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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student  |
Okay, I think I might have figured this one out open for debate of course  The Force is an entity, so it equals 1 The Light side = 0.5 The Dark Side = 0.5 Now, an equasion always is in balance, so both sides must be equal. If the equasion is brought into imbalance, it will balance itself again (see Matrix Reloaded to catch my drift completely  )Let us presume that for every dark sider, there is an equal lightsider let's presume that Darth Maul = Obi-Wan Kenobi There is balance Dooku = Anakin There is still balance Sidious = ...? no more balance The equasion tips over to the Dark Side, and there is imbalance Which is probably why Anakin had twins. Twice his power. And perhaps the power needed to destroy Sidious once and for all... What do you feel about this? _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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AgentCross - Ex-Student 
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The Prequel Jedi were overconfident and Arrogant so the "Force" made the darkside stronger. When Anakin kills all the Jedi and then Kills Palpatine the force goes back into balance and they equal out in power...the darkside can't cloud the force anymore like it could in Ep.2 Luke and his New Jedi Order arent arrogant and have a new respect for the Force....FYI I really dumped that down...Im too lazy to explain in detail...lol _______________ "There are no atheists in foxholes" isn't an argument against atheism, it's an argument against foxholes." - James Morrow "Nothing in life is so exhilarating as to be shot at without result." - Winston Churchill |
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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student 
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Quote: 1. deception and secrecy are the ways of the sith. Before and during the clonewars(remember at the end of episode 2, clone wars had only started) Darth Sidious spent much effort disguised as the leader of republic to cultivate Anakin's friendship(read articles at www.starwars.com). It is well known in the jedi world that Anakin Skywalker was conceived by the will of force. Obviously, it was Darth Sidious' ultimate plan take Anakin as his apprentice. 2. Once Anakin has converted, he was the main agent hunting down the jedi order. 3. Master Yoda(whose power we witnessed in ep 2) and Master Kenobi was forced to hide untill the skywalkers grew up. Therefore, dooku cannot equal to Anakin in power! Once Anakin completes his training, he will be the most powerful force user to walk the earth. Only a skywalker could defeat him. Otherwise, master yoda and master kenobi wouldn't have had to hid all this time to wait till the skywalkers grow up. Dooku cannot be compared with Anakin! That old pathetic puny of a man! I bet in Episode 3, Anakin kicks his ass. And don't tell me that sidious equals Anakin cuz Anakin killed him without a saber and with his right hand missing. hahaha! I could push you down a ravine with one hand too. Doesn't make me stronger than you, now does it?  _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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thewind - Student |
1. deception and secrecy are the ways of the sith. Before and during the clonewars(remember at the end of episode 2, clone wars had only started) Darth Sidious spent much effort disguised as the leader of republic to cultivate Anakin's friendship(read articles at www.starwars.com). It is well known in the jedi world that Anakin Skywalker was conceived by the will of force. Obviously, it was Darth Sidious' ultimate plan take Anakin as his apprentice. 2. Once Anakin has converted, he was the main agent hunting down the jedi order. 3. Master Yoda(whose power we witnessed in ep 2) and Master Kenobi was forced to hide untill the skywalkers grew up. Therefore, dooku cannot equal to Anakin in power! Once Anakin completes his training, he will be the most powerful force user to walk the earth. Only a skywalker could defeat him. Otherwise, master yoda and master kenobi wouldn't have had to hid all this time to wait till the skywalkers grow up. Dooku cannot be compared with Anakin! That old pathetic puny of a man! I bet in Episode 3, Anakin kicks his ass. And don't tell me that sidious equals Anakin cuz Anakin killed him without a saber and with his right hand missing. hahaha! |
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Rogue - Student 
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There were a LOT more than 200 jedi, its just when mace went to geonosis, only 200 were available immediately _______________ I was a child when I joined the JA...scary. This comment was edited by Rogue on Dec 17 2004 05:15pm. |
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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student 
