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Graeme "Vaughn"
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I am a Jedi, one of the ones who has broken the 1000 comment mark. I used to be the academy hippocrit/janitor. Sworn brother to Damon C. Belouve, Friend to the Belouve Royal Family. Unofficial Belouve family member. Owner of a Doobie and M@ULY Awards
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Eeth Koth - Student 
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Core abilities, meaning for sharingan you have the many levels of sharingan, complete with copying techniques, amaterasu, etc etc... They are core techniques because they are achieved with the sharingan alone. Byakugan on the other hand has fewer, less impressive abilities. I am in this scenario talking about in combat, of course, like I mentioned in my quote. Outside of combat obviously bya has more use, with scouting or whatever. But I'm talking about in a fight, just the Byakugan vs the Sharingan. Yes, I remember clearly how Orochimaru said that Itachi was stronger. However I also remember the talk between Itachi and Kisame when they were afraid to face Jiraiya. Itachi had said that if they were to face him, they would probably both die, and if they were lucky, take Jiraiya with him. This leads me to believe that Itachi is not above all the Sannin, just two of them. I have kept in mind Sasuke's high potential. It just seems to me that Itachi's is higher. If you look at his past, he learned and improved at a faster rate than even Sasuke. By a wide margin, in fact. (ANBU leader at like age 13?). And I think that was when he wasn't completely evil, too. When he was just nice guy Itachi. It seems to me that he settled for Sasuke, simply because Oro knew he couldn't defeat Itachi. About Kimi and Sasuke, I still don't believe he would take Kimimaro first. What would he need such a high powered body for? From what I can tell, no matter which body he transfers to he's still at least as powerful as his regular self, whom is a legendary sannin. If he took Sasuke's body, he would be well on the road to accomplishing his goal of learning all techniques, and there are very few people who are strong enough to stop him. I do understand the benefits of Kimimaro's body, but having the Uchiha body in light of Orochimaru's plan to obtain all techniques, it works better. It does not matter if Kimimaro himself is that much stronger than Sasuke, since Orochimaru's latent ability surfaces in any body he takes over. This comment was edited by Eeth Koth on Apr 08 2005 07:45am. |
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Mic Den Octela - Student 
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hehe, you should watch more, and maybe you could tell me of this anime i keep hearing you guys talk about!!  _______________ -Padawan of Virtue -Brother of Menaxia, *|irael, Krynn Adept, Majno, Ris Win Juljul, DaMi3N, Beowulf, Dash Starlight, Carrock and Yuken Zalak Bartender at Munes bar. Sir Mic of Nippledom! Proudly beating Wang, since '07. (Crackdown) |
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Eeth Koth - Student
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In the anime translation, as Itachi is fleeing from Jiraiya he says 'I was even forced to use Amaterasu'. I didn't read the manga so i'm not sure how that goes, but in the Anime he has used that ability. The black fire that burned through the rock toads stomach. I agree that byakugan is also a nice ability, but like you said it requires the backup of jyuken to be of great use in combat. I had assumed we were talking about the core abilities. I find it hard to believe that Sasuke will catch up to Itachi in power..as it is Itachi is practically Sannin level or above, and every few years his power seems to at least double. Not to mention all the new techniques he picks up via Sharingan. Of course you may be privvy to some manga knowledge that I don't have, but I don't see any evidence that Sasuke has more potential than Itachi. The reason Oro goes after Sasuke seems not that he has more potential, but he's afraid of itachi, and itachi would probably kill him if he tried it. I also don't believe that Orochimaru would prefer a healthy Kimimaro over Sasuke. Orochimaru's goal is to master every single technique there is, which leads to his desire for sharingan and the ability to copy them from people. The desire for a strong-boned body like Kimi's would be a distant second. This comment was edited by Eeth Koth on Apr 05 2005 05:43pm. |
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OpTiMe - Student 
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Well said  I have read the manga and I do actually, agree on those points when I really think about it. Furthermore, Lee is DEFINATELY faster than Sasuke, it was in the databook ^_^ However, I do still think Orochimaru now wants Sasuke more. One of the reasons, I think, is because he realizes that Sasuke could surpass Itachi in power. _______________ ------------------------ This comment was edited by OpTiMe on Apr 05 2005 04:48pm. |
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Mic Den Octela - Student 
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aye, yeah  You watch? _______________ -Padawan of Virtue -Brother of Menaxia, *|irael, Krynn Adept, Majno, Ris Win Juljul, DaMi3N, Beowulf, Dash Starlight, Carrock and Yuken Zalak Bartender at Munes bar. Sir Mic of Nippledom! Proudly beating Wang, since '07. (Crackdown) |
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OpTiMe - Student
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Hmmmm, its hard to say. Byakugan is probably better, but then comes the point of Mange-Sharingan. If you dismiss the Mange-Sharingan, then I believe the Byakugan is better, but with the Mange-Sharingan, Byakugan, I assume, would be useless. Then, I would say probably Gaara's Sand. Mainly, because Gaara is just the rox ^_^ I would say that Itachi's sharingan would easily beat Kimimaru's bones, Itachi > Sasuke > Kimimaro (Orochimaru wants Sasuke more). Whats your opinion? Try this, A classic : Chidori vs Rasengan Then, ummmmm, Sasuke's speed Vs Lee's speed. _______________ ------------------------ |
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Eeth Koth - Student
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In answer to your question on Optime's profile: Itachi against Kimimaro? haha... Kimimaro would lose, yeah. Probably without even the Sharingans help. As for Byakugan vs Sharingan..I guess that depends. In a battle all Byakugan can really do is give you 360 vision and let you read their chakra..but a developed (itachi style) sharingan..you can see the trick to any technique or copy it. Plus, offensively you have the 'Amaterasu' (shown when itachi blew out of the giant frog stomach Jiraiya summoned) and of course his 'Tsyukuyomi' illusion technique, which is the whole looking into his eyes deal. Sharingan is more powerful it seems. |
