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_Muro_ - Student  |
Hey there dudes  I wanted to learn a bit of swordfighting. I have a Katana [not real one of course, it's poor replica but I think it's a good one to train], so everybody that wants to help me please guide me to any links that are about technics of swordfighting [Iaido etc.] I want links with videos or pics, cause I'm bit slow  P.S. Oh... and everyone that think they can learn me something, please post here too  I'll be really glad.P.S.2 Tell me what do you think of swordfighting BTW, do you think it's crazy thing to do it in this era or is it fun. Thanks in advice _______________ *Proud comment owner of: Dash Starlight's - 700th, Buster Senatu's - 100th, Yuken Zalak's - 250th, Laziana's - 100th, Para's - 75th, Zeke Asakura's - 800th! |
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The Dragon Reborn - Student 
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I've got a Tai-chi sword. And im not talking replicas here, it's a practical training sword, carbon steel blade, ect ect ect. if u'r in uk, and looking for a good place to get swords, axes, knives, spears and so on, go to google and type in 'Blades UK' _______________ Padawan to Solitude "Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, and hate leads to... suffering" -Jedi Master Yoda "I shall not fear. Fear is the mind killer. Fear is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will allow it to pass over me and through me, and when it has gone i will turn my inner eye to see its path. Where fear has gone there will be nothing. Only i will remain." -Bene Gesserit Litany, Dune |
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Monteeeeeee - Nugget 
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cant beat a good fight to settle your differences with people i aint lost any yet _______________ If you add me to MSN, tell me who you are
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_Muro_ - Student 
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Nero I guess you didn't understand me, maybe it's because I'm retarded or/and I didn't wrote post as it should be hah.. lol.. :] I want to learn Martial Arts not for fun or to be cool, I want to learn it for self-defence Quote: i've done a bit of judo myself for about 4 months (it was a school class, nothing very serious but still, we had the basics and stuff) and from what ive experienced, i couldn't use it with some "kind" of opponents. See, i 5"10 and i weight around 135lbs, making me skinny, and when i trained with people over 180 lbs i had trouble applying the throws and such.. plus i noticed the [basic] immobilizatons left you with so much open spots that i quickly forgot the idea of using those judo basics in the street [if needed too(i'm coming to that point in a short moment)] when I started Aikido, (it was for a self-defense motive, but that too was quickly put aside when i saw what it was truly about) i noticed that even though i was skinny i could easily take control of a man bigger, stronger than me and that without spending all my energy. That also made me realise how dangerous Aikido is, one blow could kill someone with ease and every single technique, applied differently, can break the limb it's focused on. I'm a skinny and short guy as well :| So Judo isn't for me, I don't like violence, I have never fought with anyone for real, I'm trying to avoid fights and any violence. I couldn't normally throw guy taller and much more massive than me. I'm 5"7 and my weight is about 115 lbs, so as you can see guy like 180 lbs could kill me easily  Kay there aren't any Dojos in my town, nearest Dojo is in the Warsaw I think, but it's about 70 km from my town and getting there absorbs about 1,5 hour also my father wouldn't wait for me for about an hour till' I'll finish classes I hope you'll understand me now _______________ *Proud comment owner of: Dash Starlight's - 700th, Buster Senatu's - 100th, Yuken Zalak's - 250th, Laziana's - 100th, Para's - 75th, Zeke Asakura's - 800th!
