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Of People and Padawans -Sared - Jun 01 09:34pm
First I want to give mad props to Jacen Aratan for being our guest writer for the last article. I had to go out of town for a day or two and wasn't going to be able to write anything for saturday. Thank Jacen, you own, as usaul. :D

While I was out this weekend, I went to see The Day after Tommorow. On my way there, I got stuck in traffic. less than ten feet in front of me, I see a cute couple in a green jetta. Over the course of about ten minutes of just sitting there, I witnessed them pass from first, to second, and arrive at third base, just stopping short of a home run. :eek:

God I love Dallas.

Oh, don't go to see The Day after Tommorow. If you have seen Independance Day or Armageddon, then you have had your share of this style of movie. Basically, some crackhead in Hollywood said, while comsuming 'shrooms or something of that nature, 'Hey, I have an idea! Lets see how quickly we can kill 4.2 million innocent bystanders, again!' And it sold.

Just like MOHAA, the genre is getting old. Come up with something better, PLEASE? I really do enjoy the movies and I don't wish for people this narrow/single track-minded to ruin it for me. :(


And now for something to chew on. :D



What is the meaning of a Padawan?

If you would please, take a moment to poke your head into the Holocron for what it has to say about Padawans.

Now, on that note, what does being a Padawan, or having a Padawan, mean to you? In 'teh olden days', when you could not attend classes for one reason or another, it ment that you would still recieve the training that you sought, just from a more direct source.

Apparently, things have changed. Now, according to one student I spoke to, becoming a Padawan is the only way to enable one to teach here. This is far from true. Another mistaken view is that if you do not become a Padawan, you will not become a Knight. This is also a fallacy. There are currently two students undergoing the trials that are not Padawans in any way shape or form, and they are both excelling. Why then is it so nessacery to have/become a padawan? I believe that it generates ego for both sides, so having such is desireable.

If that be your motives, so be it. If they be otherwise, then by all means, do say so here. Lets start a fire, just don't burn anyone. :cool:

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Jun 19 2004 10:06am

n00b
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 n00b

I think that being a Padawan is a measurement some use to see if our masters are good at teaching. If we do well, we reflect what our masters have taught us and that gives our masters respect from us and everyone else. This is a fun learning environment and also a large community. JAK+ masters can get you more involved in the community and this leads to making more friends. We must reflect our master's beliefs and act honorable to everyone no matter what. We become examples through this to the rest of the people playing.
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Jun 05 2004 03:06pm

Daidalus[JAP] Fisto
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 Daidalus[JAP] Fisto

:) i went to the academy one year ago. After 3 Month, i met Kueller on the NL-server and we get friends instantly. :D he was still JAS at that time, but i were his paddy and he was a was/is a great master! to me Paddawanship is like a family you have here. its like you have someone who gives you a little bit grip in here. And it was a great time Kueller was knighted. Its like you show everyone that you are close friends, thats all. Of course, Kueller gave me a great amount of skill and im really glad that i can learn from such a good teacher :D
Paddawanship is somthing that only can work if you are friends and if you trust each other. :) thats very important and thats why i dont like the "looking for a paddawan/master" threads. becoming master/padawan-relation isnt somthing you can anounce. sure, without asking you will never get a master. But only asking wothout get known a little bit, dont work either.

greetings,
daid
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This comment was edited by Daidalus[JAP] Fisto on Jun 05 2004 03:07pm.

Jun 04 2004 04:48pm

Odan-Wei Belouve
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 Odan-Wei Belouve

Well, I remember how I became one of Smily's paddy, about 3 weeks after I entered the JA.
At this time I had beaten the SP mode and was looking for some MP action :)

I started using the staff, and if I don't use it anymore for now, I'll probably learn to use it again soon :) Anyway, I'm digressing.

First, becoming a paddy was the way to get taught by skilled people, but it changed into something more personal. As I got to know my Master better, a strond friendship was born. It allowed me to focus on the game and quickly grab the basics. Being a paddy is essential for me as it gave me a structure to learn, friends to share with and a lot of fun.

