| Where George Lucas Went Wrong -Buzz - May 29 09:08pm | |
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Alright so the whole world has seen the Star Wars Prequels. If you are of the group who believes they are the best possible movies George Lucas has ever made, seek professional help immediately. This essay however is not for that group but for the group who has accepted that the prequels are merely good enough as movies on they're own. For the people who have gotten over the mistakes and decided to accept them, the people who don't realize how wrong they are. So you’ve gotten over Jar Jar Binks being in the movies. Hey he’s a cheap comic thrill for the little kids. You’ve gotten over the ridiculous idea of making an action/kids movie about a trade embargo. You’ve gotten over that the Midichlorians were a stupid thing to introduce. You’ve gotten over Jake Lloyd’s horrible performance and stupid lines. You’ve gotten over the completely unbelievable romance between Padme and Anakin. You’ve gotten over the horrible dialogue that came from said romance. You’ve gotten over all the lackluster performances of the actors in the movie, because George Lucas doesn’t know how to direct actors. You’ve gotten over the horrible makeup job and voice changing of Palpatine. I mean come on, you got the same actor, make him look and talk more like he did in Return of the Jedi. You’ve even gotten over George Lucas’ desire to have 500 special effects going on in every shot of every scene throughout the movies. He obviously doesn’t know that people can become desensitized to a constant bombardment of images. He was probably hoping to distract you from the horrible dialogue he had written. You’re spending so much time going “ooo, ahhh” to notice that “Hey this dialogue sucks.” Quite a lot to get over isn’t it? And yet you have, good for you. And yet you’ve still missed the point. George Lucas has completely screwed up the Star Wars movies from a chronological/revelation standpoint. His intention was that you would be able to watch Episodes 1-6 in order and still have the Original Trilogy give you the same feelings from your first viewing. This is the reason he never shows star lines for the ships entering hyperspace in the Prequels. These errors are on the scale that if for some reason someone had made a prequel to the movie Citizen Kane, and every 5 minutes you see the sled with “Rosebud” written on it clearly. And so here we are at why he screwed up, and it might be something you haven’t even realized yet. 1. Yoda being shown in the Prequels. “But he was so cool and great in the Prequels. It was awesome seeing Yoda kick butt.” I’m talking revelations here. In ESB we are introduced to Yoda having no clue who he is. This small green little muppet is simply acting as a guide and will show Luke the way to find Yoda, the great warrior. Revealing that he is the great Jedi Master at that point in the story is a great shock and good cinema. But now that’s ruined You see him throughout the Prequels and you now know who he is. Forever when new people watch the Star Wars Movies for the first time in order “as they were meant to be seen” there will be no more amazing revelation. He should simply have been mentioned as being a great Jedi Master, essentially retired living and training Jedi on Dagobah even throughout the Prequels making everyone wonder who this great powerful Jedi is and adding even more anticipation to seeing him in ESB. 2. “Luke, I am your father.” Watching Anakin Skywalker become Darth Vader. The ultimate “whoa…” of the movies. Nothing can come close to this beautiful piece of work. Something so secret that the line in the script was “Obi-wan killed your father.” It would have been simple to keep this great moment perfectly intact if Lucas had been smart in his creation of the Prequels. Having Anakin go to the Dark side and Obi-wan fighting him could still have been included. Just simply having another student of Obi-wan that turns to the Dark side as well, and being severely injured and left to die before the final duel would have solved the problem. This allows Obi-wan’s “a pupil of mine, Darth Vader, betrayed and murdered your father” line of ANH to seem to have even more truth. You think Vader was this other student. Anakin’s fall still remains the same and his being left for dead as well works. You just have an ending sequence of deciding not to tell Luke what really happened to his father. This allows all things to be in balance for the original trilogy. 