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skankerkid - Student  |
i ask you all, as a human, do we not all have freedome of opinion? man i love posting these kinda threads i hate politicians but i love politics well being in debate it kinda goes with the territory _______________ Shout out to DJ Sith cause he's my big bro. Shout out to Debbie because she's my sister in-law. Also it aint cool if aint skewed. |
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is questioning the rules and norms of society worng?
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Antares - Student 
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Because it was just a tiny comment which would make anyone go "duh", and nowhere near as elaborated and filled with examples as JavaGuy's. I am aware of the fact my opinion is just as valuable of anyone else's, but the comments that reflect this opinions are only worth the work I put into it. _______________ "only two things are infinite: Human stupidity and the universe. And i'm not sure about the latter" Albert Einstein Proud padawan to Obi-Wan Kenobi, Brother to Tido, Setementor, Jalune and Jana-Johauna |
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skankerkid - Student 
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why not 0.02? your opinion is worth much more than that _______________ Shout out to DJ Sith cause he's my big bro. Shout out to Debbie because she's my sister in-law. Also it aint cool if aint skewed. |
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Antares - Student
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In my opinion, questioning yourself, and others, as long as it is made in a way that respects everyone's opinion, is the first step to improve. Just my 0.01 $ _______________ "only two things are infinite: Human stupidity and the universe. And i'm not sure about the latter" Albert Einstein Proud padawan to Obi-Wan Kenobi, Brother to Tido, Setementor, Jalune and Jana-Johauna |
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n00b - Student 
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Quote: The Jamestown colony in Colonial America was a perfect example: Everybody there worked to grow food and put it into a common store, from which everyone was given his share to eat. Result: Mass starvation, just like under the Soviets. Then they brought in a new governor who instituted a new rule: Grow what you can, keep it for yourself or sell it as you please. Result: Famine ended. That's a very interesting thing you are saying there. I need to read some about that, nice post JG! _______________ Gone but hopefully not forgotten... |
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D'Loko - Ex-Student 
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If its not generally accepted to question norms and rules then you're living in a dictatorship. _______________ Owner of the Gradius Telegraphman Award |
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skankerkid - Student
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ya know, maybe i should've restated this because there still are societies today where a question is considered an intolerable act. Eventually such acts of inquisition will lead to revolutions (example: william the conquerer : American Revolutionary War : David Ben Gurion: Ghandi - etc.). _______________ Shout out to DJ Sith cause he's my big bro. Shout out to Debbie because she's my sister in-law. Also it aint cool if aint skewed. This comment was edited by skankerkid on Jul 16 2004 07:28am. |
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JavaGuy - Student 
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Questioning the norms, values and rules of a society is a must. It's how society improves. Remember, for example, slavery existed in all times and all places throughout almost all of human history. Then, a few centuries ago, it was outlawed, first in selected parts of the British Empire, then in all of it. Then they pressured their allies to outlaw slavery and even used their navy to blockade slaver ships, and so on... It started with the questioning of a norm that had been accepted as a given throughout all of history. I do not believe that all opinions are of equal value, or even of any value at all. Some people lack the knowledge and understanding to form good opinions, and all of us have only limited knowledge. You wouldn't want my opinion on brain surgery because I have no experience on which to base such an opinion. In our youth-worshipping society we've become obsessed with the idea that even small children have a lot to teach us, that they are little fonts of wisdom and should have a voice in every decision we make. Well sorry, but they are not little fonts of wisdom. I learn a lot from interacting with my children, but that's not the same thing as saying that they have a lot to teach me. I learn a lot riding my unicycle too, and it doesn't know anything either. So while questioning society's norms and rules is a must, a little humility is in order when doing it. Most of our wisdom was learned and earned through thousands of years of painful trial and error. It is reasonable to suppose that we can make some incremental improvement to how we think about things or how we do things, but it is hubris of the highest order to suppose, as many do, that we can throw it all away and build a utopia from scratch in a single generation. That's what the Communists supposed, and the Nazis. They thought to remake society from the ground up. The reason we study history is to see that almost every "new" idea is simply a rehash of a very old idea that has been tried repeatedly and found to be a stunning failure. Communism? Was tried long before there was any such word, long before Marx. The Jamestown colony in Colonial America was a perfect example: Everybody there worked to grow food and put it into a common store, from which everyone was given his share to eat. Result: Mass starvation, just like under the Soviets. Then they brought in a new governor who instituted a new rule: Grow what you can, keep it for yourself or sell it as you please. Result: Famine ended. By not knowing history, Marx was able to convince himself that he had come up with a new idea that could plausibly work. _______________ My signature is only one line. You're welcome. |
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xAnAtOs - Student |
It's true. Even the smallest of opinions hold value, the reason for which they are valued. And yes, we all do have a freedom of opinion. It's just sometimes our opinions are not heard, obscured, not tolerated, or are somehow seen as threatening. Guess that's just the way it goes, eh? _______________ Brother to Luke Skywalker and (SKX) Dark Blade 
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<Henkes> nebody feeling like abusing me with a lightsaber?|+Smilykrazy grabs Gradius, beats the living CRAP out of him, then throws him into a huge vat of ACID This comment was edited by xAnAtOs on Jul 09 2004 02:06pm. |
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skankerkid - Student 
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in my opinion even if a persons opinion is not highly valued it should be valued. _______________ Shout out to DJ Sith cause he's my big bro. Shout out to Debbie because she's my sister in-law. Also it aint cool if aint skewed. |
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