Taking a break -doobie - May 31 06:19pm | |
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Just wanted to let everyone know, I'm taking a break from the Academy. I'm extremely tired of all the politics all the people who make threats because of other people, all the people who don't appreciate what we do and instead get caught up in petty little crap. And no, this isn't because of one isolated instance, it's been building up for a long time. Maybe my absence will help all of you doing these things to realize THIS IS A FREAKING GAME, AND A FREAKING WEBSITE FOR A GAME. WE'RE HERE TO LEARN AND HAVE FUN, NOT GET CAUGHT UP IN PETTY TITLES, RANKS, AND ARGUMENTS!!! I'll probably be back at some point, but until then, I'm spreading "leadership" around the remaining council members, and I have faith that they'll be able to keep things running smoothly. -update from a slightly less PO'd DJ - Politics are unavoidable when you have a tiered management system like we have here (knights, trainers, council, staff). I know it's going to happen, but please try to keep that kind of stuff to a bare minimum. Remember we're all here to play games and have fun. Enjoy your break, boss. Go bowling alot! |
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HiroYuki - Student |
Take care Chief and Rest well _______________ Proud Brother to Motrec & Monkaiman & Zeke Azakura & Lezlo Skywalker & CharmedOne my Wise Advisor Meklon M'ren Friend to Thom Skywalker, Ashyra, Kenny Jowol, Wicek , Saz ShadowSith & Katans & Nitram & Dark Angel M'ren Old Padawan and my wise Mentor JaikoD'Kana Quote: What is Strenght Without Speed
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KkF FREAKFISH - Ex-Student |
Quote: doobie- Understood and noted. You deserve better, and we should certainly better appreciate what you've monumentally helped create. wow thats a lotta good stuff i aggree maybe there should be a jedi police force But, unfortunately, even in the best of circumstances the "politics monster" will rear its ugly head. I purposely stay out of the forums dedicated to the upper eschelon (although I have web rights to it as Staff...my recent inactivity not withstanding); hence, I have kept away from the politics, and (purposely) don't have full knowledge of what is going on. However, based on my past experience I don't doubt what you say is true. Example: a group I used to belong to saved cats and dogs from being put to sleep. What a nice little group! Trying to save animals from being killed! Fuzzy kitties...furry dogs...and the WORST bunch of political infighting and backstabbing that I have EVER experienced in my life. The yelling and screaming at the monthly meetings was intolerable, and I could only shake my head at how ridiculous it all was. I quit and never looked back. (I don't necessarily recommend this choice to you, however.) So...if it can happen to a bunch of people who loved cute little animals (but hated each other, apparently), it can certainly happen here at the JA. No matter HOW well you/we try to run it. Unfortunately. The only thing we can do is try to reduce it. How? As I have little knowledge of the problems, I have no current proposals for reform. But, I would be more than willing to participate in some sort of "working group" with the intention of examining the current state of the Academy, and propose ideas (if necessary) on improvement. Let me know what you think. -rh |
Tido - Student |
Take care bud, you deserve a break. We'll see ya when you get back. |
Ruuk Haviser - Retired |
doobie- Understood and noted. You deserve better, and we should certainly better appreciate what you've monumentally helped create. But, unfortunately, even in the best of circumstances the "politics monster" will rear its ugly head. I purposely stay out of the forums dedicated to the upper eschelon (although I have web rights to it as Staff...my recent inactivity not withstanding); hence, I have kept away from the politics, and (purposely) don't have full knowledge of what is going on. However, based on my past experience I don't doubt what you say is true. Example: a group I used to belong to saved cats and dogs from being put to sleep. What a nice little group! Trying to save animals from being killed! Fuzzy kitties...furry dogs...and the WORST bunch of political infighting and backstabbing that I have EVER experienced in my life. The yelling and screaming at the monthly meetings was intolerable, and I could only shake my head at how ridiculous it all was. I quit and never looked back. (I don't necessarily recommend this choice to you, however.) So...if it can happen to a bunch of people who loved cute little animals (but hated each other, apparently), it can certainly happen here at the JA. No matter HOW well you/we try to run it. Unfortunately. The only thing we can do is try to reduce it. How? As I have little knowledge of the problems, I have no current proposals for reform. But, I would be more than willing to participate in some sort of "working group" with the intention of examining the current state of the Academy, and propose ideas (if necessary) on improvement. Let me know what you think. -rh _______________ Back from the dead... |