3. Luke and Leia are known to be twins from the end of Episode 3. You’re now going into ANH knowing that Leia and Luke are sister and brother. Everyone knows now that when Luke first sees the hologram of Leia he’s got a lusty gaze at his sister. Leia kisses Luke 3 times before its revealed they’re siblings. And the audience watching this knows it now from the start. Doesn’t that just make you go “ew?” Face it, there were ways that a good screenwriter could have kept it hidden that Luke and Leia were brother and sister. It could have been done by only talking about Obi-wan taking the boy. No real mentions of names. No actual hint as to where the other twin would end up. It would leave you wondering where “There is another” might be hidden away and giving you your first suspicions by Leia being able to hear Luke’s call for help. The revelation still stays in place. And remember this is from a purely chronological standpoint. I would never recommend a first time person to watch Episodes 1-3 before the Original Trilogy. Always watch the originals first due to the above facts. It would have been nice though to direct people to watch them all in order, and more importantly would have made sense. So there you have it, George Lucas’ failures to make his Prequels work with the greatness of the Originals. Of course he’s never really cared about that, he’s more willing to carve up the Originals to fit with the Prequels rather than the other way around. And you wonder how a Star Wars fan could pray and pray that George Lucas doesn’t make more movies. This is why. |
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3th - Retired 
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i guess time will tell who is right eh Plo? in the end i think buzz makes very valid points that as cinema Lucas makes some big mistakes. the point of me posting what i did was that the producer of TESB agrees that Lucas stumbles greatly when it comes to storytelling, which is the heart of any good movie. sure you may enjoy it for your own reasons, but i doubt you'll feel the same when you're older. a good story is enjoyable beyond adolescence, there's a richness there that holds something for everyone. _______________ this is the internet, be serious damn it! |
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Vaughn - Student 
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Quote: Some of you guys have seriously missed the point here. I like all the movies. I really enjoy each and every one of them, when I watch them. When I talk about getting over all those things I listed at the beginning, I do that when I watch them. I put them all out of my mind and enjoy it, except from anakin and padme's romance scenes. I agree completely. I have to say, my least favourite part of the prequel series, is Anakin and Padame's romance scenes (Anakins pick-up lines are TERRIBLE). The joke then becomes, he was already a master of the mind trick at that age  Quote: I love watching Yoda fight and be a character, I enjoy watching Anakin's descent into darkness and turning into Vader, and I find the birth of the twins to be an interesting event in the movies. WE love yoda. I mean, even if the surprise that hes a hardcore jedi master is ruined.. come on, you KNOW you loved watching him fight. Quote: But think cinema here. With what you see in the Prequels, and knowing those three plot points for the Originals at that early of a stage in the story, you stop taking the journey with Luke. Imagine being someone watching them for the first time, and you decide to watch them chronologically. When Yoda is revealed you're no longer surprised that the little green guy is a powerful Jedi. When Vader is revealed to be Luke's father, you can't go "no way" with Luke. When Leia is revealed to be his sister, the reason she could hear his cry no longer dawns on you. You become even more of a spectator to the movies than you were before. You know, i was thinkin of showing a friend episodes 1-6 in that order, but really, i think itd be best if i forced her to watch 4-6, 1-3. Shed kill me.. but who knows. my death hopefully will spawn another star wars fan! (if i die, someone more powerful will take my place...) Note: thats a joke, by the way... Quote: By the way you guys focused on the "ew" thing about Luke and Leia being twins. That was a bit of a joke and not a serious part. About 50% of the star wars humor out there includes the "Leia's my sister....Oh sick man you mean I kissed my sister?!" in some form or another. So true... I remember a post somewhere that was talking about "if the movies played like the games" Darth Vader after cutting Lukes hand off "Now don't make me go g_saberrealisticcombat 3 on your a$$ again if i catch you with your sister!" HAha, i loved that thread. Quote: Read this and consider them as a movie series and one long story not solely as star wars. To reveal big moments that will be occuring later on is just not good cinema or storytelling. You guys do get the Citizen Kane reference right? I dont get the Citizen Kane Reference.. but I have to agree with you. However, in some situations, revealing big moments that happen later on is an artistic decision. Usually a bad one, but like, Max Payne, for example. It starts with the end, then it explains how he got there. They did that well. Partly becuase you didnt understand the ending. hes just standin gthere with his gun saying what happened... but thats cool! Uh, i cant remember what else i have to say... _______________ When you become an actor, you become the person, and you dont act anymore. You just are. - Tyler HP, Taught by Mr G Simpson |
