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important question: i was kinda set on the ASUS Radeon 9600 XT 128MB, but it looks like i could get a better performing card in the ATI 9800 Pro 128MB for maybe $10 more. anyone have any reasons why i shouldn't go with the 9800? backstory: don't read unless you're bored  i was just over at tom's hardware and saw that the Radeon 9800 Pro 128MB beats the 9600 XT 128MB in every gaming benchmark they have. and they seem to be available for the same price. now related to this is the manufacturer ATI makes them both for compareable prices, but ASUS only makes the 9800 Pro in a 256 MB. so how big of a difference does the manufacturer really make?_______________ this is the internet, be serious damn it! |
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JamesF1 - Student 
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Get lost you Soldat n00b  _______________ Website |
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Monteeeeeee - Nugget 
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lol 140fps on SP u 56k n00b  _______________ If you add me to MSN, tell me who you are
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JamesF1 - Student
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Care to better my 1280x1024 all on high with 140fps several new-ish games? Most games I can run on 1280x1024 and get 60+ fps though With all on high All down to that 9600 XT baby _______________ Website This comment was edited by JamesF1 on Jun 05 2004 09:10am. |
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wow impressive! hmmm...maybe monty just blinks a lot and doesn't notice the fact he's getting 12 fps?  j/k mate _______________ this is the internet, be serious damn it! |
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Monteeeeeee - Nugget 
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feh twats i run at 1280 x 960 in High everything u f00s _______________ If you add me to MSN, tell me who you are
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JamesF1 - Student 
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Over HALF the price? wow? And yes, at a full 320x200 resolution! w00t! Almost as good as my old 486 _______________ Website |
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everything on high at 480 pixels wide right? _______________ this is the internet, be serious damn it! |
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Monteeeeeee - Nugget
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yea but its like over half price lol _______________ If you add me to MSN, tell me who you are
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JamesF1 - Student
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Yes, but its still nowhere near as good as the 9600 series or the 9800 series _______________ Website |
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Monteeeeeee - Nugget
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lol my gfx card will run farcry and ut2004 with everything on HIGH lol, remmeber u need a sw33t cpu aswell _______________ If you add me to MSN, tell me who you are
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JamesF1 - Student
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@3th: I didn't check the price - it's just usually cheaper than most other places @Monty: That's old dude _______________ Website |
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well i read some reviews where ppl said it was a HUGE improvement over their older 9200 cards, so i don't think i'll go that old. thanks though monty. i think an extra $80 is worth being able to play games like Far Cry and UT 2004 _______________ this is the internet, be serious damn it! |
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Monteeeeeee - Nugget
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u should get the ATI sapphire radeon 9200 256mb gfx card, i been using it for like 6 months now and its cool very cheap too i cost me like 50 quid hehe im in england dont waste too much money on a GFX card _______________ If you add me to MSN, tell me who you are
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Quote: If you can pay the postage, it should be cheaper from www.aria.co.uk thanks for the link, but it's $60 MORE than the one i posted  _______________ this is the internet, be serious damn it! |
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I wonder with the new PCI-Express bus, if all the new games everyone wants to play, like Doom 3. If any of use using AGP graphics will be able to play at a good resolution, with the highest quality graphics. Just something to think about if you plan on upgrading in the near future. PCI-Express is "supposidly" going to replace AGP. _______________ Silent Bob (Kevin Smith): You know, there's a million fine looking women in the world, dude. But they don't all bring you lasagna at work. Most of 'em just cheat on you. -Steve (Obi) |
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I use a 9700Pro and am most pleased.. the XT versions are kinda crappy, atleast they don't support the graphics engine used in the JK-series.. really buggy anyway.. PRO > XT imo.. but well.. it's your decision.. _______________ [ Honorable mentions: aph3x | Milamber | Bail Hope Belouve | Jaiko D'Kana | Rosered | JediEthic | Mike/JJ/TheKing | Kensei | Dane | Gradius | Thomas Skywalker | Pink Floyd | Setementor | Steinin | Odan-Wei ] [ Owner of: MetaDust's 500th comment! | Eica's 700th comment! | Pink Floyd's 666th, 999th, 1200th and 1337th comment! | DarkRyu's 400th comment! | Redeye's 1st comment! | Cow's 1111st comment! | Rufusan's 75th comment! | Wicek's 3300th and 3400th comment! | Dash Starlight's 2000th comment! | Piccolo's 3400th comment! | Takaru's 300th comment! | Senor Hat's 900th comment! | Rytandus' 4160th comment! | The first ever awarded, the original, the one and only, Catphin Award!!1 ] "Music expresses that which can not be put in to words but can not remain silent." |
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GHarris - Student 
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I'd recommend the 9800pro... and a 128mb version, at that. The price increases vastly for the 256mb model, and it's just not worth it.* A while ago, there were 64mb and 128mb versions of the geforce 3 (and also the geforce 4). The argument was that over time, when more demanding games came out, the 128mb versions would outperform the 64mb ones (and thus have a longer useful lifetime). Now that future has arrived, do the 64mb and 128mb versions perform any differently? Do they heck. The point here is that both cards will become obsolete at the same time, regardless of the amount of ram they have. *Unless you're planning on buying one of the 9800pros that can be softmodded to a 9800xt (but that's another story, and I'd assume you wouldn't be interested). _______________ Q: What do you call a man with bread and butter pudding on his head? A: Pudding Gentleman Type B! This comment was edited by GHarris on Jun 02 2004 09:58pm. |
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JamesF1 - Student
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If you can pay the postage, it should be cheaper from www.aria.co.uk _______________ Website |
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here's a link to the cheap Radeon 9800 pro: http://www.buyxtremegear.com/r9800pro128.html _______________ this is the internet, be serious damn it! |
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JamesF1 - Student
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I'd go with the 9800 Pro 128mb then, from all you've said in this thread. This is my third ATi card now, and I must say they're top-notch cards. BTW, the warranty won't be from ATi, it will be from the manufacturer of your card. In my case, this is 'PowerColor' _______________ Website |
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good point Koush, thanks _______________ this is the internet, be serious damn it! |
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koushka - Student 
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just to add something to make the decision more complicated: check out warranty issues with ati cards and the others, like what happens if it craps out on you or what not just to find what your getting into in case the worst happens I would get the best you can afford like doobs said. _______________ Faithful Padawan of {SKX}Dark Blade My profile pic is luke skywalker
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Quote: ...the 256mb offers very minimal performance gain over the 128mb version. i thought that was quite interesting too, as on some benchmarks you actually see the 128MB version slightly outperform the 256 _______________ this is the internet, be serious damn it! |
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Cyb - Student 
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If the difference is only $5 it seems like an easy choise between those two, being: take the 9800PRO. I myself would go for the 256Mb one, kinda for the same reasons as doobie. But don't do that if you are "only" going to get a 2600+ processor. If you're going for a 9800XT 256Mb you should just take a high and system for the other parts too, so get at least a 3000+. For a "mid-range" 2600+ processor a 9600XT 128 Mb video card looks like a good combi but once again if you can get the 9800PRO for only little more money I say take it ._______________ ~~ Love all, trust a few, do wrong to none! ~~ |
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JamesF1 - Student
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Quite true d00bs, but (and there's always a but), with the mid-range GFX cards, the RAM speed is not as high as the high-range GFX cards. Therefore, as the speed of the RAM is limited, the 256mb offers very minimal performance gain over the 128mb version. _______________ Website |
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