I know you can achieve any position in the JA without being a paddy. It's just that paddies usually receive a personalized training that will help them improve their skills faster. Nothing more. And more important, nothing that a motivated person can't achieve by herself.

So, to summarize, being a paddy in my opinion is mostly having a special relationship with your master, based on friendship, loyalty and mutual respect.

:alliance:
Odan-Wei
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Jun 03 2004 02:35pm

DJK
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 DJK

meh i dont know, i guess it could be cool to have a master, sorta brings you more closer to echother if it is a freind, and other wise. but your right, it doesnt meen that if your not padawan you cant be anything, thats a lie:)


-DJ

Jun 02 2004 05:13pm

Kueller
 - Student
 Kueller

I have been here since the beginning (almost) and never saw the need of a Master. Sometimes the social aspects lured me, but I saw it as funny to ask someone to be my master, just so that I'd get contacts easier. So, I just stayed on my own and learned to make friends by myself. For me, that's the best thing about padawanship, you learn a lot of ppl (master+other padawan) in a short time.

The rest of all, as the only way to become JAK. It's not true, since I am a JAK too now. Also, teaching can be done by everyone, just not officially. For me, being a unit all by myself, without a master, made me feel more rogueish and less dependable from others.

My personal thing I had to learn was how to make contact more easily, and when I had done that, and got to know more ppl so they got to know me, is when the JAK ball started rolling. A lot of ppl think that if you are skilled enough and friendly enough, you'll make it. But, because of the system, you will always need to be a bit known, because it reflects your social skills, and that is important as a JAK+ too, for one thing, lamer handling.

I'd like to focus now on the ppl who want to have a master, but still don't have one: Try and make friends with JAS AND JAK+, do it gradually, don't force contact, just be around lots, and ask how things are going. Don't be insulted if they don't ask you to be padawan, because maybe they don't want another one, or they think you are good enough already. Try to make your focus becoming better, or get friends, whatever you want.

For becoming better, a master is a nice foundation, but I have found out that you need a lot of teachers to make you really bad-ass, don't stick with 1, because more know more then 1.

For socialising more, just be around a lot, talk with ppl. Don't make an aim as to "Get friends with at least 5 JAK+", just aim for getting friends who you like, regardless of rank.

Now, that I'm a master, I find the relation with my padawans very special, it's a real nice connection, but it always depends on the persons regarding it. It's not the ranks that make it special, it are the persons. I like being around my padawans, because I know them well, and I like to see them approve. The most beautifull thing there is is seeing your padawan becoming better then you are. That is a signal that both of you have worked hard, and it is the start of another kind of relation.

All by all, it's just something special, but I think you can reach that kind of intimicy with just anyone here too. It just takes more efford. And if you seek a master only because you'll get to be JAK faster, rethink your motives, it's not fair to do it, and it won't work ;)
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Jun 02 2004 04:33pm

(SKX) Dark Blade
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 (SKX) Dark Blade

Actually the Day After Tomorrow makes a valid point. If we keep up this consumption of fossil fuels creating more Green House Gas emission, we are going to pay a huge price. Not as horrific as what the movie has, but the idea the climate will change drastically isn't false. This is essentially a warning through the mass media.
P.S. Global warming does exist, a huge amount of scientific facts prove it.
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Jun 02 2004 07:34am

3th
 - Retired
 3th

being a padawan means you get lots of kick ass brothas* :D




*results may vary
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Jun 02 2004 02:34am

Coogee
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 Coogee

A little long and not straight to the point but enjoy.

Before I joined the JA I was a siege player, thats all I did more or less, play siege. I’d tried duelling and wasn’t good at all. I wasn’t the best siege player either but I knew the objectives and with the assault class(I wasn’t a great gunner either but I got on best with that one) I was able to make a difference(I hope).

So, some how I find my way to the JA, staff in hand(Yep, I started with a staff). The definition n00b was made for me, I couldn’t hit the floor if I tried. Within a week I’ve switched to the standard saber and learned a little red stance. At this point I had set up some goals for myself:
1. Stay away from force.
2. Stay away from guns.
3. Learn red stance.