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Sared - Retired 
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Pick up Period fencing first. It is fast, intenst, and instills accuracy and speed. I did it for almost a year and I had never been in better shape in my life. Sadly though, I haven't been able to do it in months because of work/school and whatnot. Still, you'll be able to find someone teaching Foil/Epee/Sabre lessons sooner than you will find someone teaching Kendo. Try it, ya might like it. _______________ I'm crazy, not stupid. |
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Kay Matar - Student 
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Oh my bad then Nero (now i feel stupid quoting you and talking about Kuzushi  ) but to come back on what you said, i've done a bit of judo myself for about 4 months (it was a school class, nothing very serious but still, we had the basics and stuff) and from what ive experienced, i couldn't use it with some "kind" of opponents. See, i 5"10 and i weight around 135lbs, making me skinny, and when i trained with people over 180 lbs i had trouble applying the throws and such.. plus i noticed the [basic] immobilizatons left you with so much open spots that i quickly forgot the idea of using those judo basics in the street [if needed too(i'm coming to that point in a short moment)] when I started Aikido, (it was for a self-defense motive, but that too was quickly put aside when i saw what it was truly about) i noticed that even though i was skinny i could easily take control of a man bigger, stronger than me and that without spending all my energy. That also made me realise how dangerous Aikido is, one blow could kill someone with ease and every single technique, applied differently, can break the limb it's focused on. For Nero commenting Muro on "what you should or should not practise for" was accurate, he nailed it right on, and i think it should make think all other people who wants to start Martial Arts for the worng purposes. Those are truly dangerous, alot if you study in a place where they encourage that "That X art is about destroying the opponent". That's maily why I like Aikido better, it's a peaceful Martial Art that teaches you to deal with life problems, not by violence, because the techniques are secondary, in my Aikido style the training is focused on achieving to build a state of mind that will help deal with those problems without using the techniques. In other words, violence is only a last resort sorry for the long essay once again, i hope it will make you reconsider somethings Muro. What i suggest is that you talk about it with your parents and try to find the local dojos around and just "shop around" take their brochures and read them carefully, after make your own choices and remember that no martial art is better or worst "The mountain doesnt laugh of the river because it is lowly, nor the river makes fun of the mountain because it can't move around !" - Old Japanese Proverb _______________ Former Senior Padawan to Luke Skywalker, Aquainted to SmilyKrazy, Koyi Donita, Virtue, Mace Windu ...Friend to (SKX)Dark Blade, Jello'/ If I forgot you come and hit me ! |
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Ulic |retired| - Student 
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You call that long hair? _______________ Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam |
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Nero - Student 
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haha, my last post shouldn't be taken that seriously Kay Matar, however I apreciate the fact you really read the stuff Now about my own experiences with Martial arts. I myself, have done quite a lot of them, to name them: Jiu Jiutsu, Aikido, Judo and Ninpo (like 5 lesssons karate too but they are not important). For the matter of selfdefence I must say Judo basicly works the best of the five. The difference between Aikido and Judo is basicly the way how they are practiced, Aikido is more focused on perfection while Judo aims more on plain use. O yeah, Judo is dangerous, I've learned to break necks, backs, legs, arms and choke people up at those classes, and no those moves have not been added later. JuiJiutsu, is very simmular to Judo nowadays. It used to be a sport far nastier, scratching and biting etc. was alowed. Now they're illegal it is basicly Judo as Judo is invented to have a sport you could practice without biting and the nasty things. Now Muro, the reasons you're giving to start martial arts are basicly not the ones you should have. A martial art studied and practiced to the highest degree is extremely dangerous when used wrongly or at people not used to it. When I do something I very commonly do at judo class without anyone having a problem on the street to someone untrained will probably make the person break something. I quess I'm trying to say is that you should practice a fighting sport for having fun there, not to use it on the streets. nor to make you look cool. O yeah, about the long hair, I've got long hair too, long hair rocks  _______________ -Nero Quote: Curious, Smartass, what else? This comment was edited by Nero on Jan 17 2005 04:13pm. |
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_Muro_ - Student 
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I don't know Aikido Wicek, I fought with ŻohoŚ with swords :] _______________ *Proud comment owner of: Dash Starlight's - 700th, Buster Senatu's - 100th, Yuken Zalak's - 250th, Laziana's - 100th, Para's - 75th, Zeke Asakura's - 800th!
