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The Fall Open - Double Elimination/2 Bracket Tourney
Oct 22 2004 03:08am

Tido
 - Student
Tido
*name edited :P*

For the end of this month, we will be having a small double elimination tournament. There will be 2 events: Full Force and No Force. The NF and FF events are two seperate divisions.

Registration
Registration for this tournament ends on Saturday October 23rd at 11:59PM GMT. No more applicants will be accepted after this date. To register please leave a comment with what type of dueling you'd like to participate in (FF, NF, or both).


Rounds:
Each participant will be paired up with another randomly and the first round will be announced on Sunday October 24th at 5AM GMT.

After the match list is announced, the participants will have until the end of Tuesday October 26th to complete their matches and post the results.

The next rounds will be posted after that and completion dates will be determind at that time.


The Matches:
Each match between participants will be a best out of 5. NF matches will be fought in usual duels and FF matches will use the amffduelchallenge system. For FF all force powers are acceptable. If the two participants cannot get together to fight their matches, the winner will be decided by a coin toss. If the results of your matches must be decided by a coin flip more than once, you are automatically eliminated from the tournament. When the match is completed, the loser must come to this thread and post the results.


Double Elimination/2 Bracket:
In double elimination tournaments a single defeat does not preclude the player from winning. After the 1st round, the players are subdivided into two brackets: the winners of the 1st round play in the Winners Bracket while the losers of ther 1st round go to Losers Bracket.

In every round, the losers in the Winners Bracket step down to play in the Losers Bracket. Also at every round, the losers in the Losers Bracket are eliminated from the tournament, while the winners are paired with each other for the next round. At the very last final round, the winner of the Winners Bracket fights with the winner of the Losers Bracket for the championship. The final match cannot be decided by a coin toss.

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Participants
No Force

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| Winner's Bracket |
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Sauce (5-0)

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| Loser's Bracket |
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illian D'kana (5-1)
Sfire (4-1)



Eliminated/Withdrawn
3th (3-2, E)
Carda Jowol (4-2, E)
Italian Ice (0-1, W)
MonkaiMan (0-1, W)
Bail Hope Belouve (0-2, E)
D@mned (1-2, E)
Darkwood (0-2, E)
Delta (2-2, E)
Devlin (0-2, E)
Gradius (1-2, E)
Jacen Aratan (1-2, E)
JaikoD'Kana (4-2, E)
Jaquen (0-2, E)
JavaGuy (1-2, E)
Jedi_Pimp (2-2, E)
Koushka (2-1, E)
Lancer007 (4-2, E)
Mace Window Kenobi (1-1, W)
Majno (1-2, E)
Masta (3-2, E)
ozzcoz (0-2, E)
Quiet Guardian (2-2, E)
PlooKoon (3-2, E)
Roan Belouve (2-2, E)
Setementor (1-2, E)
Squibit (0-2, E)
Scythus (2-1, E)
Tido Kenobi (1-2, E)

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Full Force
Congrats to Gradius for being our Full Force Champion!!!


Eliminated/Withdrawn
3th (0-2, E)
Carda Jowol (3-1, W)
Darkwood (2-1, W)
D@RtHM@UL (1-2, E)
ozzcoz (0-2, E)
Janus (1-1, W)
Jedi_Pimp (2-2, E)
Koushka (1-2, E)
Mace Window Kenobi (2-1, W)
Quiet Guardian (0-2, E)
Thomas Skywalker (2-2, E)
Setementor (2-2, E)
Squibit (2-2, E)

This post was edited by Tido on Dec 01 2004 12:13am.

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Dec 01 2004 12:14am

Tido
 - Student
 Tido

Round 8: No Force Loser's Bracket Championship

illian D'kana will be facing Sfire for the Loser's Bracket. The winner of this round will face Sauce in the Fall Open Championship!!!

Good Luck guys!!

This comment was edited by Orion on Dec 01 2004 12:21am.


Oct 27 2004 05:19pm

Setementor
 - Jedi Master
 Setementor

Quote:
Okay, so in round two I fight Delta. But I find two profiles for someone named Delta. ;)

If I were feeling cocky I'd offer to fight both of them. But I'm not.


Here you go. :)

Oct 27 2004 03:29pm

Masta
 - Jedi Council
 Masta

JaikoD'Kana vs Masta ended 3/1 for Jaiko.

Great Game Jaiko =)
Maybe too tense at some points lol...my heart went crazy sometimes...

