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Single Sabers Overpowered?
Nov 24 2004 05:32pm

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:alliance:I like single sabers personally but the jump/overhead attack is kinda overpowered if you ask me. So ya cant really flame me for thinking that move is overpowered but yet it is good to take care of people who like to do the dual saber squattwister attack. I just dont like when there is someone constantly spamming the overhead attack.....I think IF there is any patches in the future that particular attack should be nerfed somewhat because there is ALOT of people that simply use the same single saber attacks and really doesnt give any purpose to the other 2 saber types (dual,staff).....just an opinion though...single saber users need not to flip their lids:P:alliance:
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This post was edited by Orion on Nov 24 2004 11:39pm.

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Dec 04 2004 06:17pm

DaRtH-MoBiLiTy
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 DaRtH-MoBiLiTy

I personally love the jump over head red, but people can def easily counter it. Stepping aside and DIAG DOWN BACK as to punt me over center field. BATTERS UP!!!!

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Dec 04 2004 06:13pm

Trelane
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 Trelane

I also agree there are some overpowered attacks, but they are all easily avoidable.

For example, the red overhead attack is deadly, so when I see a red user jump, I clear out of the way. 9 times out of 10 I manage to avoid it. Besides, knowing what your opponent is going to do actually is a tactical advantage in your favour.



This comment was edited by Trelane on Dec 04 2004 06:13pm.

Dec 04 2004 05:04pm

NotSoLittleCaesar
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 NotSoLittleCaesar

i agre it is SLIGHTLY over powerd, altho i have made a cutom little chart about power / speed (this is in m opinion ^^) its out of 15

Staff:
speed:|||||||||
power:||||||

Single Blue:
speed:||||||||||||
power:|||

single yellow:
speed: ||||||||
power: |||||||||

single red:
speed ||
power |||||||||||||

as you can see, only certain attacks of single are over powerd, red you must have good timing, you cant be infront of someone and get a straight head shot, its slow eneugh to them to move.




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This comment was edited by NotSoLittleCaesar on Dec 04 2004 05:14pm.

Nov 25 2004 11:16pm

jidai
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whenever you lose to someone constantly , you despair. forget about what they're doing. stand up again and find a way to destroy him.

Nov 25 2004 09:20am

Sauce
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 Sauce

there's this dude named Lost_Dirt who sorta started the whole overhead wiggling thing. all he ever do was overhead combos (overhead, left diagnal, summersault overhead). he's by far the best player i've seen with the overhead and even then there are people who can beat him with good consistency despite the fact that he only needs to hit ya twice to win. the point is: every move can be beaten no matter how damaging or accurate it is. the overhead is powerful but that's just the way this game is. but it makes sense though, getting hit upside teh head should leave quite a mark.

Nov 25 2004 08:32am

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 - Ex-Student

:alliance:Yeah I meant the overhead chop thing. Kinda bugs me how almost everytime I turn around someone is spamming that move....overheadslash...backflip....strafe left...backflip...overheadslash...etc....get my drift?:confused::alliance:
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Nov 25 2004 06:27am

jidai
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if you meant the dfa, it's not a 1 hit kill like in outcast. this move is almost useless in this game. if you meant the forward attack, i think it's not overpowered. it can easily be dodged. though it does do a lot of damage, but you have to aim it and it takes long to recover. it only works well if you run directly into it. it's better to test it out yourself.

Nov 25 2004 01:13am

JavaGuy
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 JavaGuy

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But hey, how many times are you going to survive if you get hit in the head with a saber? :p

Or any body part other than your limbs?


I've always thought that pretty much any hit with a sabre should incapacitate one. I actually think these games should not have "health points" at all, but rather a damage system based on a sort of a state machine. In any case, once you've been hit by a lightsabre, that should pretty much be all she wrote for the fight, even if it's not fatal.
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Nov 24 2004 11:36pm

o2b
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 o2b

But hey, how many times are you going to survive if you get hit in the head with a saber? :p

Or any body part other than your limbs?

Nov 24 2004 09:43pm

Gradius
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 Gradius

Perhaps these threads should go in the Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy Forum?
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Nov 24 2004 08:56pm

Throgun Donut
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 Throgun Donut

I think he might be talking about the move where you do a red overhead chop, then jump into the air when it hits the floor, so you get extra damage even after the swing is completed. That is kind of a silly exploit, seeing as the swing is finished, but it will still knock the enemy's swings aside and do a ridiculous amount of damage. However, it's still beatable.
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Nov 24 2004 08:39pm

Masta
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 Masta

Well...ppl use the saber style theyre most comfortable with.
Spamming only one attack over and over again will only lead to failure against more experienced players...ppl tend to quickly find out a counter against the most used combos/swings of the opponent. (its called adaption)

In my opinion...no saber style or swing is overpowerd though(maybe the butterfly a bit...hm...dunno).
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This comment was edited by Masta on Nov 24 2004 08:41pm.

Nov 24 2004 07:25pm

Squibit
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 Squibit

I thought he mean't the move where you do a forward overhead swing , just normaly not the RDFA ???

Reading it again maybe he did mean the RDFA :)

Btw, for the crouching duals move do you mean Barrier where you throw your sabres in the air and spin them around ?

Or perhaps Windmill/Flurry where you crouch down and spin your sabres in a "defensive" circle while still holding on to them , performed the same way as a blue-stance lunge ?
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Nov 24 2004 06:41pm

JavaGuy
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 JavaGuy

Plus, it's not a powerful attack like it was in JK2. RDFA is not an attack, like it was in JK2, but a mistake, and a bad one, that you make during a duel that lets your opponent get a free hit on you.

If any type of sabre were really underpowered compared to another, nobody would use that type. If singles were overpowered with respect to staff, nobody would use staff. If singles were overpowered with respect to dual sabres, nobody would use dual sabres. Yet look around, and you'll see people using all three types.
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Nov 24 2004 05:47pm

Scythus Aratan
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 Scythus Aratan

rdfa overpowered?
Cmon its the easiest move EVER to dodge, and it has a cooldown!
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Nov 24 2004 05:38pm

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:alliance:Butterfly! There I said it.:D Well It could go here too so it wont hurt anyone:P. I didnt know the name of that dual saber move anyways till just now.:alliance:
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Nov 24 2004 05:34pm

 
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This belongs in the JKA forum. :P

But, single saber being over-powered? Can anyone say BUTTERFLY? :P

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