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CuZzA - Student  |
1/3 = 33.3(recurring)% 2/3 = 66.6(recurring)% What does 3/3 equal? 99.9(recurring)% or because 3/3 = 1 does that mean that 3/3 = 100%? OR does it mean that 99.9(recurring)% is equal to 100%? Tell me what you think... _______________ - Even if Carlsberg made "w*nkers", Christiano Ronaldo would still be the biggest "w*nker" in the world |
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Smilykrazy - Retired 
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/me sees math problem /me runs away!!  _______________ RIP MOM 06/29/58-07/31/08 Married to Koyi Donita 4/30/11 |
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Charly - Student 
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Well since 3/3 is a whole then 3/3 is equal to 100% of something. 1/3 of something means you have 33% and 2/3 means that you have 66%. |
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Scythus Aratan - Student 
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Knights should have to take a mathmatics test to make sure they can get stuff right  . _______________ Padawan to the great Jacen Aratan! <Setementor> Scythus is a genius! Claimer of the 5000th post in the Count thread [Solitude] scy rocks [Casual] good point scythus, you're really smart |
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Tido - Student 
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oooo ouch, don't round down!!! hehe that's fine, but you better hurry up! My birthday was Saturday! Pfffftt....0 caring for your beloved Knights |
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_cmad_ - Ex-Student 
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OWNED! _______________ Your friends of today, are your enemies of tomorrow. |
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Scythus Aratan - Student 
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Fine. I'm only gonna get you 0.99999~ of a Birthday Present. I thought that was one but NOOOOOOOO. So i'll have to get you .9999999 presents then. And I round down. _______________ Padawan to the great Jacen Aratan! <Setementor> Scythus is a genius! Claimer of the 5000th post in the Count thread [Solitude] scy rocks [Casual] good point scythus, you're really smart |
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_cmad_ - Ex-Student
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pfff blaming limitations 1 = .9999 Unless you only wanna get .9999 of your bday present! (Like scythus said on MSN) _______________ Your friends of today, are your enemies of tomorrow. |
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Tido - Student
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It still isn't. The value of 1 and .999999~ are not identical. But because of the limitations of our ability to process math, we cannot calculate the number needed to prove it. |
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CuZzA - Student 
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hahaahahahaha! _______________ - Even if Carlsberg made "w*nkers", Christiano Ronaldo would still be the biggest "w*nker" in the world |
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_cmad_ - Ex-Student 
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Quote: So I stand corrected in the aspect that practically .9999~ is virtually 1 It's practically 1... So from now on instead of 1, everyone let's say 0.99999999 _______________ Your friends of today, are your enemies of tomorrow. |
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Scythus Aratan - Student
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And until we do we can calmly assume it is 1. _______________ Padawan to the great Jacen Aratan! <Setementor> Scythus is a genius! Claimer of the 5000th post in the Count thread [Solitude] scy rocks [Casual] good point scythus, you're really smart |
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CuZzA - Student 
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thank you! thats what i am saying, i just wanted to see how you guys would say that .99 = 1  _______________ - Even if Carlsberg made "w*nkers", Christiano Ronaldo would still be the biggest "w*nker" in the world |
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Tido - Student 
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Ok so practically yes there is no number that you can multiply by .9999~ and get 1 because that number 's right hand side repeats indefinatly and can't be expressed, much like pi. So I stand corrected in the aspect that practically .9999~ is virtually 1, but in infinate math the solution is possible, we just don't have a way to do that yet. |
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_cmad_ - Ex-Student
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Quote: wtf, ok guys, listen up. 1/3 does NOT equal .3333, it equals .3with the 3rds repeating indefinatly. 1/3 equals one divided by three and nothing more. That's all a fraction is, it is something not yet divided. So 3/3 does not equal .999999whatever. It equals 1. 3/3 is like saying I have 3 parts of a 3 part thing. So therefor I have 1 thing. And .99999999999whatever does not equal 1. It equals .9999999whatever. There is no shade of grey in numbers. Otherwise if .99999999999whatever = 1, then you could multiply any number by .99999999999 and get the same number.....but you don't! 3/3 = 100% Yeah I wrote 1/3 = .333 because I didn't feel like writing 231810924892104812084912 pages of 3's but .333..33 + .333..33 + .333..33 = .999..99... It *is* so... Anyway, the 9x way is more correct.... And .999 IS equal to 1. Ask in sci.math or w/e the usenet group was. _______________ Your friends of today, are your enemies of tomorrow. |
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Scythus Aratan - Student
