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I have this desktop background of a lightsabre, and I just realised that the blade doesn't have a shadow... I don't really know what to think of it so, discuss  . This post was edited by Padawan on Jul 11 2004 12:01am. |
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JavaGuy - Student 
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In the early Star Trek episodes, explosions in space were silent. Roddenberry insisted on it. Audiences didn't like it, so the network insisted on adding sound. In my opinion, eerily silent explosions in space, aside from being realistic, really add something. They convey that feeling of the awesomeness, vastness and utter emptiness of space. As for explosions and stuff in space, I chalk it up to poetic license on Lucas' part. I used to think, well, maybe what we're hearing is the sound of the ships and explosions as those on the ships would here them. After all, if a ships guns made sound, the people on the ship firing the gun would hear it. Same with the ship's engines. Okay, when a ship exploded the people on the ship would only be alive to hear the first nanosecond of the explosion, but the principle remains the same. But that whole theory fell apart when I noticed that you hear the Doppler effect as ships move on the screen. This is especially noticeable in the fight with the TIE fighters as the Falcon is escaping from the Death Star: As a TIE fighter is zooming towards you, its engine sounds grow higher in pitch, and then as it passes you and zooms away the sound drops to a lower pitch. So you're definitely not hearing the engine as it would sound to the pilot on board, but are actually hearing the sound in space. So I fall back on my poetic license rationalization.  _______________ My signature is only one line. You're welcome. |
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Ki-Aaron-Mundi - Student 
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Quote: umm I'm sure I'm gonna look like an idiot when I say this because I'm not quite sure about the last comment...but there is no sound in space. See, that's my point. There's no sound in space or fire in space... but in the Star Wars universe, there is. _______________ "I’m just a guy with a lightsaber and some questions." -Kyle Katarn |
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Seth C. Belouve - Student 
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umm I'm sure I'm gonna look like an idiot when I say this because I'm not quite sure about the last comment...but there is no sound in space. Ever watch the show "FireFly" they were scientifically correct because whenever there was a space scene...it would be muted. _______________ Look unto me for I possess the blue flag!! It is more beautiful then I ever imagined! You will now worship me as if I were a god! *smack, dies* I regret nothing, I lived as few men dared dream!! Red Guy from Red Vs. Blue Series |
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Ki-Aaron-Mundi - Student
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Quote: I mean, for all we know, the SW Universe could have a whole different law of physics to us. Well, we've got sound in space and fire in space, for starters... _______________ "I’m just a guy with a lightsaber and some questions." -Kyle Katarn This comment was edited by Ki-Aaron-Mundi on Oct 11 2004 06:15am. |
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Plo Koon - Student 
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ofcourse its a long time ago..... in a galaxy far away! people dont get that SW is different than us! lol! _______________ Free Tibet! Click this link,and learn Here too |
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Furi0us - Student 
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Ok, look. A lightsaber is, according to the Star Wars universe, 'pure energy'. Now, since there is no such thing as 'pure energy' in our world, we can never really know it's properties. Therefore, no one's answer is correct or incorrect.  I mean, for all we know, the SW Universe could have a whole different law of physics to us. </sarcasm>  _______________ You are not your f***ing system specs. You are not your uptime stats, your script file, or your oversized desktop screencap. You are not your broadband connection. You are not your f***ing post count. This comment was edited by Furi0us on Oct 10 2004 09:43am. |
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JavaGuy - Student
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"Pure energy" is a Star Trek concept and has no meaning in real physics. _______________ My signature is only one line. You're welcome. |
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Jippie Phoenix - Student 
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I suspect the lightsaber would cast a glow on the ground _______________ |
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Plo Koon - Student
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yeah but a lightsaber isnt a tube,its pure energy. _______________ Free Tibet! Click this link,and learn Here too |
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Ki-Aaron-Mundi - Student
