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monkai - Student |
Before i say anything. Im not complaining about anything The Jedi Academy Is great and i just want to think of a way to make it better. If we can make this Galtaic Senate The students will be able to have some word in the this senate. So like 6 people [I hope Inculding me] will be a part of the senate and will think of ideas that we can send to the Council. Senate can have ideas on the New Mod or new things. But we can also have votes to think if the ideas that fair for the students. Because the senate is made out of students. So they know its fair for the students!Maybe This will be ok. I hope it will
P.S I hope this makes sense 
Please Post on How you Feel about this.  This post was edited by monkai on Feb 25 2003 08:35pm. |
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Masterw/AMohawk[JAP] - Ex-Student ![Masterw/AMohawk[JAP]](/image_thumbnail.php?f_type=users&f_width=51&f_height=70&f_image=Masterwmohawk.jpg)
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I don't think it's neccesarily a bad idea, but maybe not a neccesary one. I mean if you get on IRC there's usually a JAC in there and, if you yell loud enough, they'll eventaully wake up and notice you're talking to them heh.
You can't really think of the Council as an unaccesible group of people that we need a "student council" to get through to, because that's simply not the case. I talk to DJ alot for example, and while he may not be on when the idea pops into my head, if I'm patient I'll usually seem him online within a few hours, at which point I could voice my concerns/opinions/ideas. I think it would be interesting, however, to see some type of student organization which people could be a part of, no matter what it is really. Things like the hydroball/rocketball teams, those ar great ideas and help the community be stronger and give the students more acitivites than just classroom time. _______________ [Oi Oi Oi!!] |
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Fizz of Belouve - Student 
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Do you think that is really necessary ? As said earlier, IRC and eMail and this forum offer great possibilities to contact the council and other staff.
Dont get me wrong, I am not against ur idea, I just think u would overdo it, this way. _______________ One of the Belouve boys, founder of the mighty FiZZsters Midbie council #20 - Fizz - #1933 - Jan '03 - Aug '04 "Renfield, you idiot!" |
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Ruuk Haviser - Retired 
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Watch this: a short post from Ruuk!
"Hmm...I'm not sure. I'll have to think about it some more." -rh _______________ Back from the dead... This comment was edited by Ruuk Haviser on Feb 27 2003 06:49am. |
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Kalheka - Student 
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Well either way it works DJ, I think you guys do a rockin job
I thought I remembered Av having that type of position, thanks for reminding me. _______________ Death is only the beginning. |
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Insaniac[JAP] - Ex-Student ![Insaniac[JAP]](/image_thumbnail.php?f_type=users&f_width=70&f_height=52&f_image=insaniac.jpg)
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i suggest you Actually attend a council meeting it doesn't sound like you realize how much say we ACTUALLY have, and i don't think we need anything more implace, so what i would like is for you to wait two weeks and during that time goto the council meetings and talk to the higher ranks when you have a problem, and THEN come back in two weeks if you think it isn't enough. _______________ Midbie Council Member #13 Padawan of SilkMonkey Stuntman extraordinaire |
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monkai - Student |
What I have to say is that students need to have more of a voice in . This may also help the council. So like we can see the suggestion first. We have a vote to see if its good enough. And then if it is. Then we can send it to the Council. That way it will help the Council ,to reduce the amount of emails they get. |
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Fonz - Student 
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Firstly i would like to say that i think that the council members do a stirling job here at the academy. I also feel that we have a very good forum for expressing our ideas; not only here but also in IRC and also via email.
However i also like the idea of having what i would term a liason committee basically it would be like a staff-student liason committee at a university; they would bring to the attention of the council any problems, queries or requests that students have. This would be of benefit for one main reason: 1. This would mean that council members would not be bombarded with emails from so many students in the academy. I don't actually know the number that they receive and it may be small enough to cope with however it seems to me that for general matters iw would be ideal. This way they wouldn't be molested on IRC and in the forums via email etc. They would either meet once a month to discuss "business" or they would receive one email a month updating them on the general feeling that is in the academy. Having said all this, clearly the council themselves can say whether they are inundated with emails, if not then it seems to me that a liason committee is a little unnecessary The other question i would like to ask is whether the council members ever fell disassociated with the students - if this is the case (which i strongly doubt  ), then a liason committee could help in this way.
Also i like the idea of polls - not really sure why... ...but i do
anyway my thoughts, for what they're worth. _______________ Support bacteria, they're the only culture some people have. |
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DJ Sith - Jedi Council 
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Kal: lately it's been student's 1st and website 2nd.  I use the website excuse when there's either LOTS of work to do on the site or I get a bunch of students rushing me with questions. _______________ My car is made of Nerf. |
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Trebizond - Ex-Student 
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Quite like the Canadian Parliament idea. . . :p Just one thing, considering I'm assuming its based on our Parliament. . . if we have a Student Council, and it decides on something three times within a set period, would it bypass the upper house (Senate, Lords, whatever) automatically? That is in place here to stop the historically conservative upper house naysaying everything that they disagree with. . . . .
Fight the power, people
Take it easy, Treb _______________ "He asked us 'Be you angels?' and we said 'Nay! We are but Men!'" |
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Buzz - Student 
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Actually Kal, what you are talking about is what Avalon's original role was on the Council. He was the official liason or something to that effect. He tooke the job of Lead Instructor after Silent Whisper had to leave for college. So there originally was the person on the council that you speak of. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. This comment was edited by Buzz on Feb 26 2003 04:39pm. |
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Vaughn - Student 
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so in effect, your making like a canadian house of commons. The house of commons is where the prime minister comes in, they make laws, etc etc, send it to the senate (council  ) and then they either approve it, or disapprove it. The house of commonstakes care of everyday stuff, the senate drinks but the finest champagne and eats only the best steak (if your reading this, you know who im talking too) _______________ When you become an actor, you become the person, and you dont act anymore. You just are. - Tyler HP, Taught by Mr G Simpson |
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Kalheka - Student
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I agree, I have no trouble emailing dj or any other council member that I feel I want to speak with.