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Wicek - Nugget 
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I didn't knew that u know aikido When we will meet u must show me some moves LOL! |
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_Muro_ - Student
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I know Aikido would be much more helpful as a defence, but I want to learn some techniques of japanese swrdfighting cuz' I don't think many people in Poland are interested in it, many of people that likes japan and anceint history, samurais, martial arts doesn't practice it. They just want to learn Karate, Taekwondo, Aikido or Judo to be cool and present how cool are they cause they know martial arts. I want to learn Aikido as a self-defence cuz' there are many thughs in my sql and many of them are seeking to kick my ass cuz' of my hair lenght ( [Yeah I know, most of Polish people are intolerant ] also I want to learn some techniques of sword swinging just for fun, I was playing with my friend yesterday, he took his swords [cuz' my katana went down and broke ... ] and we fought each other for a little time SORRY FOR SPELLING ! _______________ *Proud comment owner of: Dash Starlight's - 700th, Buster Senatu's - 100th, Yuken Zalak's - 250th, Laziana's - 100th, Para's - 75th, Zeke Asakura's - 800th!
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Ecks - Student 
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The "cool factor" is eye candy. If you're going to take swordfighting, chances are it's for recreation, not practical application. It's not like cops will overlook a guy carrying a katana down the street. As for the proficiency of arts, you have to look at the context. People nowadays are much stronger than they were back in the feudal ages. What worked then might not work now. Obviously, then, modern arts will work better, except for the occasional art, such as Muay Thai and Sanda, that are still very effective, and are quite ancient. _______________ "To become a greater man, you must be a lesser one first." |
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Kay Matar - Student 
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Quote: Kendo > Aikido though if it comes to coolness. Aikido is more like, judo-ish and is meant to be very usefull instead of just looking cool. sure but it's like saying the ancient arts (Ju-Jutsu, Daito-Ryu-Aiki-jutsu, Ken-Jutsu etc.) are more proeficient than the new ones - for example, Daito-Ryu is the direct ancestor to Aikido. The ancient art was perfomed by samurais to defend themselves with bare hands. Now samurais did wear big ass armours to protect themsleves, therefore Daito-Ryu was mostly an art where you stay very stable and throw your opponent around. Today we don't wera those kinds of armour anymore, in Aikido we have alot of moving around to create "Kuzushi" (distabalising your opponent). If someone we're to use Daito-Ryu in a fight today, that person would probably have more trouble being the victor. My main point is that you won't really have Kendo fights on the street - but maybe you will have hand to hand fights, and that's where Aikido gets on top ...and you would actually be surprised on how "cool-looking" aikido can be I don't want to discuss about the Judo issue, it's a derivated form of Ju-Jutsu in which the dangerous moves have been eliminated or modified for better fitting of the "sport aspect". Some people even think Judo lives through the performance of the atheletes, and that's bs IMO pfffew ! _______________ Former Senior Padawan to Luke Skywalker, Aquainted to SmilyKrazy, Koyi Donita, Virtue, Mace Windu ...Friend to (SKX)Dark Blade, Jello'/ If I forgot you come and hit me ! |
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Nero - Student
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Kendo > Aikido though if it comes to coolness. Aikido is more like, judo-ish and is meant to be very usefull instead of just looking cool. _______________ -Nero Quote: Curious, Smartass, what else? |
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Tido - Student 
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I understand that Janiriki is quite the swordsman, you might want to ask him. |
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Kay Matar - Student
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I actually train in Yoseikan style Aikido and i'll be getting a bokken (wooden katana) for my b-day for suburi training . We do train later on with katana katas in that Aikido style. you should google up for some Iaido or some Katori-Shinto-Ryu on top of the Kendo link Virtue told you _______________ Former Senior Padawan to Luke Skywalker, Aquainted to SmilyKrazy, Koyi Donita, Virtue, Mace Windu ...Friend to (SKX)Dark Blade, Jello'/ If I forgot you come and hit me ! |
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solitude - Jedi Council 