Take Care
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Oct 27 2004 03:15pm

JavaGuy
 - Student
 JavaGuy

Okay, so in round two I fight Delta. But I find two profiles for someone named Delta. ;)

If I were feeling cocky I'd offer to fight both of them. But I'm not.
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Oct 27 2004 12:03pm

Antares
 - Student
 Antares

Carda won the NF duels 3-0 while I managed to win in FF 3-2.
Incredible duels there Carda!
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Oct 27 2004 10:13am

Tido
 - Student
 Tido

Round 2 ends at the end of Thursday, October 28th - sorry for the short timeframe, but time is not with us and we'll be ending past October 31st as it is :(.

Round 2 Lineup
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No Force - Winner's Bracket

Quiet Guardian
vs
D@mned

JaikoD'Kana
vs
Masta

Roan Belouve
vs
Lancer007

PlooKoon
vs
Setementor

Carda Jowol
vs
Mace Window Kenobi

Gradius
vs
Sauce

Delta
vs
JavaGuy

Sfire
vs
Tido

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No Force - Loser's Bracket

MonkaiMan
vs
Jacen Aratan

Majno
vs
Bail Hope Belouve

Darkwood
vs
Scythus

illianD'kana
vs
Squibit

Koushka
vs
Jaquen

Devlin
vs
3th

Jedi_Pimp
vs
ozzcoz

Italian Ice gets mercy this round because of the odd # of people in the bracket.

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Full Force - Winner's Bracket

Carda
vs
Mace Window Kenobi

Janus
vs
Thomas Skywalker

Gradius
vs
Darkwood

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Full Force - Loser's Bracker

ozzcoz
vs
Jedi_Pimp

D@rthm@ul
vs
3th

Quiet Guardian
vs
Squibit

Inter-Bracket Match
Koushka (1,0)
vs
Setementor (0,1)


After this round, at least 11 people will be eliminated from the tournament from 2 losses. For those of you in the winner's bracket, work hard to stay in there. For those of you in the loser's bracket, you have an uphill road to climb, and you cannot stumble. Fight hard everyone and keep it respectful :).

Good Luck!

This comment was edited by Tido on Oct 29 2004 09:27pm.

Oct 27 2004 06:07am

JavaGuy
 - Student
 JavaGuy

Peter and Paul are slated to fight. Peter figures he has about a 15% chance of winning if he fights, a 50% chance of winning the toss, and so doesn't show. The coin is tossed, and Paul wins anyway. Next match Paul is faced with another opponent who won his first match but doesn't want to face Paul and so goes with the coin toss. But this is Paul's second missed match, so he's outta there!

So arguably this system actually prevents the most skilled from reaching the top tier.

Quote:
I find it very difficult to believe that you'll have someone completely disapear on you twice.


Oh I can believe it can happen twice, and for the reasons I outline above I think it's most likely to happen to the best players.

Still, give the JA community a little credit. I think most people here are honorable and would rather lose fair and square.

Tido's right: There's no possible way to make everything go right. He has found an imperfect solution for an imperfect world. I can live with it.

So how'd my coin toss go? :)


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This comment was edited by JavaGuy on Oct 27 2004 06:10am.

Oct 27 2004 05:34am

Tido
 - Student
 Tido

Angel if I've learned anything about doing tourney's in this short experiance, it's that it will never go perfectly. There will always be extenuating circumstances. I think you're absolutely correct in your opinion, but I can't find a perfect solution. It has to be a matter of compromise.

However, this way I can ensure that people who are 'inactive' get filtered out and also prevent someone from using the coin toss to their advantage (example: Player A knows he will lose to Player B, so instead of fighting him he takes the 50/50 chance with a coin flip).

This way if you truely cannot make a match happen, it's ok and you'll have the benefit of a coin toss to move things along. But if you cannot make a match happen twice...well...then you probably shouldn't be in the tourney. The bad side of this is where on your second coin toss you're opponent goes AWOL and now you have to suffer for it. Well, that is exactly what will happen. What I suggest is that participants try their very best to prevent this from happening. We have multible ways to contact people here (e-mail, profiles, instant messengers) that I find it very difficult to believe that you'll have someone completely disapear on you twice. If you cannot make a match happen twice, I'm not going to punish the rest of the participants on your inconvience. And I also want to point out that if you know that you're the reason the match isn't going to happen, please forfeit the match - it's the honorable thing to do. The whole point of it all though is to discourage coin tosses and motivate people to not settle for them.