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If a number is not equal to another you must be able to multiply it by something to create that number. This is true for every two numbers not equal. There is no number you can multiply 0.999~ by to get 1, therefore they must be the same. _______________ Padawan to the great Jacen Aratan! <Setementor> Scythus is a genius! Claimer of the 5000th post in the Count thread [Solitude] scy rocks [Casual] good point scythus, you're really smart This comment was edited by Scythus Aratan on Sep 13 2004 10:01pm. |
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Tido - Student
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All you did was remove the fraction algebraically, you did not prove that the fraction actually represents a different value equal to 1. |
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Scythus Aratan - Student
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Ok Tido Take 0.9999999 recurring. Call it x. 10x must equal 9.99999 recurring since 10 x 0.9999 recurring is that. Take away x, to leave 9x. So 9.99999 recurring - 0.9999 recurring is 9. Since we took off 1 lot of X, it is now 9x = 9. So x=1. There is no way that can be true unless 0.999 recurring and 1 are the same. _______________ Padawan to the great Jacen Aratan! <Setementor> Scythus is a genius! Claimer of the 5000th post in the Count thread [Solitude] scy rocks [Casual] good point scythus, you're really smart |
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Tido - Student
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wtf, ok guys, listen up. 1/3 does NOT equal .3333, it equals .3with the 3rds repeating indefinatly. 1/3 equals one divided by three and nothing more. That's all a fraction is, it is something not yet divided. So 3/3 does not equal .999999whatever. It equals 1. 3/3 is like saying I have 3 parts of a 3 part thing. So therefor I have 1 thing. And .99999999999whatever does not equal 1. It equals .9999999whatever. There is no shade of grey in numbers. Otherwise if .99999999999whatever = 1, then you could multiply any number by .99999999999 and get the same number.....but you don't! 3/3 = 100% This comment was edited by Tido on Sep 13 2004 09:48pm. |
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_cmad_ - Ex-Student
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Quote: cmad, you can't just change the value of A halfway through the problem a = 0.99999 10a != 9.99999 ( != means does not equal ) What are you talking about.... I said a = 0.999999 so 10*a = 9.999999... Can't get more logical :| so 10*a - a = 9.9999 - 0.9999 <=> 9a = 9 <=> a = 1 It's just a plain linear equation _______________ Your friends of today, are your enemies of tomorrow. |
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Scythus Aratan - Student
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Do 10 times 0.99999999999999999999999999999999999. Its 9.999999999999999999999999999(etc) right? So 10a == 9.999999999999999999999 _______________ Padawan to the great Jacen Aratan! <Setementor> Scythus is a genius! Claimer of the 5000th post in the Count thread [Solitude] scy rocks [Casual] good point scythus, you're really smart |
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Fate - Student 
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cmad, you can't just change the value of A halfway through the problem a = 0.99999 10a != 9.99999 ( != means does not equal ) _______________ I must not fear . Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear . I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain. Gom gom gom gom gom! This comment was edited by Fate on Sep 13 2004 08:52pm. |
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_cmad_ - Ex-Student
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Cuzza that problem is ooold ;D And yeah... 0.99999 = 1. It's defined by math. And I got 3 ways to prove it One. a = 0.99999 10a = 9.99999 10a - a = 9.99999 - 0.9999 = 9 (the .999's go away since they're equal) so 9a = 9 <=> a = 1... earlier we had said that a = 0.9999 though Two. 1/3 + 1/3 + 1/3 = 0.333 + 0.333 + 0.333 = 0.999 1/3 + 1/3 + 1/3 = 3 * 1/3 = 1 (lame arse way )Three. For number A to be greater than number B, there must be a number C that's between the two. (I don't remember the theorem's name, unfortunately). So for 1.0 to be greater than 0.99999 (infinite 9's), there must be a number between the two... And since the number of 9's is infinite, we cannot add, say, another digit at the end... Thus there is no number between 0.99999 and 1; thus, they're equal. _______________ Your friends of today, are your enemies of tomorrow. |
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Scythus Aratan - Student
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They are essentially the same thing . If you have 99.9'% of something you pretty much can safely say you have 100%. _______________ Padawan to the great Jacen Aratan! <Setementor> Scythus is a genius! Claimer of the 5000th post in the Count thread [Solitude] scy rocks [Casual] good point scythus, you're really smart |
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Squibit - Student 
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99.9 RECCURING will never quite be 100 but very very close that it'll do _______________ Quote: fiZZe: its SIR Fizzy Fluffy :p Quote: FiZZ[JAK]: that was what I call a counter Ah, things you only ever expect to hear once
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Raos - Student 
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100%=100% 99.9%!=100% If you were 99.9% of the home depending on the distance you may or may not be close. However if you are 100% of the way home you will be in the garage, though very nice comparison and rational thinking. _______________ Quote: ONOS!!!!!!1111ONEONEONEoneoneone......
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