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more civilized age?
Apr 17 2004 07:08pm

crazy_hacker
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Obi 1 says that a lightsaber is Quote:
An elegant weapon for a more civilized age
. But think about it for a minute. What is more civilized, being shot, your dead, thats it. Or being hacked up painfully with a blade of pure energy. Id rather just die than get dismembered, disemboweled, stabbed, decapitated, any of that stuff. Its basically not civilized at all, just a shiny sword. So which do you think is more civilized, had Obi 1 not said anything: blaster or saber
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This post was edited by crazy_hacker on Apr 18 2004 12:39am.

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Jul 10 2004 12:52am

R2D2
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Sort of like the Samurai. There is no honor in being killed by a gun, lightsaber would be a much more better choice.
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Jun 25 2004 11:32pm

Kew
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well the balster is better in the hands on a bounty hunter or space pirate and the saber is stronger in the hands on a jedi or a sith;)


Spoiler below:




Obi wan uses a blaster to kill general grivious in episode 3 apparently.
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Jun 09 2004 02:20pm

Jawa Rikard Falk
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well the balster is better in the hands on a bounty hunter or space pirate and the saber is stronger in the hands on a jedi or a sith;)
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Jun 07 2004 10:00am

Flamori Athena
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 Flamori Athena

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feh lightsabers more elegant and it go9es up and down and side to side-guns just go boom boom if luke had a rocket launcher palpatine wouldnt stand a chance


...right. why dont you try taking up a rocket launcher and firing on a JAK-level guy with full force powers? :D forget JAK, any student with average force knowledge knows how to repel a rocket attack.

a blaster is civilized and a lightsaber isnt? I'd say something but all my points have been made for me.
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This comment was edited by Flamori Athena on Jun 07 2004 10:07am.

Jun 06 2004 06:10pm

KkF FREAKFISH
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feh lightsabers more elegant and it go9es up and down and side to side-guns just go boom boom if luke had a rocket launcher palpatine wouldnt stand a chance

Jun 03 2004 08:26pm

Irx
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Dusat is 100% right...IMHO :)
The lighsaber is an extremply civilized and elegant weapon.
First of all, the use of the weapon is of utmost important.The jedi use the saber in special ocasions.You don't see Yoda opening fishcans with the lightsaber, or Obi Wan making graffiti on the wall with the lightsaber(just Katarn :D).Further more, the weapon is used with high skill and finnesse.Just look at the Star Wars movies and JK Outcas and Academy.The jedi is like a samurai and a lighsaber is like a (dai)katana.The weilder and the weapon are one and they act like one.The saber is the jedi's mighty fist of justice not a simple weapon.
As said before me, the saber cauterizez.An important fact.In the first stage, the saber is used to deflect the attack, then to parry, thirdly to weaken/imobilize the oponent and in the first place, to kill/elliminate.Do you see episode 2 with a Vader shooting his son with a blaster rifle(the underneath Bespin scene).No!Vader cuts Luke's hand and than starts a small persuade dialog.Well, that's pretty civilized to me.
You see, you don't have to defuse a volatile situation by killing someone.As Katarn said in JK Academy, even the presence of the lightsaber is enough.So the lightsaber is also a symbol(well, dhaaaa).
I guess I don't even have to refer to the way a lighsaber is created or how cool it looks.
Bottom line, the lighsaber is much superior than a mere weapon.
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And talking about speed. I've read that blaster shots actually travel at light speed, the "shot" being a tail of sorts, that has no real connection with the damage the weapon does. Of course Jedi can predict where the shots are going to travel and intercept them anyway, but in lots of places in the movies you see that the shot does not hit at once, which should be the case.

???
I always believed that the trail was just the way a jedi sees the shot being fired...and that the normal person(non-jedi) can't see the trail


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Jun 03 2004 06:35am

Vasper Ba'xian
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"Elegant" and "Civilized" I find it to be more GRACEFUL that a blaster. It takes more skill. More art, more training.
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May 10 2004 09:50pm

Darth Bamse
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 Darth Bamse

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The lightsaber is to slaughter everyone in sight range :D

I beleve that would be called the darside ;P Or at least very close to the darkside. To like killing or figthing is a part of saber style VII (VAPAAD). Mace Windu and Darth Maul is using vapaad I beleve.

