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It's just a game... -Silent Whisper - May 30 09:20am |
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I was doing some reading on the Star Wars: Galaxies forums and ran across an interesting topic. It had a link to the story of Shawn Woolley, who took his life after being PK'd in Everquest. I'm saying this because it's a little after a year since his death and we need to remind ourselves that this is just a game. If you find yourself getting too involved push your chair back, go outside, breathe some air, and say "It's just a game." You can read Woolley's story here: http://www.jsonline.com/news/state/mar02/31536.asp?format=print |
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Icco - Student 
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... its just not funny... _______________ "this is Icco. Icco is old. Icco is lost. Icco is cool, but Icco doesn't know what the meaning of 'macrophageal sex'." - Vaughn /Icco |
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Lian Del Rey - Student 
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Lucky Dark Age of Camelot doesn't allow PKs. _______________ slorp |
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Phantom - Student 
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OMG Wispy your so right god _______________ -Phantom Ex-Master to Threat. Proud owner of Sazabi's 1500th comment! And Threats 50th comment "Insanity: a perfect rational adjustment to an insane world" |
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Halendor - Ex-Student 
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Do you 'respawn' after a PK? |
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Ash - Eats Babies 
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a PK is a player kill. that means someone else in the game (not an Non Playable Charecter) came up and killed his charecter. _______________ "We keep odd hours...." ----------------------- They Live, We Sleep |
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Ulic Belouve - Student 
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I'll weigh in only briefly. I've recently been in discussions over the freedoms of people, more specifically, over an issue that would allow normal people to get their toungues split (not pierced, SPLIT), by normal people. So one needs to ask, when is it time for some agency to step in and intervene in the freedoms of the individual. One could make the argument that everyone is smart enough to make their own choices, but you also have all the tobacco company settlements, where people argue that "someone should have told me cigarrettes were addictive." So this is sad, unfortunate, etc. I'm in Milwaukee, and have lived in the area nearly all my life, so I heard of this. I also don't think it's that far fetched. When I started out at the JA, I remember once where I had some lamer completely go off on me. At the time, I was undergoing medical treatment for a stress-related illness (like ulcers), so I got worked up, and was in some form of pain. And so I just let the Council know, etc. And then I stopped taking it so seriously. But just think that it's not really a "he was messed up" scenario. I know that many people can get very worked up over video games, as I did that one time. So I thank the courtesy of the Council to keep us in mind, and I do also ask people to take this seriously. You never know if someone is taking it way to seriously. And I have no idea what a PK is, so if someone an help me out, that'd be great. I'm also probably not going to play Galaxies. I can see myself getting really wrapped up in that, so I'll avoid it. _______________ Jedi do not fight for peace. That's only a slogan, and is as misleading as slogans always are. Jedi fight for civilization, because only civilization creates peace. |
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Plo Koon - Student 
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Well lianiotte i Think you know the difference between Reality and Fake,lets hope we all do. BTW i play everquest and i really enjoy it,doesnt mean im going to kill myself when something i dont like happens and if the mother knew he had seizures before hand why did she let him keep on playing... thats just wrong. May the Force be with them. _______________ Free Tibet! Click this link,and learn Here too This comment was edited by Plo Koon on May 30 2003 07:51pm. |
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..PJ.. - Student 
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Jeez............Can you believe it? You know, I don't think the lesson here is about playing too many videogames on the net, but I think the lesson is that if you play MMORPG's, or go on the Academy often, you should really let people know the situation you are in. if games are your lifeline, like the guy who killed himself, then let people know dammit!! If people can't help face-to-face, tell the people you talk to most! In the Academy, we all have regular friends, so if YOU are in the same situation, tell us! WE ARE ALL HUMAN, AND WE ALL HAVE A SIDE OF US WHICH WANTS TO HELP YOU, SO IF YOU ARE IN A BAD SITUATION, TALK TO SOMEONE ABOUT IT, OR POST IT ON THE FORUMS. THAT WAY, YOU WILL KNOW THAT PEOPLE WANNA HELP AND BE YOUR FRIENDS!! _______________ JK2 pwnz0rs JK3. |
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Halendor - Ex-Student 
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People kill themselves all the time because they live in misery, this was the first (media-hyped) suicide that involved a game-addiction. What a shame. The lawsuit on Sony is because they want warning labels on addictive games ("Warning, extensive playing could be hazardous to your health"  , which I think is a good initiave, as long as they don't put any (more) age restrictions on it :pBy the way, what's a PK  |
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Monteeeeeee - Nugget 
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maybe he was a test subject for a secret weapon, BRAINWASHING via VIDEOGAMES! w0000000t and he liked figured it out and had a fight with his head and well the gun went off and damn it got him! this is really unlikely but could be very true!!!! < hides underbed, i think my computer is watching me!!! And on a more serious note, yep the guy was nuts and needed help unforunatly not that kind of help so sad............. remember get off the computer at all times! excpet for when playing JK2  _______________ If you add me to MSN, tell me who you are 