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Some of you guys have seriously missed the point here. I like all the movies. I really enjoy each and every one of them, when I watch them. When I talk about getting over all those things I listed at the beginning, I do that when I watch them. I put them all out of my mind and enjoy it, except from anakin and padme's romance scenes. I love watching Yoda fight and be a character, I enjoy watching Anakin's descent into darkness and turning into Vader, and I find the birth of the twins to be an interesting event in the movies. But think cinema here. With what you see in the Prequels, and knowing those three plot points for the Originals at that early of a stage in the story, you stop taking the journey with Luke. Imagine being someone watching them for the first time, and you decide to watch them chronologically. When Yoda is revealed you're no longer surprised that the little green guy is a powerful Jedi. When Vader is revealed to be Luke's father, you can't go "no way" with Luke. When Leia is revealed to be his sister, the reason she could hear his cry no longer dawns on you. You become even more of a spectator to the movies than you were before. By the way you guys focused on the "ew" thing about Luke and Leia being twins. That was a bit of a joke and not a serious part. About 50% of the star wars humor out there includes the "Leia's my sister....Oh sick man you mean I kissed my sister?!" in some form or another. Read this and consider them as a movie series and one long story not solely as star wars. To reveal big moments that will be occuring later on is just not good cinema or storytelling. You guys do get the Citizen Kane reference right? _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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Janus - Retired 
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I always know, that even after the movies came out, if and when I were to have children, I'd have them see the originals, on vhs (not the redone stuff), the way I saw it and was captivated by it the first time. Once they see it and enjoy it (or not, ya never know), and they know the movies in their original format, I'll show them the redone stuff (god help them), and eventually they'll get eps 1-3. Buzz has got the right idea, but the introduction of new things in those first 3 that don't go with the mythos DOES affect your outlook on it. We're not merely nitpicking it, but pointing out "Hey man, those things *shrugs* what are you thinking buddy? Anyways, good article and good debates. _______________ Be honorable, be friendly, be trustworthy. Show respect to all whom you meet. Don't forget you learn when you win AND when you lose. Be the first to admit mistake AND the first to correct it. Be the shoulder for someone to lean on. Always remember those that sacrificed time to help you. Thank you Odan Wei, Vladarion, 3th, Moridin, n00b, Motrec, Faded, Leif, and Tido, you will not be forgotten as the ones to make you remember, it's all about fun... |
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Plo Koon - Student 
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TESB came out in 1980 , so within 25 years he wrote 1-3. I see them all as one huge film, like an opera with 6 different parts. I mean he made it mythical, and like a Flash Gordan kind of style, even down to the "Divine Idiot" (jarjar) part of myths. If you've seen any Flash Gordan clips or episodes, it's corny as hell. There great from the first, all the way to the end, in order. Quote: IGNFF: I mean, the bottom line, is always... KURTZ: ...if you enjoy what you're seeing, and you get something out of it... IGNFF: Then it's great art to you. That's the bottom line  _______________ Free Tibet! Click this link,and learn Here too This comment was edited by Plo Koon on May 30 2005 10:11pm. |
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3th - Retired 
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Quote: He had the prequals written 30 years ago, it was all written and set...He didn't just come up with 1, 2 & 3 on the spot 10 years ago. wrong! thanks for playing!  the prequals were not written 30 years ago, you think he had a full script sitting around for that long that was never leaked? give me a break. what was set was a very basic idea of a chonology of events. of which the details were not set at all. were you aware that ROTJ wasn't supposed to end the way it did at all? you know where the theories of episodes 7, 8, and 9 come from? it's from the fact that Lucas changed the whole freakin movie storyline after TESB.but don't take my word for it: http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/376/376873p4.html those of you that have the patience, i highly recommend going back and reading the whole interview from page one. i linked to page 4 because it gets at the heart of the argument a bit faster. not a short read at all, but well worth it and some great insight into all the history of star wars. enjoy  _______________ this is the internet, be serious damn it! |
