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Jul 31 2004 06:41pm

Scythus Aratan
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Ok heres some tutorials and guides for you budding mappers skinner modelers and whatnot.

Mapping

Firstly go here to get the editor:
http://www.qeradiant.com/?data=files&files_dir=21

http://richdiesal.jedioutcastmaps.com/tutorials/
(Beginner to intermediate)

http://planetquake.com/bubba/mapping.html
Begginer and Intermdiate

http://www.massassi.net/tutorials.php
All kinds

http://planetquake.com/qworkshop3/tutorials/
Beginner --> Advanced

http://www.pcgamemods.com/5223/
All kinds
(Bunch of tuts in a zip)

http://www.jkmapping.com
Video Tutorials - Thanks to Xan.


Skinning

http://jediknight.filefront.com/file.stuff?body=CustomSkinningTutorial
How to edit skins and get them in game.

There are very few guides about how do skin well, just remember how it will wrap
on the model, and know how to
draw realistically with photoshop.

http://www.gamingforums.com/showthread.php?t=87386
Some help with the latter here.

Modeling

I'll split this up into several sections.

Player Modeling

You will need 3DS Max to do this,
which isnt cheap.

Get the JK3 editing tools:
http://jediknight.filefront.com/file.info?ID=18807

http://jediknight.filefront.com/file.info?ID=18604
Getting it to work.

To do this effectively you really need to know
how to model beforehand, and it's not easy. If
you want to start modeling and you havent done
it before, I advise you look at one of the
other sections.


Hilt Modeling

You will probably want milkshape for this.

http://www.massassi.com/coffeestain/03.html
How to get your saberhilt from milkshape to
JK2/3.

http://www.btinternet.com/~howe_alison/brothers/tutorial/gmax_jkii_tutorial.htm
An excellent hilt tutorial.

Again you will need to learn to model seperately.
Don't worry, i'll post some general milkshape or 3ds max tutorials at the end.

General Modeling Tutorials

Instead of posting a massive list i'll give you a link:
http://www.gamingforums.com/showthread.php?t=63469
about 20 milkshape tutorials there.

Also the official site's tutorials:
http://www.swissquake.ch/chumbalum-soft/ms3d/tutorials.html

3DS MAX tuorials:
http://www.3dcafe.com/asp/tut3ds.asp

and more:
http://www.3dbuzz.com/

Miscellaneous

http://www.gamingforums.com/showthread.php?t=123422
Menu scripts

http://www.gamingforums.com/showthread.php?t=109799
NPC's. Just scroll down and read the thread, all the info is there, if not completely clear.




There.

Thanks for reading this, hope you find it useful.

Scythus -

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Oct 20 2004 03:17am

tarpman
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No, 3DS Max does NOT do maps for JK2/3. The map editor is GTKRadiant. 3DS Max only does visual aspects of things, whereas Radiant also includes things like script triggers and spawn points, and automatically compiles your map into the BSP format. Complex map features like irregular terrain can be done with plugins for Radiant. An example is one that imports a grayscale heightmap and turns it into a terrain brush.
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Oct 07 2004 08:00pm

Setementor
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 Setementor

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Is it possible to do maps with 3ds max or only modles?


If you look below, you may see that I just answered that question to someone else. :)

Oct 07 2004 05:01pm

Lithaerien
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 Lithaerien

Ok, thanks:D

Amazing how fast you can get answers ;)
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Oct 07 2004 04:50pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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 Bail Hope of Belouve

only models I believe
but I could be wrong

Anyway, I use GtkRadiant for mapping... always did, so don't know about anything else for sure :P
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Oct 07 2004 04:28pm

Lithaerien
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 Lithaerien

Is it possible to do maps with 3ds max or only modles?
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Oct 06 2004 01:12am

Setementor
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GTKRadiant has bugs too. If it doesn't work, don't worry, just reinstall. ;)

Yes, I know this may already be above, but you can download radiant here. Just select a mirror. :)

Anyway, as I was going to say, you can make a map in a model, but I dunno how good it would be. Basically, you make the model, get somebody else to add it to a new map, then pack it up. Again, I'm not too sure of how it would look - You wouldn't be able to use map functions, unless the mapper added those too. However, I strongly suggest that you stick with radiant.