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Quote: Well, that can't really be exact. I mean, the "power" of any two Jedi and Sith can't be exactly the same. And you said that Anakin = Dooku, but didn't Dooku beat the crap out of Anakin?  Think of Episode 3 and catch my drift Quote: I think I agree with Buzz on this though. It's the whole American struggle between good and evil plot. Everything is better again when the bad guys are gone. Yeah, I have to admit that Buzz's theory isn't bad at all I like it _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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Mookie - Ex-Student 
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Quote: Also, my theory means that Anakin did bring the Force into balance... I disagree as well. Because the force flows through every living being and doesn't limit itself to the Jedi or Sith (people who know how to use the force, which is not the same thing), I consider the prophecy more universal than specific; the eternal struggle of darkness and light in the Star Wars universe. Anakin destroyed the balance with his radical methods in hunting down a great deal of 'lightsiders' (both Jedi and non-Jedi), his son restored the balance. |
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Ashyr - Student 
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Quote: I disagree. Don't get me wrong, I agree, but I disagree at the same time I don't want you to see in numbers, I want you to see it like "power". Well, that can't really be exact. I mean, the "power" of any two Jedi and Sith can't be exactly the same. And you said that Anakin = Dooku, but didn't Dooku beat the crap out of Anakin? I think I agree with Buzz on this though. It's the whole American struggle between good and evil plot. Everything is better again when the bad guys are gone. _______________ Top ten reasons to get a better computer...|My fan This comment was edited by Ashyr on Dec 17 2004 03:31pm. |
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WolfyJowol - Student 
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does this make sense to a prior messgae? Anakin brought back the balance in some essence but he was shadow not really light or dark. Hence he was a main cause or a flexible part of the equation of balance/inbalance issue  WolfyJowol |
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NotSoLittleCaesar - Student 
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tbh obi got owned by maul :> the only reason maul died is becasue he got cocky, all he needed to do is cut his hands :| _______________ Quote: I mostly agree oh Lord of the squeezy mop
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Buzz - Student 
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I would disagree. I think that so long as their are Sith in existence the Force is not in balance. Their nature is consumption control domination of the Force. The Sith tap into the raw power of the Force and abuse its power. The Jedi are about controlled usage of the Force. They don't seek to control the power of the Force. They seek control of their usage only. The way of the Jedi is in balance with the Force. So when the destruction of the Sith occurs the Force will return to balance, whether there is Jedi, 2 Jedi, or 100,000 Jedi. With the Sith gone, the balance exists. And as long as the Anakin Skywalker's descendants continue to keep the balance by stopping all threats of the Sith, the Chosen One brings balance to the Force and the Prophecy is fulfilled. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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Proximo - Student 
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Quote: I : About 200 Jedi, 2 Sith (Sidious, Darth Maul) II : About 50 Jedi(after Genosis), 2 sith (Sidious, Dooku) I read somewhere that there were like 10,000 jedi before Geonosis  _______________ Gladiators, I salute you. |
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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student
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Quote: I : About 200 Jedi, 2 Sith (Sidious, Darth Maul) II : About 50 Jedi(after Genosis), 2 sith (Sidious, Dooku) III : Not completely sure IV : 2 Jedi (Obi Wan, Yoda), 2 sith (Sidious, Vader) V : 1 Jedi (Yoda), 2 Sith (Sidious, Vader) VI : 1 Jedi (Luke), 0 Sith I disagree. Don't get me wrong, I agree, but I disagree at the same time I don't want you to see in numbers, I want you to see it like "power". It is supposed to balance itself out (look at Matrix Reloaded, why there are hundreds of Agent Smiths all of a sudden. Because Neo is THAT powerful. The equasion is trying to balance itself. The Architect says it himself at the end of the movie.) Why would Yoda = Sidious? We can't tell for sure at this moment. For all we know, Sidious is gonna kick the crap out of Yoda in Episode 3. Time will tell. But I don't believe Yoda is equally or more powerful than Sidious. But that's just my vision. Quote: Although noone can defeat Darth Maul offcourse, Obi-Wan just cheated.  Following that presumption, there still would be imbalance, since everyone shifts exactly one place, so that there still is no one to fight Sidious. Maybe we'll get an answer in Ep. 3!! _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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D@RtHM@UL - Student 