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Kenyon - Lord of the Dance 
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Nice post, Ian. |
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Ian Jandos - Student 
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Some very good points all around. I have found that you just have to seperate the two trilogies... lightning did not strike twice. Albeit the box office doesn't reflect this. Critically speaking however, the new (prequel) was carried by the old in terms of "real-life" drama. In the first trilogy, Lucas wasn't bigtime and he farmed the work out to able pro's to write and direct. The cast he had, was simply more cohesive with a script that fostered this kind of harmony. The prequel no doubt had good actors (Neeson, McGreggor, Mcdiarmid, Portman), but it didn't have a tone that allowed them to work the same kind of magic onscreen. The Harrison factor is what made the original what it is. Mark Hamil bashed Lucas for not carrying "the fun" in the prequel...and he's right. In the original, Ford's innovations pushed the general dialogue and made an already interesting character, perhaps the best character developed in sci-fi film history. Han, Leia, and Luke's dialogue all reminded us that we are not much different than them. In the prequel, we are intended to connect with characters who in the script have to be more serious because they live under a "rigid" Jedi code. The original players were not limited to such a constraint. Which brings me to another point, in the original, the force was mysterious. A magician should never reveal his secret and a comedian never explain his jokes...to his credit Lucas didn't reveal everything about the force, but it took the luster off it. The prequel tries to explain the force, as well as the origin of every other character and how they relate. In real life, things don't generally work that way. If they could have not dwelled on every aspect of the original and just picked a couple...our imaginations would still be wandering in postulation. It is easy for us to play armchair nitpickers, and I do have many other bones to pick, but the fact of the matter is that the two trilogies are different, and the latter (prequel) will always draw fire for that reason. -Ian _______________ Member #7625 | Since 7.6.04 The Archives |
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I think you guys are missing the bigger picture here. The things that made the original trilogy so great were the surprises, the secrets that were held until the last 2 movies. Things you never would have guessed before they revealed them to you. In the newer episodes, all of that is ruined. Sure, it goes in chronoligical order, but you're no longer shocked to find out that Vader is Luke's father, that Luke and Leia are siblings, that Yoda is that little green guy on Degoba. These were things that made the original trilogy so awesome to begin with. Now they're just endings to episodes 1-3. For people who have never seen any of the movies, they won't understand the greatness of episodes 4-6 now. In fact, they'll probably hate them due to the cheaper special effects (which in my opinion are better than the ones in the new movies). Instead, it's best to watch them in the order we all did, 4-6 first, then 1-3 to understand the whole story. _______________ - Proud padawan of Kueller. - We really are at the beginning of it all. The trick, of course, is to make sure we never find the end. - Bill Bryson, A Short History of Nearly Everything - <gen-e-sis-happy> Liek, you can train, liek, a n00b, but he'll just be a trained n00b... --> Wise words! - "daer SOE me likes your a company i am having your some money for letting me do stuff cos mes the best amd i do it all meself" - Slider |
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Khâ D'Kana - Student 
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Quote: Am I the only one in the world that likes Episode I and II?(III ROCKED!) They are good movies. But the problem is they have no suprise effect at all. You already know what is the Force, and how the story will end in a long-term view. You've to watch them as an explanation from how a republic became an empire. We will see what will happen with Bilbo the Hobbit. LOTR has been really successfull. But Bilbo the Hobbit isn't going to have the surprise effect (we already know the shire, the races, Gandalf, Bilbo, etc.). Anyway I agree and disagree with Buzz at the same time. I think actors weren't well directed. The romance was relatively bad. Beside this, special effects were everywhere so you can't be shocked (in the good sense) by them. But I don't think the spoilers given in 1-3 will cut down 4-6 interest. For example you will be shocked seeing the 4th episode that Luke is a farmer. You will be like OMG Darth Vader's son is a farmer  And you will still have Han Solo. Don't forget the prequels are about diplomacy and jedi fighting when the originals are about contrebands and X-Wings.my 2 cents, -Khâ D'Kana _______________ In light of day, nor dark of night, no evil shall escape our sight. Proud member of the D'Kana family |