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Here's what Pablo Hidalgo said in Star Wars Insider 72: Lightsabers, if they were real, would cast shadows. The blade of a lightsaber is opaque--you can't see through it. Therefore, light can't pass through it, and thus it would cast a shadow. You can see this for yourself by holding an illuminated florescent light tube. Sure, it's creating light, but if there's another light source in the room of sufficient strength, your shadow will show you holding that tube. _______________ "I’m just a guy with a lightsaber and some questions." -Kyle Katarn |
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Lithaerien - Student 
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Quote: how do you mean? does it create shadows?: well duh yes it has a light scource. I think he ment does the lightsaber itself have a shadow? don't think so because it is a lightsorce yes and the only shadow it casts would be the hilt only and the person holding it. _______________ "The Dark Side? I've been there... Do your worst!" ~Kyle Katarn "Don't force it" ~GeForce |
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Plo Koon - Student 
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how do you mean? does it create shadows?: well duh yes it has a light scource. _______________ Free Tibet! Click this link,and learn Here too |
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Flamori Athena - Student 
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what it come down to...is what the blade of a lightsaber is. if its pure energy, then what is pure energy, and what are its properties? if we had that answer...we could close topic on half the threads here. _______________ «±» 21st on the Midbie Council, Profile ID: 2027 «±» True wisdom is the knowledge that you know nothing. |
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3th - Retired 
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Quote: Yes the pen would. But we all agree that the light sabre hilt would produce a shadow being the souce of the light as the pen is. But not the blade of the sabre. In your pen example. WOuld the light given out by the pen (the light it self) cast a shadow ? There isnt acctualy anything inside the blade of the saber it is completly made up of light. it is hard to imagin as when we shine say a tourch, we cannot see the light comming out of the tourch (unless it is a very dusty room or somthing like that). We only see the tourch light as it reflects off surfaces. But in a lightsabre the Light itself is so focused and concentrated you can see it by itself to answer you're question, yes the light given out by the pen would cast shadows, assuming the surronding were fairly not bright. (boy i speak good english.) i.e. most sabers i wouldn't see as casting shadows in what we know as full daylight. to clarify what my point is...ok i have to admit i'm basing the fact it would have a shadow on the fact that when two sabers clash they DON'T go through each other and the fact that light sabers DEFLECT laser blasts and they cut through shit. light doesn't do any of that crap, no matter how concentrated it is. so it has to have some sort of mass. and that mass blocks light from passing through it....just like the sun would block a lazer beam from going through it. do ya get what i'm getting at yet? btw this isn't supposed to be aggressive or insensitive or anything that should offend anyone. so i hope this doesn't come off as such or directly as a retort to Squibit, it's just a response to everyone that things lightsabers are pure light. they aren't. so anyway yeah. um....yeah. hi there, why are you still reading this? hugs and kisses. smoochie smoochie.  _______________ this is the internet, be serious damn it! |
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Vasper Ba'xian - Student 
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Also, ANOTHER misconception about lightsabers. I'm reading the Young Jedi Knights Series atm (awsome set of books so far) It's believed by most that Jedi can only make their lightsaber out of rare crystal, found on few worlds. However, in YJK, luke tells them they can make a lightsaber with almost any gem. Example: Jacen: made his with a Corusca Gem from lando's gemdiver station. Jaina: made her gem herself in a furnace. Lowie: found his in the lower part of the academy. Tenel Ka: 1st used a crystal found at a volcano, however it had an impurity and fail during training, Jacen cut off her left arm when his blade went thru hers. She later used a gem from her tiara making her famous "Rancor Tooth Lightsaber" SO: any comments on this? _______________ Brother to: Tamal, Kavar, J.D.,Jermia, Devlin, Ulic, Xiabara, Seij,Tarron Mib,>>>ROCK ON .My Spacescapes art page.My Everything Else art page. MY FAV. Jedi Are: Qui-Gon Jinn, Corran Horn, and Anakin Solo. Unofficial Master to Tamal. and Kavar. Founder of the Wuji Hundun Jian saber style. Proud owner of Tamal's 200th comment!//Proud owner of Refl3x's 300th comment!>>>Proud owner of Tyrant's 800th comment>>>Proud owner of Lucky's 170th comment>>>Proud owner of BDKawika's 444th comment>>>To except Existance is to except Reality.