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Quote: since Obi-Wan had to bring in the rage to be able to defeat him ... Using purely his own powers he would not have defeated Maul. Rage my butt. Darth Maul got lamed. Obi Wan was just hanging there on the ledge, and the second Darth Maul put his chatbox up, BAM! Anyway, I think this theory is a little earie (ha, that rhymed). Mathematically, it wasn't really ever balanced. Except maybe in EP IV. I : About 200 Jedi, 2 Sith (Sidious, Darth Maul) II : About 50 Jedi(after Genosis), 2 sith (Sidious, Dooku) III : Not completely sure IV : 2 Jedi (Obi Wan, Yoda), 2 sith (Sidious, Vader) V : 1 Jedi (Yoda), 2 Sith (Sidious, Vader) VI : 1 Jedi (Luke), 0 Sith Indeed lol, 200 Jedi should really > 2 Sith IMO Although noone can defeat Darth Maul offcourse, Obi-Wan just cheated. |
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Setementor - Jedi Master 
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Quote: Sidious = Yoda Yup |
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Ashyr - Student
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Quote: since Obi-Wan had to bring in the rage to be able to defeat him ... Using purely his own powers he would not have defeated Maul. Rage my butt. Darth Maul got lamed. Obi Wan was just hanging there on the ledge, and the second Darth Maul put his chatbox up, BAM! Anyway, I think this theory is a little earie (ha, that rhymed). Mathematically, it wasn't really ever balanced. Except maybe in EP IV. I : About 200 Jedi, 2 Sith (Sidious, Darth Maul) II : About 50 Jedi(after Genosis), 2 sith (Sidious, Dooku) III : Not completely sure IV : 2 Jedi (Obi Wan, Yoda), 2 sith (Sidious, Vader) V : 1 Jedi (Yoda), 2 Sith (Sidious, Vader) VI : 1 Jedi (Luke), 0 Sith _______________ Top ten reasons to get a better computer...|My fan |
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Plo Koon - Student 
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Well obiwan used rage until the end,when he calmed himself and used the force. Sidius < Anikan _______________ Free Tibet! Click this link,and learn Here too |
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D@RtHM@UL - Student
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Sidious = Yoda Darth Maul <3 Obi-Wan btw |
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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student
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no, actually they are in my theory anyway since Obi-Wan had to bring in the rage to be able to defeat him ... Using purely his own powers he would not have defeated Maul. Also, my theory means that Anakin did bring the Force into balance, because he was the one who killed Sidious/Emperor, eliminating the threat, and bringing balance again _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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Charly - Student 
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Darth Maul can't equal Obi-Wan Kenobi or else Maul wouldn't have fallen against him. |
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Fire - Student 
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Aye, this is extremely confusing. I was thinking more as, as long as there are no darksiders, that the force would be in balance. The thing is, last summer or so, i read this book (new jedi order series) with some jedi named Verger(sp?). Now, Verger basically states that there is no such thing as a "dark side" or "light side" of the force, only what the user feels upon it. Now if this were the case, this would totally ruin the force balance concept. If this were to be true, what exactly does "balance" in the force mean? |
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Majno - Padawan 
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Interesting....ponders...... _______________ " You've just taken your first steps into a larger world. " - Ben. |
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delta - Student 
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Interesting thought. _______________ ~Dav Proud Former Padawan of 3th |
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[IGC]ShadowHunter - Student |
interesting thought, i hadnt thought about it that way before... _______________ Fear the Hunters...Watch your back... Never enter the Shadows... |
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Proximo - Student 
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Hmm, not sure I quite understand, If every darksider has an equal lightsider, than every lightsider would need an equal darksider to maintain the balance. If Dooku = Anakin, than Sidious would have to = all the other lightside people still around combined to keep a balance. _______________ Gladiators, I salute you. |
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Garos - Student 
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ooooh *agreement* |
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