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Kenyon - Lord of the Dance
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Too bad it's announced an essay but it has no arguments whatsoever, just opinions on how things are less fun when put together in chronological order. Oh, and I agree with Sid. |
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Tyrant - Ex-Student 
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Quote: Buzz said: And I agree with this guy Quote: Quite a lot to get over isn’t it? And yet you have, good for you. And yet you’ve still missed the point. I think it seems to be you who has missed the point. You're saying that the prequels are screwed up because of storyline issues from a totally biased perspective. Instead of Vader's father revelation being a shock, it's a denoument. The movie is changed, but that doesn't mean it's made any worse. Not to mention nearly every fault you mentioned for the prequels was present in the original trilogy as well. Honestly, have you even seen A New Hope? I would rank all three prequel movies above ANH. To be perfectly honest, I think Prequel Trilogy is perfectly on par with the Original Trilogy. I don't know why people expect a b-movie to suddenly become Shakespeare. Edit: Not to mention the scene in Return of the Jedi, where Vader casts away his entire meaning and the only person who always supported him into a reactor shaft for his son, has about a thousand times more impact if the PT seen first. You see Vader in a whole new light, and it's really amazing. I know that if I had the option to show someone who had never seen Star Wars the entire series, I would show it in order, 1-6. Orion said: Quote: When I see the birth of Luke and Liea, and see Sentor Organa say he will take the girl, then later on in episode 4 hear the name Liea Organa, and see how Luke has the hots for her. I would be creeped out and probably stop watching, fully knowing that they are brother and sister If that is seriously enough to make you stop watching a movie, I feel sorry for you. You need to relax, man. . |
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Am I the only one in the world that likes Episode I and II?(III ROCKED!) |
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Carve - Student 
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Buzz said: Quote: Quite a lot to get over isn’t it? And yet you have, good for you. And yet you’ve still missed the point. I think it seems to be you who has missed the point. You're saying that the prequels are screwed up because of storyline issues from a totally biased perspective. Instead of Vader's father revelation being a shock, it's a denoument. The movie is changed, but that doesn't mean it's made any worse. Not to mention nearly every fault you mentioned for the prequels was present in the original trilogy as well. Honestly, have you even seen A New Hope? I would rank all three prequel movies above ANH. To be perfectly honest, I think Prequel Trilogy is perfectly on par with the Original Trilogy. I don't know why people expect a b-movie to suddenly become Shakespeare. Edit: Not to mention the scene in Return of the Jedi, where Vader casts away his entire meaning and the only person who always supported him into a reactor shaft for his son, has about a thousand times more impact if the PT seen first. You see Vader in a whole new light, and it's really amazing. I know that if I had the option to show someone who had never seen Star Wars the entire series, I would show it in order, 1-6. Orion said: Quote: When I see the birth of Luke and Liea, and see Sentor Organa say he will take the girl, then later on in episode 4 hear the name Liea Organa, and see how Luke has the hots for her. I would be creeped out and probably stop watching, fully knowing that they are brother and sister If that is seriously enough to make you stop watching a movie, I feel sorry for you. You need to relax, man. _______________ © This comment was edited by Carve on May 30 2005 12:43pm. |