SaberWeildinKow - Student |
I hear ya (as much as I can comprehend) and apologize for anything that I may have ever involved myself with to undermine the good intentions of the academy. /salute /bow |
Ulic Belouve - Student |
My deepest apologies to you and any other of the higher-ups, as I know I have caused issues on a large scale at times (I seem to recall a nasty one about a year ago this time). So I've added to it, and don't tell me that I'm wrong. But I apologize freely without any true prompting. Do take care and come back renewed, I have some "Academy Business" I would like to discuss with you (but only you, 'cuz your da bomb. Maybe DJ Sith too, but, yeah.) _______________ Jedi do not fight for peace. That's only a slogan, and is as misleading as slogans always are. Jedi fight for civilization, because only civilization creates peace. |
D@RtHM@UL - Student |
Enjoy your time away from this place Doobie, you deserve it |
Wolfwood - Student |
Have fun Boss, we''ll keep this place running for you _______________ ~ Honor is a fool's prize. Glory is of no use to the dead ~ |
Daidalus[JAP] Fisto - Student |
hey, doobie! i whish you good recreation fo everything. it maight be sounds strange frome someone who swiched the light on, but now i have an idea how you are feeling. have a nice vacation, you deserve it and thx for your good job, the academy wont be the same if ppl whould run it who dont love it. thats a very important part of a leadership, and you love it you showed it so often. without love, this place would have turned into a monkey-circus quite fast. Thx to everyone who loves the academy. greetings, daid _______________ Founder of the Fisto Family -|- Member of the mighty FiZZsters!! -|- Owner of the second Bail prize for "BAIL RULES!!" -|- I'll never forget you Jaina! -|- Owner of the one and only autograph of Smily -|- SMILY RULES -|- Owner of the 1000th Comment of the great Kueller -|- Big brother to NarCosT Fisto, and ShadowFax . -|- Proud Padawan of Kueller -|- Sir Daidalus Fisto. Official Historian of Nippledom and server to Menaxia, Queen of Nippledom Quote: fiZZe: "gdamubububugmgmgububugrrrrrdsa?"
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FaDed - Student |
don't count on it. i'm still here for a bit. |
Orion - Retired |
OH and on a lighter note!! w00t!!! MY SHINS GET A REST FROM BEING KICKED!!!!!! w00t!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! _______________ When a Man lies he murder's some part of the world. These are the pale deaths which men misscall there lives. All this I cannot bear to witness any longer. Cannot the kingdom of salvation take me home? -Cliff Burton Owner of Smily's 1900th comment | <Lady_Catherine> i love your sexy white socks! | (Lady_Catherine) i adore u! | (Lady_Catherine) onion (Lady_Catherine) i lub u |
pr0!d'kana - Ex-Student |
i think alot of people arepointing fingers at the JAC's for not distributing power fairly enough..but its not that easy you know? im not saying that their saints either..every1 has their flaws but if anything they do deserve the credit for what theyve achieved here. This comment was edited by pr0!d'kana on Jun 01 2004 06:44am. |
doobie - Jedi Council |
apology accepted and returned DM... my reaction was too harsh and uncalled for. Anyway, see you guys when I see ya _______________ -Academy Leader/Dictator/Defeater of DJ Sith and JACen Solo in the JAK+ Tournament -I do think it (the JA) will help convert dozens, maybe hundreds, to the dork nation... --me |
pr0!d'kana - Ex-Student |
yawp i agree. i think most ppl are getting caught up in issues that are really insignificant at this point. it really is JUST a game. my opinion isnt of much value cause im not really active, but im pretty sick of all the politics and demand for power This comment was edited by pr0!d'kana on Jun 01 2004 06:31am. |
DaRtH-MoBiLiTy - Student |
Dually noted, massadoobie. And I only have one more comment to, "Clear Up" what you have made my post into. Everyone needs a break, granted. You probably deserve one more than anyone as many of us have posted in this thread. If you had merely made a post saying, "Hey, I just finished school. I am a little tired and need a break", That would have been entirely understandable. The Error that I feel you have made was creating the sense of urgency and blaming your leave on "US, your JA". Describing how the politics is too much and you can't handle it anymore right now. Like your guilting us like a mother fed up with her kid's rebellion. "I'm extremely tired of all the politics all the people who make threats because of other people, all the people who don't appreciate what we do and instead get caught up in petty little crap." Perhaps you should follow your own advise. Sounds like your the one focusing on all the "Petty Little Crap". Forgeting all the good that is here and "appreciate what we do". See what I'm saying? Anyways, take your leave....LIVE IT UP, CONGRATS ON SCHOOL, bro. We will all undoubtedly be here when you get back. And, I will apologize for the harshness I started out with man, it just blew my mind. -DM- _______________ One Day, it will all end. |