At this time being a padawan didn’t even cross my mind and wouldn’t even cross paths with me for the next 2-3 months. I went to the classes I could(and there wasn’t many for JK3 at the time), and went to new ones as they started and also got help off others and became half decent in red stance.

Just before I made it into the JAA, Leif helps me a little with guns and force, having just broken two of my objectives(no guns or force) I couldn’t tell you why, only that I believe now it was evitable since its part of the game but I still wasn’t to keen on them. So JAA tryouts come along and I make it into the team some how and was so stunned I couldn’t think of anything to say(but I don’t think anyone noticed :))

So I’ve been trying to pick up yellow for a week or more but I can’t attend Luke’s Saturday yellow class because I’m almost always round my grandparents house at that time, so I’m duelling Aphex shortly after the JAA tryouts and we get onto the subject of my yellow stance and that I can’t go to lessons. Aphex then ask me if I’d like to be his paddy and he could teach me yellow. The thought of looking for a master had begun to cross my mind since I was crap at yellow and I jumped at the chance. Aphex covered some basic yellow and some red. 2-3 weeks later Virtue started his yellow class(where I would learn the bulk of my yellow).

Aphex would show me some of my sig red moves and join together my red and yellow and give me a greater understanding of the game and movement, some thing that I believe would not be able to on my own with the aid of classes. Sure maybe others could have helped if I didn’t have a master but with just one person it gave me a focus that I wasn’t able to find.

He also got me interested in guns and to a lesser extent force(:o), it got to the point where upon joining the server I would go to the fort looking to see if a FFA was taking place. Without a doubt, I would not be the player I am today if Aphex had not taken me as his paddy.

When Aphex resigned I changed all my cfg files(quite a few) within a few hours to reflected that I no longer wore the JAP tag and wore now the tag of JAS. I had asked my self what the JAP tag and being a padawan had meant to me before I change the files and if I was going to search for another master.

I was happy with the conclusion I came to. The tag meant little to me JAP or JAS, it was all the same and I would happily wear either with pride. Although I share a strong bond with others who weren’t my paddy bro’s, being a padawan gave me a pre-built family to practice and train with and at the very least we share part of some style integrated into our own(hard to explain but that means something).

And so I came to answer my final question did I want another master(I know now I should have asked an additional question to this). The reply was that I had a master in Aphex and no tag could make that any different, he just wouldn’t be around to teach me. Not that I believed I could learn nothing more, far from it, since I believe we learn from everything we do and I still had much to learn about the game. The plan was to direct the majority of questions at my bro Leif, but that really wasn’t an option since our time together was limited and unfair to him since he had padawan’s of his own to work with.

So I go around displaying with pride my newly dusted off JAS tag. Telling anyone that that asked that I have a master in Aphex and I didn’t miss my JAP tag won’t be needing a new master. Now I have some big weakness(one being a timing problem) that for the most part I hide well or don’t get exploited often but of late it appeared even more vulnerable, so where do I turn? Being a problem individual to me that I don’t really want everyone knowing since they’ll chop me to pieces, classes can help but may not cover what I want all the time.

So I ask the question I failed to earlier, do I need help with training? Yes.
I won’t bore you with how I became Kenyon’s Padawan, only to say having thought long and hard as to who I would ask he came out on the top of my list mainly because we have similar styles(not the only reason).

As for what being a padawan means to me. I see it as an honour that some wishes to train me, I also believe that a responsibility falls to me not to reflect badly upon ones master by behaving inappropriately. As a student of the academy I now teach individuals in the basics and try to help out where I can, I don’t consider these things the domain of padawans but anyone who can help and wants too.

As for ego, I don’t think I generated one and I don’t think I will but that thing is kinda hard to judge about yourself so I’ll leave it to you who reads this to decide. :)

-QG-
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Bro of many in a very deformed family tree || Formerly a Padawan of Motrec, Kenyon & Aphex AKA Quiet Guardian, QG and Coogie

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