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DoriaN - Ex-Student 
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Frankly you have to be mental to do something like that, it doesn't just develop the guy was obviously nuts and it was just a matter of time. _______________ JiM |
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Sniya - Student 
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God. there was an article about how emmersive games are-eg gamers who play games for long periods will still look out for snipers for 15min after stopping playing _______________ The real question is not whether machines think but whether men do. Bertrand Russell http://www.thejediacademy.net/forums_detail_page.php?f_id=970 |
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Doppelgänger - Student 
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I think you're right about the mother Ash but I think it's important to recognize these traits in people and try to help. We all know the signs of suicide and even though we don't like it when someone threatens it the first step to killing yourself is to threaten suicide. I don't think we have student's that involved in the game here but I think we should be cautious and watch our friends and take serious issues like suicide serious. _______________ "Look not back in anger, nor forward in fear But around you in awareness." Ross Hersey |
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Fate, u read that article too? hehe. anyways this is the first time i heard of that and well.... thank god i dont like MMORPGs otherwise id prolly be like that dude.... |
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DoriaN - Ex-Student
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That guy must be real fruit cake. _______________ JiM |
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Fate - Student 
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People are so #$#$^ed up. In the way of the warning label for Sony to put on the game, what would it say? "Warning: This game is so much fun and so damn cool that you just might kill yourself." or mabye "Warning: Excessive time spent on computers has been linked to improved reaction time, improved logic skills, pale skin, lack of social skills and in some cases death." _______________ I must not fear . Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear . I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain. Gom gom gom gom gom! |
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Lian Del Rey - Student 
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Yes, I've read this story already. That's why I rejected Plo Koon's suggestion of playing Everquest. _______________ slorp This comment was edited by Lian Del Rey on May 30 2003 03:03pm. |
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Huxley - Retired 
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This is a sad reminder of how much video games can lock us into an un-escapable reality. There is a whole universe, more exciting and fun than any video game out there. Make sure you unplug sometimes and check it out. Its pretty amazing, but like any game, its challenging and scary. Life is its own adventure and game, don't forget to play it sometime too. -Huxley |
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Nightcrawl2r - Ex-Student 
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I'm really overpowered by this story, though i had already heard things like that, it's so sad... I regret that it was too late to rescue Shawn from that fate, may he rest with the Mother... _______________ Lineage: son of Mystique, father of Nocturne. This comment was edited by Nightcrawl2r on May 30 2003 01:06pm. |
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Cloaked Thunder - Student 
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Wow. Just read the article......Some people.....just freakin WOW! Man u still gotta remember, there is a real world out there and u gotta separate reality and a game. _______________ Padawan of ShadowSith | Close JA Family: Darth Mobility, Katan, Jedi Prodigy, Virtue,D@rth M@ul, Virtue, Flash, Bandit, Yin Yang, JK-XIII, Faded, Silk Monkey, Skyler, `Orion, Aratan, SmilyKrazy, Faded Angel, and your mom | woot!
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Iori Yagami - Student 
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just read the article. it says the lawyer wants to sue sony, and get them to put a warning label on the boxes for everquest... but surely that will just make more people interested.., and wanting to buy it??? d'oh!!! _______________ May the ping be with you |
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Lord Exar Kun - Student 
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nothing to say......killing yourself over a game is so stupid... _______________ -Retired april the 19th 2004 |
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Ash - Eats Babies
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its kind of ironic that your bringing this story up. im actually doing a thesis paper on video game addiction in my englich class right now. i have yet to read that article since the link doesnt work, but i remember reading about this story. from what i remember, the guy didnt kill himself because of a PK. it was a number of factors. he was unemployed, literally lived in his own filth, and i also heard that his online GF in everquest dumped him. all of those factors are high canidates for reason why some might commit suicide. so yeah, he might have killed himself because of a PK but that might have been the one thing that drove him over the edge to take his own life. but whispy is right. the real leason learned here is to realize its all just a game and to go out enjoy our lives sometime. oh yeah, i also think that it is completly ridiculous that the mother is suing sony. the guy was an adult and should be responsible for himself. she is just using sony as a scapegoat becuase she wasnt able to help in time. but thats just my opinion. whew, i ramble alot at night. .....jeehuzafut.... _______________ "We keep odd hours...." ----------------------- They Live, We Sleep |
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Aron - Retired 
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3 words: Oh my god ... |
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Rampage - Student 
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omg, a guy killed himself cuz of everquest?!?? ugh This comment was edited by Rampage on May 30 2003 09:34am. |
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