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Is this true about Hilts??
Feb 10 2005 12:03am

Dachande
 - Student
Dachande
do different Hilts...(that came with the game) have diff abilities...like have advantages and weaknesses...like one hilt good with yellow...but sux with red...and one is moderate all around hilt...just asking...
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This post was edited by Aron on Feb 10 2005 11:02am.

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Feb 12 2005 06:20am

Rinzler
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 Rinzler

yes gradius, the kiddies who run JA+ and like to upload their own sabers and use them against people.


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Feb 12 2005 01:34am

Masta
 - Jedi Council
 Masta

Still, even if the maul staff is longer and the reborn hilt is shorter...im very sure it doesnt make any difference in range or whatsoever on JA servers.

Besides...SP is something very different compared to MP.
If you put any modified saber into ur base folder and use it in SP...then its gonna be available with its own modifications without further need of configuration like...uploading it to the server.

Oh and...maybe Desann has an increased-range-saber...but even if he wouldnt have it...im sure he would be as tough as he is now.
Lets just say his erm...abilities to block, parry, switch stances, hit and...evade...are extremly errr...good =)
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Feb 11 2005 09:45pm

Gradius
 - Ex-Student
 Gradius

Quote:
you can make your own modified sabers, i've seen people on impure public servers use them


True. However, if it's modifed in any way to make the blade longer or cut down deflections and whatnot, it won't work unless the pk3 is added to the server. For instance, there is a saber mod called Wang Saber, which has 2 blades stretching about 1/2 of the map. You can't use this on an inpure server unless the server itself has it. It will show up in your hilt selection, but if you try to use it, you will only get the reborn hilt and standard blade. It all depends on what modifications are made.

If someone took a standard hilt, copied the file, then edited it to their own liking, they could simply add that to their base folder and it will overwrite the default hilt, much like Virtue did with the Luke Skywalker hilt. That could then be used on any unpure server, or a pure one with the file added to it.
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Feb 11 2005 08:36am

Rinzler
 - Student
 Rinzler

the maul staff hilt is longer
reborn hilt is shorter
if what masta is saying was true then desaan would have been the easiest boss in the world.

you can make your own modified sabers, i've seen people on impure public servers use them
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Feb 10 2005 01:49pm

The Dragon Reborn
 - Student
 The Dragon Reborn

I've seen a mod that gives each hilt its own properties, as in speed, damage, blocking ect.
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Feb 10 2005 11:45am

 
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Quote:
JA: 12
Masta: 2

gg

Close.


Noooo...

JJ - 82359828456826485309847234000000
The World - 0

:D

Feb 10 2005 11:40am

Masta
 - Jedi Council
 Masta

JA: 12
Masta: 2

gg

Close.
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Feb 10 2005 11:15am

 
 - Student

Quote:
No...

The only advantage/disadvantage you may gain through this, is confusion.
The look or length of the saber will under no circumstances affect the damage-range...

Lets say, your saber is longer then usual...then it still will do the same amount of damage on the same amount of range as a standart katarn-hilt.Your opponent may be visually tricked by your saber and get confused from time to time...but there wont be any difference in range or damage.

The only way to affect the damage or range of sabers would be through the servers cfg files, which only admins have access to.You CANNOT change it for only 1 user...that means (in example) Virtue would NOT be able to change the cfg in a way that only he would have an enhanced damage/range saber.If any admin changes any value in the cfg, then it will be applied to ALL users.

Oh and...there are no hacks.

Thank you


Yeah, Masta is wrong here. For example, I was messing around, and made a lightsaber mod that made one of the hilts have a blade about 4 times the length of a normal one. I spawned a couple of Stormtroopers, and managed to saber them from preeeeetty far away. :P

The saber length DOES have an affect on the range. The damage is pretty much the same, though.

Feb 10 2005 11:01am

Gradius
 - Ex-Student
 Gradius

I'm not entirely sure about that Masta. I was always told that the reason we only use certain custom hilts on our servers are because some hilts do in fact modify certain aspects of the blade. No, it won't do more damage, that is a given. But from what I've head they can sometimes affect the range as well as blocking. As long as the saber cfg file is modified to be that way, and it is loaded into the server, then it's very well possible I assume. However, I'm sure that every custom hilt we have has been tested, and any future ones will be too.
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Feb 10 2005 10:43am

Masta
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 Masta

No...

The only advantage/disadvantage you may gain through this, is confusion.
The look or length of the saber will under no circumstances affect the damage-range...

Lets say, your saber is longer then usual...then it still will do the same amount of damage on the same amount of range as a standart katarn-hilt.Your opponent may be visually tricked by your saber and get confused from time to time...but there wont be any difference in range or damage.

The only way to affect the damage or range of sabers would be through the servers cfg files, which only admins have access to.You CANNOT change it for only 1 user...that means (in example) Virtue would NOT be able to change the cfg in a way that only he would have an enhanced damage/range saber.If any admin changes any value in the cfg, then it will be applied to ALL users.

Oh and...there are no hacks.

Thank you
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This comment was edited by Masta on Feb 10 2005 10:48am.

Feb 10 2005 09:38am

Dash Starlight
 - Jedi Instructor
 Dash Starlight

A Reborn hilt seems to have a smaller blade than, for example, a Katarn. Is that true, do you have a disadvantage with a Reborn when you face a Katarn? I always wondered about that ^^
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Feb 10 2005 01:16am

ozzcoz
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 ozzcoz

Actually we do have some custom hilt paks on the servers. The one that particularly comes to mind is the maul hilt, on which each blade is as long as a single saber blade, however this is longer than a standard staff. Hence anyone who uses this hilt has a definite range advantage, compared to a normal staff like the ones which came with the game.

This could easily be fixed by going and editing one of the configuration files in the pak, however only the original author should do this, otherwise we all end up with invalid pk3 errors. I personally think the pak which contains this hilt should be removed, however it has been discussed before and nothing was done.
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Feb 10 2005 12:18am

Ash
 - Eats Babies
 Ash

All hilts that came with the game are the same. Ones off the internet might have advantages though. Such as longer blades. And that's why we don't have em on the servers.
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Feb 10 2005 12:13am

solitude
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 solitude

no :)
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