I DO however think that there should be a student rep on the council. Somebody that is just the voice of the students. All the current council members have that job on top of the other things that they do. DJ for example, runs the website among other things, listening to us is basically secondary. AV runs the trainers, so on and so forth. So I think there should be a JAC that is the student Liason. _______________ Death is only the beginning. |
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ioshee - Student 
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It sounds kinda like the electoral college. _______________ One of the Belouve boys |
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Buzz - Student
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Also in a senate not every member represents every citizen. A senator would represent a certain group, and another senator would represent a different group. How would you determine which person would represent which group. And what if you are the only person in a group that feels a certain way about something. How could you get your point across to everyone else? And the reason you would need to split it up is so you don't have one person bringing up a topic to every single member of this senate. The members might end up thinking that there are 6 people talking about this instead of only one. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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[JAS]GrymOne - Student ![[JAS]GrymOne](/image_thumbnail.php?f_type=users&f_width=58&f_height=70&f_image=grymone.jpg)
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New here but my 2 Cred's...
I like the way things are as is..well...lol.. If I have a problem/idea or anyone else does like everyone else has said..I'll log into IRC and for those who dont have mIRC or something else...Just hit chat..Simple easy access to the Ruling body for everyone Grym |
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Rampage - Student 
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As so many others have commented, we can just mail DJ or doob |
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Rampage - Student 
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I'm up for some kind of poll stuff, I think it sounds great "Do u think the JA rules?"
Yes: ==============99,9%================== No: = 0,1% I've got nothing against that Senate, but I dunno how that senate is gonna know what most of the JAS wants/thinks/whatever...it's pretty high JAS numbers, me thinks. I think we JAS got (my opinion) enough voice here at the academy. (not that i don't want supreeme power n stuff) |
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Insaniac[JAP] - Ex-Student ![Insaniac[JAP]](/image_thumbnail.php?f_type=users&f_width=70&f_height=52&f_image=insaniac.jpg&f_odd=1)
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I SAY NAY!!!!
we have LOTs of voice, if you want to bring something directly to the coucel, well gues what? learn the councel time and whisper your idea to one of the councel members, then they might give you voice (from what i have seen, it is USUAlly) and let you tell your ideas to EVERYONE and then they will discuss it, and then another student might IM one of the council about your idea or a new one... what i am saying is that it is just NOT needed, the Jaks are our representitives if we can't make it to the meeting. i like having the knights representing us, i don't like the idea of a few other people journyman or below just representing the students at large, if i have a problem, i will goto the council meeting myself or IM a Jak, JAT or JAC and i KNOW they will bring it up. bassically i think the higher members (like Knight and above) already have experiance keeping their personal biases out and will represent me properly, i am not sure i would like to trust a lower memeber with that responsibility. i kinda like the voting idea but some unscrupulous people would tyr to rig the vote or vote multiple times so i URGE whoever sets it up (if it does get set up) makes sure they implement anti cheating devices. _______________ Midbie Council Member #13 Padawan of SilkMonkey Stuntman extraordinaire |
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Battlin' Billy - Student 
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I think the Council knows what the students are saying. They read the forums too. It seems to me that having a dedicated Senate would be more trouble than its worth. Plus, if you have anything to suggest, complain about, etc., it's easier to just email some1 on the Council.
But the polls are a cool idea. Even if the question isn't necessarily a "serious" one about the Academy. My 2ยข
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Aeth S'kray - Retired 
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er, i thought knights were the students "mouths" as well as the councils "mouths". kinda the connection between the two sides.
and a council is slow. lots of talkling, less acting. and how would those 6 guys know the opinion of all the other students? how can they represent their opinion if they wont meet and know them? polls would be a cool thing i'd say. open chat-meetings would be cool aswell. like the council chat but open for everyone. don't ask me how to control 1000 student all screaming their ideas, but oh well _______________ Aeth S'kray *June 2002 +September 2003 |
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Bubu - Hubbub 
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ohh.. really? cool.. _______________ make install -not war |
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Sared - Retired 
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Actually Master, JAKs are more like 'graduated' students. _______________ I'm crazy, not stupid. |
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Bubu - Hubbub
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ok first of all, i just want to say that JAKs are also STUDENTS. believe it or not
and that council you speak of... isn't that what JAKs are supposed to be? i'm kinda confused here. what exactly is my job description?
but if you guys feel like it isn't enough, by all means create a council. if it will help improve communication and the flow of ideas, i'm all for it. _______________ make install -not war |
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Sared - Retired
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Good idea, lemme fill in some details.
First, the six Senat Members are chosen by the students. Second, Member can only hold their 'office' for a set period of time. Third, each Member must be a Journeyman or lower (duh! )
Fourth, when the Senate reports something to the JAKs, JATs or Council, this should be taken as the opinion of ALL the students of the JA and each member should act accordingly to see to it that this is so. I dunno if there should be a Senat Leader or not, I would prefer there not to be and give each member equal voice. Works out better beuracratically too _______________ I'm crazy, not stupid. |
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MINDofSIN - Student 
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I agree with Buzz on this. We're free to express all of our opinions and ideas. We are allowed to sit in on Academy meetings in IRC too.
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