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Quote: Lucas said himself "after you watch 1-3, 4-6 are different now, when you see star wars again it wont be the same". He had the prequals written 30 years ago, it was all written and set, but he couldn't make entire planets with nothing but volcanos and huge space battles orbiting over a planet. He didn't just come up with 1, 2 & 3 on the spot 10 years ago. 1. Luke doesn't know who Yoda is, he's just some weird little green creature that can talk. It won't be a revealing, it will be like seeing an old friend again. 2. The dark side can be a powerful influence, and not just on the weak-minded. The dark side of Anikan was Darth Vader, so Vader & Anikan killed Anikan, he made the choices, he let some sith lord twist his mind until he no longer thought humane. 3. Even though we know and it is "ew!", Leia and Luke don't know that they are brother and sister, I mean your walking down the street and you see this hot girl you've never seen before do you automaticly think of your sister? Luke thinks he's an only child, the only family he knows is his uncle and aunt, and a lie about his dad. I think he did a great job with connecting 1,2 and 3, with 4, 5, and 6. I guess I just don't go searching for the bad stuff,nitpicking here and there. I just enjoy and relax, but all you seem to say is how bad certain points are for you Agreed. I agree. _______________ -Phantom Ex-Master to Threat. Proud owner of Sazabi's 1500th comment! And Threats 50th comment "Insanity: a perfect rational adjustment to an insane world" |
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The reason why he started by making ANH was because it created the best cinema. He made the prequels becuase he wanted more money. Accept them for what they are - a bit of fun. Stop picking holes in a kiddies yarn. _______________ This is not the place to look for me |
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Quote: Lucas said himself "after you watch 1-3, 4-6 are different now, when you see star wars again it wont be the same". He had the prequals written 30 years ago, it was all written and set, but he couldn't make entire planets with nothing but volcanos and huge space battles orbiting over a planet. He didn't just come up with 1, 2 & 3 on the spot 10 years ago. 1. Luke doesn't know who Yoda is, he's just some weird little green creature that can talk. It won't be a revealing, it will be like seeing an old friend again. 2. The dark side can be a powerful influence, and not just on the weak-minded. The dark side of Anikan was Darth Vader, so Vader & Anikan killed Anikan, he made the choices, he let some sith lord twist his mind until he no longer thought humane. 3. Even though we know and it is "ew!", Leia and Luke don't know that they are brother and sister, I mean your walking down the street and you see this hot girl you've never seen before do you automaticly think of your sister? Luke thinks he's an only child, the only family he knows is his uncle and aunt, and a lie about his dad. I think he did a great job with connecting 1,2 and 3, with 4, 5, and 6. I guess I just don't go searching for the bad stuff,nitpicking here and there. I just enjoy and relax, but all you seem to say is how bad certain points are for you Agreed. |
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Set, you missing the underlying point. Its about the revelation luke has when he figures out Leia is his sister. If you watched Ep3 before he has the revelation, its spoiled for you. Now if like Buzz said Lucas only showed Padme giving birth to Luke and them only discussing Luke then the surpize of the revelation is still there and you get to experince it as you journy through the movie. _______________ When a Man lies he murder's some part of the world. These are the pale deaths which men misscall there lives. All this I cannot bear to witness any longer. Cannot the kingdom of salvation take me home? -Cliff Burton Owner of Smily's 1900th comment | <Lady_Catherine> i love your sexy white socks! | (Lady_Catherine) i adore u! | (Lady_Catherine) onion (Lady_Catherine) i lub u |
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Setementor - Jedi Master 
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Quote: 3. Even though we know and it is "ew!", Leia and Luke don't know that they are brother and sister, I mean your walking down the street and you see this hot girl you've never seen before do you automaticly think of your sister? Luke thinks he's an only child, the only family he knows is his uncle and aunt, and a lie about his dad. I find this to be true. I have watched 4, 5 and 6 hundreds of times, and I still don't think "ew" when I watch them.  |
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Tido - Student 
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I can agree with most of the things you mentioned, but it's crying over spilled milk now. Nothing we can do about it except maybe hope that another director/writer is given permission to continue the story...someday. |
