... bullets are matter, what do lightsabers do when they come in contact with matter? LOL,obviously, you never study physics, All MATTER in this world or universe are types of ENERGY, you will study that in Quantum Physics ANd the equations E=mc2(square) is coverting mass to energy, in another word all matter are energy Also, in chemistry, metal has a very strong bonding that cannot be broke easily.... you have to apply alot of energy to break them. However, with the energy of the lightsaber, metal sure will melt in ash....i just wanna let you know that metal has a stronger bonding than most of other matters.... _______________ -THE ONE WITH THE "STAFF" -BROTHER TO FROSTY -Admitted to University of California, San Diego(UCSD). YAY! This comment was edited by Ancient on Apr 17 2004 07:22pm. |
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Ithrien Dusat - Ex-Student |
yes, but lasers are altered in the SW universe to move at the speed they do. were not talkin about RL=) _______________ Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny, consume you it will... Jedi Master Yoda |
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Ash - Eats Babies
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if you are going by the speed of the lasers in the game then yes, bullets seem to be faster then lasers. but then that comment seems stupid since a laser is nothing more then concentrated light and should be traveling at the speed of light which a bullet does not travel at. so technically a laser should be faster then a bullet. _______________ "We keep odd hours...." ----------------------- They Live, We Sleep |
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Luke Skywalker - Student
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That works too of course.  EDIT: Duude... the Partymobile! _______________ Luke Skywalker
This comment was edited by Luke Skywalker on Apr 17 2004 06:15am. |
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SilkMonkey - Distributor of Cold Ones 
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I think they both suck....I'd take my deathstar and pwn everyone _______________ |-HK-47 -SilkMonkey: You are receiving a warning for being_too_sexy. If you do not stop, action will be taken against you.|| (11:13:43) � Virtue dances for Silk ||Smiling owner of Smilykrazy's 6000th comment =) ||Odan Wei's Proud Big Brother|| Janus is my official TaruTaru Cuddly Animal Type Person. ||(@Virtue) Or you could just be a man and set fire to your genitals.....you won't fall asleep for days after that.......trust me.||Thomas Skywalker er for sexy for sitt eget beste!!!!| Not changing sig until the JA loosens up. (Started: Aug 31, 2005) |
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Luke Skywalker - Student
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But that sniper is a type of energy... bullets are matter, what do lightsabers do when they come in contact with matter? ESPECIALLY metal? They burn right through. EDIT: Don't even dare bring up anything about cortosis, if cortosis bullets were made, they'd be even more useless. _______________ Luke Skywalker
This comment was edited by Luke Skywalker on Apr 17 2004 06:03am. |
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Ancient - Ex-Student
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LOL...i thought that a thousand times too....i think the only think they can do is dodge....like when you try to shot a Reborn or dark jedi in SP game with a sinper pisto... _______________ -THE ONE WITH THE "STAFF" -BROTHER TO FROSTY -Admitted to University of California, San Diego(UCSD). YAY! |
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Luke Skywalker - Student
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You know, I've been really thinking about this a lot. A Jedi would be able to block a bullet, just not deflect it anywhere. Plus I think it would be a little harder to aim with a bullet gun... as you don't exactly see where your shots are going, possibly making it a lot easier for a Jedi to zip right up to you and knock your head off. Just a thought. _______________ Luke Skywalker
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