Oct 05 2004 11:21pm

Scythus Aratan
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 Scythus Aratan

Radiant is for mapping, Max is for modeling.
And you want GTKRadiant not QERadiant.
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Oct 05 2004 11:10pm

Vaughn
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 Vaughn

Question: I have 3DS MAX 5... and last time i tried, qtradient didnt work on my computer. would i still be able to use the tutorials and sorta, transpose them into max, or is there a tutorial for doing that.. or should i just stop whining and try again with the radient?
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Oct 01 2004 08:59am

Smilykrazy
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 Smilykrazy

sweeet!!!! :D
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Oct 01 2004 01:59am

Garos
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 Garos

Now that's a good list if I do say so myself

Sep 30 2004 10:33pm

Setementor
 - Jedi Master
 Setementor

Yeah, there is an error when you open Radiant. It asks for a missing file sometimes. :(

Sep 30 2004 09:21pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
 - Student
 Bail Hope of Belouve

ok, so you can't install?

In that case, be sure that you've given all the correct maps, when he asked for the JK3 map, give him the correct folder (which is your base folder) and so on for every game he asks for

Also, make sure you have downloaded the right version :)
the 1-4.0 for Windows, I take it?
http://www.qeradiant.com/?data=files&files_id=77
That's the correct link to download from.
I personally took the second download link

also, try rebooting your pc, you know, the regular stuff ...
if not, post again with the problems carefully explained, and I'll try to help again
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Sep 30 2004 09:07pm

Scythus Aratan
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 Scythus Aratan

Redownload?
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Sep 30 2004 08:57pm

Plo Koon
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 Plo Koon

hmm GtKRadiant Setup1-4.0 has an install error after you pick where to put the file,any ideas or hints?
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Sep 30 2004 08:36pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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 Bail Hope of Belouve

most of the stuff will :)

some things have changed though, but I'm writing a full guide to the latest stuff, and I'm hoping to put it up somewhere when it's finished :)
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Sep 30 2004 08:33pm

Plo Koon
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 Plo Koon

If GTKradiant is the newest then why do all the links for jedi knight games use JK2 radiant?,will it still work the same?
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Sep 30 2004 06:32pm

Scythus Aratan
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 Scythus Aratan

It cant be used for Player Models as you cant weight the model to the skeleton in GMax. I'm not sure about hilts and map models.
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Claimer of the 5000th post in the Count thread [Solitude] scy rocks [Casual] good point scythus, you're really smart


Sep 30 2004 06:31pm

Steinin
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 Steinin

Gmax can be used instead of 3DMax and it is free.
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Sep 30 2004 04:52pm

Scythus Aratan
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 Scythus Aratan

Ah they moved it :P.
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Claimer of the 5000th post in the Count thread [Solitude] scy rocks [Casual] good point scythus, you're really smart


Sep 30 2004 02:45pm

Selph Senatu
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 Selph Senatu

Nice man, I'll hopefully get into it when I finish all the sp games I have here :P

Sep 30 2004 02:44pm

xAnAtOs
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6th comment EVER in this forum goes to xAn.

>.>
<.<

:D
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Sep 30 2004 02:42pm

D@mned ++
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 D@mned ++

gj Scy, let the modding commence :D
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Aug 12 2004 06:51am

Iceman - away-
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When I try to make textures, I only get a text where it says shader not found

Aug 04 2004 08:49am

Acey Spadey
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 Acey Spadey

great work scythus.. keep up the good work


*makes Scythus un-official jasp receptionist*
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Jul 31 2004 09:03pm

Mreoton
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<Setementor> Scythus is a genius!


So...much....modding to do..

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