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Nive Article Buzz. Personally I am looking forawrd to seeing Ep4-6 again and see if there is a difference now all the gaps have beeen filled. I accept alot of the misteries we discover won't be misteries to ppl coming to the stories for the first time. But I still see the kiss in ESB as an innocent kiss even after I had seen ROTJ. What I always think is that to ctreate something without flaws from scratch is very difficult it is eastier to identify flaws in others work, maybe GL shuld have thought about that when he was writing 1-3. But ultimately they are the stories he wanted to tell and so he is being true to himself and unfortunatley annoying a few people on the way MAY THE FORCE BE WITH US ALL /me goes to watch ROTS AGAIN _______________ *Bro to Vaxxla,Padawan of FiZZandOdan-Wei Part of the mighty Belouve Dynasty-Knight of Nippledom.Twin of Selphestal!**Proud Master to Kaelis and Acura Friend to anyone who would call me the same . Pic by the amazing Majno (merry)
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Orion - Retired
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Plo, with any good book/movie trilogy/series you SHOULD be able to watch them 1 through x with out knowing core parts of the plot that will happen later in the story. Of course minus elements of foreshadowing. If you can't then there is some obvious flaws with the storying telling.. Mainly that Lucas writes horrible dialog, and can't direct. If I were to watch the series right now 1 - 6 have not seen the originals (4-6). When I see the birth of Luke and Liea, and see Sentor Organa say he will take the girl, then later on in episode 4 hear the name Liea Organa, and see how Luke has the hots for her. I would be creeped out and probably stop watching, fully knowing that they are brother and sister. That ruins the story, and the suprize like buzz says, and its bad writing. Yes you can do that whole I don't know its my sister I have the hots for thing, only through correct story telling ie don't let the viewer know before hand they are siblings.. Yeah they are suppost to be movies that are fun and entertaning but watching 1-3 before 4-6 you can almost know the whole plot of 4-6. Though I do agree with buzz where they should of had another pupal under Obi-wan It would of made the story Obi-wan tells Luke fit more, though yes the play on words thing does work. Adding another person makes it fit better. I dissagre with he did a great job, yeah he did tie them together but it could of been done much better . Though better dialog/acting and better writing and directing.. _______________ When a Man lies he murder's some part of the world. These are the pale deaths which men misscall there lives. All this I cannot bear to witness any longer. Cannot the kingdom of salvation take me home? -Cliff Burton Owner of Smily's 1900th comment | <Lady_Catherine> i love your sexy white socks! | (Lady_Catherine) i adore u! | (Lady_Catherine) onion (Lady_Catherine) i lub u |
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Plo Koon - Student
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Lucas said himself "after you watch 1-3, 4-6 are different now, when you see star wars again it wont be the same". He had the prequals written 30 years ago, it was all written and set, but he couldn't make entire planets with nothing but volcanos and huge space battles orbiting over a planet. He didn't just come up with 1, 2 & 3 on the spot 10 years ago. 1. Luke doesn't know who Yoda is, he's just some weird little green creature that can talk. It won't be a revealing, it will be like seeing an old friend again. 2. The dark side can be a powerful influence, and not just on the weak-minded. The dark side of Anikan was Darth Vader, so Vader & Anikan killed Anikan, he made the choices, he let some sith lord twist his mind until he no longer thought humane. 3. Even though we know and it is "ew!", Leia and Luke don't know that they are brother and sister, I mean your walking down the street and you see this hot girl you've never seen before do you automaticly think of your sister? Luke thinks he's an only child, the only family he knows is his uncle and aunt, and a lie about his dad. I think he did a great job with connecting 1,2 and 3, with 4, 5, and 6. I guess I just don't go searching for the bad stuff,nitpicking here and there. I just enjoy and relax, but all you seem to say is how bad certain points are for you _______________ Free Tibet! Click this link,and learn Here too This comment was edited by Plo Koon on May 29 2005 11:02pm. |
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Kueller - Student 
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Let's hope for her sake she sais 4-6 ALl true BTW Buzz, a good article. _______________ Personal sleepness-nights-supporter of Virtue. Owner of the 1000th comment of Daidalus and 1943th comment of Gradius! Owner of the 300th comment of Carda! -Taught Gradius all his laming skills
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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student 
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exactly! which is exactly why I am making my girlfriend watch Episode 4-5-6 first, then the prequels I'll report what she found to be the best trilogy of them both later _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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