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Rinzler - Student 
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ok _______________ I fite for teh usars!1 |
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Aron - Retired 
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SOMEONE has to do the dirty work  |
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Battlin' Billy - Student 
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I'm quite ticked off about the NHL season being cancelled! I'm kinda siding with the owners on this one. Mainly, I can't feel sorry for people that make 6 figures (or more) per year complaining about their salaries or working conditions. I would kill for a salary like that, especially to play hockey!I've just been working and saving up to move back to Arizona. I'm sick and tired of the snow and cold weather (though I'm sure you get more of it than we do) plus it's SOOOOOOO expensive to live here. Anyway, that's the deal with me. I hope things are going well for you too! -BB _______________ Midbie Council Member #2 - Profile ID 2073 | Member of B@rtM@ulS@ar | Owner of Monty's 2000th comment & D@RtHM@UL's 8100th comment | Former Padawan of SilkMonkey & Arcuss JA Goaltender & NHL Fan | Fellow Rush fan to Axion|Plo Koon is my oldest JA friend Post your RL pics HERE! | Post you JK2/JK3 screenies HERE! |
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Rosie - Student 
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Hihi, try to find a pic where she doesn't have red cheeks |
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Tallepyon - Student 
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Yes he does |
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Battlin' Billy - Student 
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Victorious Vaughn! _______________ Midbie Council Member #2 - Profile ID 2073 | Member of B@rtM@ulS@ar | Owner of Monty's 2000th comment & D@RtHM@UL's 8100th comment | Former Padawan of SilkMonkey & Arcuss JA Goaltender & NHL Fan | Fellow Rush fan to Axion|Plo Koon is my oldest JA friend Post your RL pics HERE! | Post you JK2/JK3 screenies HERE! |
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Rosie - Student 
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I was at my parents house that weekend, not that it's boring ot be there but it was um 1:00 in the morning and I was sleepy. I get that bored look when I'm tired |
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SilkMonkey - Distributor of Cold Ones 
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Yes indeed. Lando rules! _______________ |-HK-47 -SilkMonkey: You are receiving a warning for being_too_sexy. If you do not stop, action will be taken against you.|| (11:13:43) � Virtue dances for Silk ||Smiling owner of Smilykrazy's 6000th comment =) ||Odan Wei's Proud Big Brother|| Janus is my official TaruTaru Cuddly Animal Type Person. ||(@Virtue) Or you could just be a man and set fire to your genitals.....you won't fall asleep for days after that.......trust me.||Thomas Skywalker er for sexy for sitt eget beste!!!!| Not changing sig until the JA loosens up. (Started: Aug 31, 2005) |
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Senor Hat - Student 
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i agree, mmm cookie /me drools _______________ I have beaten The Internet. The end guy was hard. |
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Rosie - Student
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Yeap it's me looking bored |
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Rosie - Student
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I'm great ty! how are you? The last pic was of a sad girl and...well if felt better to use another pic. I'm not sad! I'm mad j/k |
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Rosie - Student
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I juuuust changed it again ty!! *rawr* |
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Ulic Belouve - Student 
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Oh, I'm around. Not hiding, just busy. That, and my computer was an open-splatter-surgery case. I had to replace the mobo, so I had to pull everything out. End result? Now it's as good as it has ever been, AND it is running WinXP 64-Bit edition. I'll have to see how that works out for gaming. I should test that sooner rather than later, actually. Hrm. But all is going OK. I'm thinking about learning how to develop webpages so that I can spruce up the Belouve webpage. I'll see how that goes. _______________ Jedi do not fight for peace. That's only a slogan, and is as misleading as slogans always are. Jedi fight for civilization, because only civilization creates peace. |
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Damon C. Belouve - Student 
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Yes I am. Here's proof. Hehe. Damon  _______________ One of the original Belouves. Padawan to the Mighty Tido and brother to Dane and Delvin! Proud Member of the Killer D's AKA the 3 D's of Tidoness. |
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Jaina D'Kana - Jedi Instructor 
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yea its been awhile...im fine thanx, u? _______________ INTP |
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Roan Belouve - Retired 
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*EDIT* Wasn't sure where to put you so just added you where the space was. Never heard of Hector Thrawn before, any info greatly recieved. I just wanted to acknowledge all those who felt part of the family really *END OF EDIT* Vaughn Just so you know I have added you to the belouve Family Tree. No direct links but seems only right to have you on there _______________ *Bro to Vaxxla,Padawan of FiZZandOdan-Wei Part of the mighty Belouve Dynasty-Knight of Nippledom.Twin of Selphestal!**Proud Master to Kaelis and Acura Friend to anyone who would call me the same . Pic by the amazing Majno (merry)
This comment was edited by Roan Belouve on Feb 11 2005 11:24am. |
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Jaina D'Kana - Jedi Instructor
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hi back at u _______________ INTP |
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