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swordfighting is fun if you just want to learn the sword, the easiest start can be saber fencing. however, in martial arts the weapons are merely an extension of the arm, learning wing chun or similar would be good. _______________ Joined 16 October 2004 | Retired 10 April 2005 | Returned 05 June 2008 | Made Staff 27 June 2008 | Made Council 18 January 2009 Padawan To Odan-Wei Belouve | Adopted into the Belouve family | Twin to xAnAtOs | Owner of the 4th Quesi sexy badge Brother To Roan Belouve, Nomad, Majno, Silkmonkey, Kensei and Jarhok Belouve
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Nero - Student
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I used to have Ninpo classes, this should give you a quick start, realise though that ninpo is something freaking serious, one wrong move and your partner is gone. http://www.ninpo.org/ For the more civilised fighting I'd reccomend Kendo, this can not really be trained without the proper master though _______________ -Nero Quote: Curious, Smartass, what else? |
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Raider - Student 
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Swordfighting is....... in lack of a fitting word, godly I train it a lot, just playing around outside with a woodend katana, it's quite fun . Bought some models shaped like the human upper body to give training a little boost . Whenever i get time i will start looking for a place to train, my backyard isn't perfect _______________ Artificial intelligence beats natural stupidity. |
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Virtue - Jedi Council 
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http://www.kendo-world.com/ And watch this video - Virtue.  _______________ Academy Architect This comment was edited by Virtue on Jan 14 2005 10:37am. |
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Duffman - Student 
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what he said, but i fence for fun. I've gotten to the point that only the new ppl in the class, and 1 of the instructors will fight me lol Its not that im better then they are, far from it in some cases, but i fence with a saber (cavelry not light ) and im lefthanded. So its a tad harder for some people to fight agaisnt me. That, and saber hurts.....more then the other weapons......becase it isnt just for stabing like the others, slashes count as hits and there are times i dont care if i get hit, so long as you are less willing to hit me the next time which gives me more time to react if they are hesitant to go all the way hehehe.don't fight me, im vicious _______________ *Sigh* Married to Mirael D'kana, Former master to Shangri Stomwind and Crash D'Kana, Owner of Gil-Galad's 100th post, Khâ D'Kana's 700th post, and friend to just about everyone |
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Devlin - Student 
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the best way that you can learn any type of weapon focus is to find a martial arts dojo that specializes in training for the specific weapon you're interested in. Finding such a place can be difficult but the do exist. A much easier approach to learning sword-play would to find some fencing lessons. Granted, it's not the type of sword-play you're looking for, but it gives a good base knowledge and key elements. I had to take fencing lessons becuase I was in a play and the director wanted our fight scene to be absolutely awesome. After going through a few months of lessons I felt a lot more confident picking up any type of sword,and I pretty much bent everything i learned and made it my own style _______________ Be at peace, and you will discover things you never dreamed possible. |
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JavaGuy - Student 
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Swordfighting or fencing? They're not the same thing despite superficial similarities. _______________ My signature is only one line. You're welcome. |
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Ecks - Student
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I'd personally google it for videos. Just a suggestion; vids can only help you so much. Since you have a katana, perhaps you might start looking for kenjutsu classes. Watching vids is good for starting, but if you want to really learn something about the sword arts, take a class in it. Again, it's just a suggestion... BTW, even though I haven't taken swordfighting arts, I love swords; the day they made guns was the worst day of my life. _______________ "To become a greater man, you must be a lesser one first." |
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_Muro_ - Student
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Sorry for the spelling, I'm a little sleepy and I couldn't get my thoughts into one piece ( Sorry again :/ _______________ *Proud comment owner of: Dash Starlight's - 700th, Buster Senatu's - 100th, Yuken Zalak's - 250th, Laziana's - 100th, Para's - 75th, Zeke Asakura's - 800th!
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Cheta T. Must - Student 
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Well your spelling is a little messed up. but thats off topic . i dont know any links but i can say taht swordfighting's awesome. i dont train in it [lazy maybe later] but my friend takes fencing class |
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