Well I think the saber would score highest here.
Blasters arn't actualy the weapon of your dreams (at least not my dreams). I would rather have a AK or Colt than some of those blasters from SW.
(With a AK jedis cant reflect your bullets either ;)).
But lightsaber is my weapon of choice :D




About the projectile weapons: Of course the Jedi can deflect them too, it just requires extreme skill cuz of the speed the damn things move at.

And talking about speed. I've read that blaster shots actually travel at light speed, the "shot" being a tail of sorts, that has no real connection with the damage the weapon does. Of course Jedi can predict where the shots are going to travel and intercept them anyway, but in lots of places in the movies you see that the shot does not hit at once, which should be the case.
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May 10 2004 07:31pm

Padawan
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the Samurai couldnt believe that someone would kill someone without putting themselves in danger - and i can understand that.


And Lucas did base or get the idea for Jedi from the Samurai.

Heh, I had a book about behind the scenes Star Wars a while back, but I can't find it now. I definately remember reading that though.

May 10 2004 04:11pm

Mookie
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 Mookie

Like Ash said, the Lightsaber is a symbol of the Jedi Order. Obi-Wan was referring to the golden age of the Jedi. :)

May 10 2004 09:49am

Plo Koon
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 Plo Koon

the Samurai couldnt believe that someone would kill someone without putting themselves in danger - and i can understand that.
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May 05 2004 12:51pm

Majno
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 Majno

I say this, a sword makes you face your opponent, with a blaster you can kill anonymosly.
Like hiding in a bush and just sniper....nvm..lol...:D
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Apr 19 2004 03:45pm

Seth C. Belouve
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 Seth C. Belouve

If Obi wan was referring to the lightsaber, then I tend to believe when he called it elegant and civilized, it wasn't its effect on the human body he was talking about but the look, feel, and charizma of the saber...its a beautiful thing the hum, the light, the look of it cutting the air. And just think, your some trooper for the old republic and your pinned down with no way to escape except threw death from enemy fire when you suddenly see a blue or other light side oriented color lightsaber ignite in the battle....that would be a beautiful sight for me :D
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Apr 18 2004 04:56pm

Plo Koon
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 Plo Koon

just think of the repeater in JKO,its like a machine gun.
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Apr 18 2004 10:19am

Perry
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 Perry

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The lightsaber is to slaughter everyone in sight range :D

I beleve that would be called the darside ;P Or at least very close to the darkside. To like killing or figthing is a part of saber style VII (VAPAAD). Mace Windu and Darth Maul is using vapaad I beleve.

Well I think the saber would score highest here.
Blasters arn't actualy the weapon of your dreams (at least not my dreams). I would rather have a AK or Colt than some of those blasters from SW.
(With a AK jedis cant reflect your bullets either ;)).
But lightsaber is my weapon of choice :D
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Apr 18 2004 08:37am

_cmad_
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That's why Yoda shall never defeat Palpy :P :D The lightsaber is to slaughter everyone in sight range :D

Back to the topic:

Saber > blaster
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Apr 18 2004 02:52am

Plo Koon
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" a jedi's weapon is for defence,never for attack only when he needs to" - yoda
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Apr 18 2004 12:14am

Ash
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i think what obi meant by civilized age is that their was more order in the universe. in the golden age of the jedi there was peace and diplomacy. i think thats what he meant. also a jedi uses his lightsaber when absolutly neccesary.
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Apr 18 2004 12:00am

Ithrien Dusat
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yes, but a light saber cauterizes you. there really is no blood when you kill somebody with a lightsaber. and usually you dont use a lightsaber to just wound someone. When Jedi's pull their sabers they usually intend to kill whomever they are being forced to kill.
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Apr 17 2004 11:25pm

DJK
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 DJK

Yup, saber it is.:D

Apr 17 2004 07:33pm

JamesF1
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 JamesF1

Think about it.

It could take 4 or 5 shots with a blaster to kill someone. But one swing to a 'significant' part of the body (i.e. not limbs) will kill instantly :)
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