This comment was edited by Vasper Ba'xian on Sep 04 2004 07:34am. |
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Carve - Student 
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The thing is the light generated by the saber is brighter than the light of the room, isn't it? Thus, wouldn't it not cast a shadow? _______________ © |
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Squibit - Student 
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Yes the pen would. But we all agree that the light sabre hilt would produce a shadow being the souce of the light as the pen is. But not the blade of the sabre. In your pen example. WOuld the light given out by the pen (the light it self) cast a shadow ? There isnt acctualy anything inside the blade of the saber it is completly made up of light. it is hard to imagin as when we shine say a tourch, we cannot see the light comming out of the tourch (unless it is a very dusty room or somthing like that). We only see the tourch light as it reflects off surfaces. But in a lightsabre the Light itself is so focused and concentrated you can see it by itself _______________ Quote: fiZZe: its SIR Fizzy Fluffy :p Quote: FiZZ[JAK]: that was what I call a counter Ah, things you only ever expect to hear once
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3th - Retired
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ok think of it this way, if you have pen that glows and produces light, and you have it in a room that has a light source in it brighter than the pen, wouldn't the pen cast a shadow? make sense yet? _______________ this is the internet, be serious damn it! |
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Plo Koon - Student
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suns give of light so bright and hot that even if a bigger sun was behind it,it would only make it brighter _______________ Free Tibet! Click this link,and learn Here too |
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3th - Retired
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guys, just think about it for a moment. if you put a really big sun behind our sun do you think the light would pass through our sun like it wasn't there? think of lightsabers as mini sun sticks that might help you understand the concept a bit better. edit: although now that i think about it, the mini-sun is not the best analogy either, because the sabers have enough mass (or charge maybe) to deflect off of each other (and two suns wouldn't just bounce off each other if they collided, or maybe they would?!?!?). but for shadow causing purposes i suppose the analogy still works. _______________ this is the internet, be serious damn it! This comment was edited by 3th on Sep 01 2004 10:23pm. |
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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student 
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but that's because they used Bamboo sticks, or whatever, and later changed it to lightsabers with the computer the shadow just remained ... _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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Jawa Rikard Falk - Ex-Student 
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they maybe whould have light shadows well look at ep6 in the final duel there can u see a shadow of lukes saber _______________ bye all i had a great time here i will never forget it i really gonna miss u all |
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Anakin - Ex-Student 
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no shadow. _______________ ~jedi in the shadow~ |
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Rogue - Student 
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Vesper is right. I believe you would have shadows, but they are not black ones, colour of saber, go figure _______________ I was a child when I joined the JA...scary. |
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Vasper Ba'xian - Student
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Reality: Yes, since the blade of a Lightsaber is solid energy. Key word being "solid". If it were not solid energy then the blades would not lock. However, since the blade is light, then it would only cast a shadow if the light behind thenblade were brighter than the actual blade itself. But who cares, their still COOL! _______________ Brother to: Tamal, Kavar, J.D.,Jermia, Devlin, Ulic, Xiabara, Seij,Tarron Mib,>>>ROCK ON .My Spacescapes art page.My Everything Else art page. MY FAV. Jedi Are: Qui-Gon Jinn, Corran Horn, and Anakin Solo. Unofficial Master to Tamal. and Kavar. Founder of the Wuji Hundun Jian saber style. Proud owner of Tamal's 200th comment!//Proud owner of Refl3x's 300th comment!>>>Proud owner of Tyrant's 800th comment>>>Proud owner of Lucky's 170th comment>>>Proud owner of BDKawika's 444th comment>>>To except Existance is to except Reality.
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