AngelD'Kana - Ex-Student |
I think we are all responsible a little for this vacation, there is no denying it is well deserved, take your break and when you come back we will work hard to make this a tolerable environment for you once again doobie _______________ SMILY RULES ALL AND SHE CANT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT Quote: Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone you may still exist, but you have ceased to live. - Mark Twain <Jedi_Prodigy> BOOOO angel! SEE SMILY? JP EVEN THINKS IM RIGHT I WIN 12:15:30(AM)] * DJ_Sith gives Jacen_Solo a golden shower }{ [01:33:00(AM)] * DJ_Sith give `orion a wonderful golden shower! }{ [01:35:41(AM)] * DJ_Sith gives doobie|broke a wonderful golden shower! |
Orion - Retired |
If anyone in the JA deserves a break, vacation, its doobie and DJ, these two have been going at it here for a hell of a long time. Two years of work with out a vacation? Most would go insane and go on a rampage or something You and DJ busted ur ass to get the JA going and thriving and you deserve a vacation doobie you rule and i quote the footer of every page on this site Quote: Questions? Comments? Snide Remarks? Email one of us. _______________ When a Man lies he murder's some part of the world. These are the pale deaths which men misscall there lives. All this I cannot bear to witness any longer. Cannot the kingdom of salvation take me home? -Cliff Burton Owner of Smily's 1900th comment | <Lady_Catherine> i love your sexy white socks! | (Lady_Catherine) i adore u! | (Lady_Catherine) onion (Lady_Catherine) i lub u This comment was edited by Orion on Jun 01 2004 03:59am. |
doobie - Jedi Council |
DM, I'll say one last thing. If you think this place is going down hill so bad, then either do something positive or leave. Your negativity just brings us down. I'm not leaving, just taking a break. A break... vacation... sabbatical... whatever you want to call it. If i were leaving, and truly didn't care what happened to this place, I would've left a long time ago _______________ -Academy Leader/Dictator/Defeater of DJ Sith and JACen Solo in the JAK+ Tournament -I do think it (the JA) will help convert dozens, maybe hundreds, to the dork nation... --me |
Bandit - Student |
First, let me say that I wouldn't take Doobie's job (or any JAC, JAT or JAK) without someone paying me. Why put up with the headache for something you receive precious little recognition for? Yes, this is a game and a website for a game. That doesn't mean it is unimportant, it means that the events here should be put in PERSPECTIVE. The focus should be on FUN and learning (to enhance the fun of those playing). The political power plays being made by some simply astound me. Perhaps it's because I'm old and work for a living and look to this as recreation and not a source of self-esteem or personal validation. I mean, damn, I'm looking for less stress in my life outside of work, not more. I admire the fact that Doobie volunteers his time to help run this site for the benefit of those that want to play a game and have fun. Why he wants the hassle is beyond me. To call him a coward for wanting to take a break from the game is simply a failure to understand the situation. Doobie has nothing to fear. He controls the JA and makes the decisions, so everyone can talk until they're blue in the face and it won't matter. He's simply decided he doesn't care to read anymore of the posts that show a total disregard for his efforts. Nothing worse than working for free for a bunch of ingrates. Personally, I'd tell everyone to go jump off a bridge. Guess that's why I don't have my own JA website. _______________ Part-Time Player (Weekend Warrior). Recipient of the prestigious "Longest-Post-Ever Award" (bestowed on me by Flash on March 23rd, 2004) This comment was edited by Bandit on Jun 01 2004 06:08am. |
DaRtH-MoBiLiTy - Student |
Whatever man. VIDEO GAME And I mean no disrespect to any JAC's or to You for that matter. Just calling it like I see it. This place has been going down hill for a while now. I feel this is the Nail in the coffin. Get with the program man. You love and care for this place so much? Then change it. Dont like seeing your, "Friends" squabble? Then tell them to do or die. How can you LEAVING make people focus on something Positive, rofl... It really does not matter what I do and do not know about how hard and rough you have it. What I do know is, this place is turning into shit and you walking away right now is not gonna help it. -DM- _______________ One Day, it will all end. This comment was edited by DaRtH-MoBiLiTy on Jun 01 2004 03:02am. |