Also please understand that I am under some time constraints here as I have to finish this up quicky before November events begin. So it is important that things move along and the whole show isn't getting held up by any individual.

This comment was edited by Tido on Oct 27 2004 05:44am.

Oct 27 2004 05:01am

Sfire
 - Student
 Sfire

Yah but its also got to be done the way it is. This tourney, is well, basically to test skill and to have fun. And well, if every match, you say "I can't make it, just flip a coin," this can be a disadvantage to the player that wants to play. Its about skill, this tourney, and if you just keep haveing the coin flipped, there is no skill involved. I know there may be complications in the new rule, but I think it is needed. Just my opinion. :cool:
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Oct 27 2004 04:35am

AngelD'Kana
 - Ex-Student
 AngelD'Kana

Tido: The rule about elimination by a second coin flip can lead to an odd elimenation, you should just make the 1 rule that the final cannot be decided by a flip because you might complicate things otherwise.
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Oct 27 2004 02:58am

Janus
 - Retired
 Janus

Darthmaul has been unable to be got ahold of communicae wise. Haven't seen him on MSN nor anything on this forum. Let the coin flippin begin! ;)
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Oct 27 2004 02:45am

Tido
 - Student
 Tido

Adding 2 new rules:

If the results of your matches must be decided by a coin flip more than once, you are automatically eliminated from the tournament.

The final match cannot be decided by a coin toss.



Oct 26 2004 04:45pm

Antares
 - Student
 Antares

Hmm, well, I see the rules here state that the loser is to post the results, but I don't see Pimp anywhere around, so, and with all my apologies...

I won both NF and FF, 3-2 and 3-1 respectively. Great duels Pimp, that was very intense! :)
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Proud padawan to Obi-Wan Kenobi, Brother to Tido, Setementor, Jalune and Jana-Johauna


Oct 26 2004 03:56pm

Tido
 - Student
 Tido

You have 'until the end of tuesday' for whatever that means :P. So basically, you have until I wake up on Wednesday :P.

Oct 26 2004 03:24pm

JavaGuy
 - Student
 JavaGuy

Well it's me and Majno in this round, but we haven't managed to get together yet. :( I'm generally on after around 10:00 p.m. U.S. Eastern time. We have until midnight tonight, right?

Failing that, I call heads!
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Oct 26 2004 04:28am

Italian Ice
 - Student
 Italian Ice

Due to techincal problems, I'm going to have to forfet the first round to ploo, I'll be up and running in time for the second round.

Prediction of what woulda happned:

Ice Bows
Ploo Bows
Ploo dose red DFA and kills Ice 3 times in a row

PLOO RULES!!
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Oct 25 2004 09:51pm

SS/ph00d
 - Student
 SS/ph00d

Rockets everyone muahahhahahaha I WIN!!!! :D Good luck peeps. :P
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Oct 25 2004 08:41pm

Mikel Rider
 - Student
 Mikel Rider

Aw, I missed this one, I always mis the tourneys :C
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Oct 25 2004 08:39pm

Jacen Aratan
 - Student

Roan won over Aratan.

Oct 25 2004 07:19pm

Tido
 - Student
 Tido

theoretically :P, but it won't.

Oct 25 2004 11:13am

Masta
 - Jedi Council
 Masta

Quote:
If the two participants cannot get together to fight their matches, the winner will be decided by a coin toss.


Errr...so theoretically its possible to win the whole tourney without even doing one match yes? lol
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Oct 25 2004 10:03am

Tido
 - Student
 Tido

you don't have to post scores, just as long as you both agree on who won/lost.

Oct 25 2004 08:44am

Squibit
 - Student
 Squibit

Quote:
There are a few reasons for the scores, Squib. :P


Meaning that Tido needs to know them ?

If so it was 3-1 full force and 3-0 no force.
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Quote:
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Ah, things you only ever expect to hear once :)


Oct 25 2004 08:26am

3th
 - Retired
 3th

tido whooped me 3-0

great playing man, give me some lessons sometime soon :)
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Oct 25 2004 12:17am

Coogee
 - Student
 Coogee

RESULTS:
Koushka vs Quiet Guardian

winner NF: Quiet Guardian (3-2)
winner FF: Koushka (3-1)
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Oct 24 2004 07:38pm

Scythus Aratan
 - Student
 Scythus Aratan

No-Force
Scythus vs. Delta

Winner - Delta (3-2)

Congrats Delta!
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