doobie - Jedi Council |
DM, you post was extremely unnecessary in tis approach. I"m not "turning tail", i'm simply taking what I believe is a well deserved break to get away from the politics. And to be honest, I try not to pay attention to it as much as possible, but I'm simply trying to get away from HEARING about it. It hurts to hear people I like and respect lowering themselves to petty squabbling, and at this point the only thing I feel I can do is to get away from it all and maybe force people to focus on something more positive. People don't realize what it's like for someone in my position to deal with everything i have to deal with, and maybe you should think about that before making such a accusatory post. I don't think your post does anything beyond try to indirectly cut down the other JACs... no matter what your intention was by calling me out like this, it has turned into a negative. I don't really know where this animosity and anger came from, but it's extremely disrespectful and rude and really unnecessary. Try spending the last 2 years of your life watching something that you love turn into something that people just sit there and f***ing turn into a reason to bitch and moan instead of appreciating the positives. Next time, try and think about what you're saying and realize that you might not know everything like you obviously think you do before making a post that serves simply to make me realize how correct my decision to take some time off truly is. _______________ -Academy Leader/Dictator/Defeater of DJ Sith and JACen Solo in the JAK+ Tournament -I do think it (the JA) will help convert dozens, maybe hundreds, to the dork nation... --me This comment was edited by doobie on Jun 01 2004 02:47am. |
DaRtH-MoBiLiTy - Student |
Alright Doobie, I find it hilarious your turning tail and running away right now. Your right this is a "Freaking Game" and a "Freaking Game Community". So how is it that YOU could possibly take all the "POLITICS" seriously. This is not REAL Politics. These are the rants and raves of a bunch of people with nothing better to do. This is not LIFE and DEATH here man. Get over it. If the "Politics and Drama" here at JA are your biggest problems, then brotha, you dont have problems. Here is an idea. Work to make things better. Nix all the POLITICS and DRAMA right off the bat. You dont like what people do and say? Then make a new law that states if you want DRAMA, find it elsewhere. And Enforce it. But to turn tail and run? This is our Fearless Leader? Sorry man, but I dont support it. You got issues? FIX IT THEN. Like it would be that hard.... No, I think this is about something else, and if it is not....then like I said before, YOU DONT HAVE PROBLEMS. Hope you come back and turn this place around, because if you don't then NO ONE will, except Virtue. He definitley has the potential to be a greater leader than anyone else here. Get in there and come out swingin' doob. Thats My Two Cents.... -DM- _______________ One Day, it will all end. |
Hardwired - Retired |
I think all JAK+ can relate in some what. I sure as hell know I can. Guess im just too stupid to take a break... Anyways...Have a good time off. And we will see you when you feel up to it... /me salutes El Doobie _______________ ::Nothing wrong with a little shooting.....as long as the right people get shot:: |
tarpman - The Tarped Avenger |
Maybe I just don't spend enough time around, but I haven't noticed much in the way of politics. Some very worthwhile people are being promoted to positions they deserve and there's always going to be a bit of confusion among the newcomers as to exactly what the ranks mean, but that's all I've noticed. Have fun, d00bs, and I hope by the time you get back it's all cleared up enough that my failure to be observant won't have mattered. _______________ Saving the world, one kilobyte at a time. |
Jade - Student |
I feel responsible as should we all. This is just a game, and I love it. But it is sad that we have driven you to this...so I want to start with an appology...too much sillyness for the sake of it. A family without the head is like a house without a roof (in this case half a roof since we still have DJ)....well it's going to be cold without you...hope you find some quality time while you're away...look forward to seeing you when you're back _______________ "You don't know the power of the dark side....Buurrp!" This comment was edited by Jade on May 31 2004 11:32pm. |
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