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Jedi Knight 4
Mar 06 2005 05:35pm

Elyk Yarbel
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Just wanted to know if/when there will be a Jedi Knight 4 as in my oppinion I think the star wars eps 3 game looks a bit like a JK game so could it be the replacement? :S

ps. The eps 3 game looks crappy :)
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Mar 10 2005 05:25pm

VirusD
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hmmm ...lol like kotor2 , JA is definitly a jk2.5 :P

Theres always hope that when and if jk4 comes ,it will be better , but i am sure they will find a nother way to disepoint us in every way known to a jk player :P
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Mar 10 2005 01:25pm

SaZ
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 SaZ

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if they make a new Jedi knight game they need to make it more like jk2 :P it was sooooooo much better than JK3 :P


well if you talk about singleplayer... maybe :)
but... most of levels were almost the same :o
thats why i replayed bespin and yavin4 levels over and over... but thats only 1/10 of game...
game needs variety of things which we can see in jk3...
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Mar 10 2005 11:11am

Hive
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 Hive

Sorry daddy.:o

Mar 10 2005 10:13am

Masta
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 Masta

Watch your language, son. =)
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Mar 10 2005 09:32am

Hive
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 Hive

Lucasarts are a bunch of arseholes, really. They don't give a damn thing about their fanbase, only thing on their mind is $$$. It annoys me greatly.

It also annoys me how they seemingly try to prevent interesting mods for their games whenever they can; probably in order to make their game die out quicker, and thus be able to launch a new, similar and equally unfinished product to replace it - thus making more money.

I can't by the love of God understand why they are eg. being such copyright whores that they won't even allow a model/skin port from one of their games to another. What possible harm could that EVER do to them? Meh. :/

Mar 10 2005 07:40am

Monteeeeeee
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if they make a new Jedi knight game they need to make it more like jk2 :P it was sooooooo much better than JK3 :P
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Mar 09 2005 02:20pm

SaZ
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 SaZ

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The EA ppl dont make games themselves.

They are just a publisher that buys licences and hires developers.


but still the games they publish are getting
worse and worse... thats happenin to LA too i guess...
hmmm they released republic commando (a very good game) so maybe they will make some more quality games...
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Mar 09 2005 09:37am

Masta
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 Masta

Well the main difference between the Kotor series and the JK series is that erm...in all jk games, you pretty much control your character during combat.You have to swing yourself and use force yourself instead of using simple commands to let your character fight on his own.
So it requires a bit more skill.Lets say, you visit a friend whos got Kotor and a very high lvl character.He lets you play a bit on his comp with his savegame and you just pretty much own without having any troubles...
But if you visit an experienced jk3 player and he lets you play on his comp with his configs and so on...its gonna pretty much depend on your own experiences if youre gonna own or not.
Besides...every JK is mainly based on FPS standarts and im sure that if theres ever gonna be a jk4, then its gonna stay true to its prequels and use the same principle of combat.
Oh and erm...Kotor is a RPG and has no multiplayer =P
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Mar 09 2005 09:18am

Acey Spadey
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jk4...

kotor = jk4?

kotor2 = jk5?

they both involve you turning into a jedi knight don't they
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Mar 08 2005 10:27pm

Masta
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 Masta

The EA ppl dont make games themselves.

They are just a publisher that buys licences and hires developers.
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Mar 08 2005 07:18pm

SaZ
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they only think about money :mad:


One day you will too ;). Those LA guys have kids just like you, and they want to be able to feed those kids :P!


yeah i know but that doesnt mean that every gamemaker should do crappy games like EAgames do...
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Mar 08 2005 11:27am

Nitram
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Think about it. LA has to see this coming.

The end of the Star Wars Saga! Episode III. This will be one of, if not the most highly anticepated movies in cinema history. Not to mention the possibility that it could BLOW AWAY any and all records in sales. Star Wars is one of few Movies/Stories that has strongly effected multiple generations all over the world.

As for Lightsaber fighting. Well we all know what Ep.III is gonna bring to the table!:eek:
Yeah they have to see this coming!

And theres is A LOT more that they could put into JK4! some of my ideas:

1.Manual Blocking/Parry System-No more running around each other as much. Get close, get personal, get wicked! The fastest and more coordinated duelist, wins.
2.Add Advanced Fighting Styles-Right now we have Red, Yellow, and Blue. How about The same 3 stances for Reversed Grip Style, Traditional Style, Fencing Style, and Inverted Stance Styles. Now that would Test anyones skills. Think about the skills of someone who could over come anyone of those style, The Dueling abilities a that person! Think of the all the different possibilities this could bring!
3.Custom Lightsabers-Let the players design their own lightsabers, in game with MANY possible saber outcomes. This might sound stupid but I would love to go in game and have MY OWN lightsaber. Different from anyone else.
4.Graphics-Would be nice if they were a bit better:D

Well those are my thoughts.:D


Indeed well said

I al so wondered why they didn't just hire a good reputation company to make a new JK game (They have the bucks for it right?)... Especially with Ep3 coming closer and closer and people want to play with lightsabers more then ever! (Seeing as ep3 will be A LOT of saber fighting, no more looking at jar-jar binks face the whole movie like in ep2).

And if they finally would... And I beg to God for it...

Please do as Vasper said, and make lightsaber fighting more realism. Find out a cool way to stop the players from running and jumping like they are in a cartoon movie.

Sure it would be cool if you could move the fights, slowly walk or jump to a platform but in JK2/3 players run a whole marathon in the average duel!

My 2 cents,

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Mar 08 2005 02:37am

Gradius
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 Gradius

Masta raises an interesting point. As far as we know, LA is just a group of a**holes who sit around all day thinking of ways to make money. As far as they're concerned, we could all just be a bunch of SW nerds who buy into it too much. And the reality is, it's true. We are a bunch of SW nerds who buy into it too much. The only thing that prompted us to buy these games in the first place was the SW title on it. As we finally looked past all of the SW themes and into the actual works of the game itself, we became obsessed with it. The parries, the bocking, the bugs, I don't think they had any of that in mind when they designed jk2 or jk3. The JK community is what created that system and brought it to life. However, LA doesn't seem to realize the extra money they'd be pulling in if they would take the time to think these things through.

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Mar 08 2005 01:35am

Masta
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 Masta

I dont wanna sound pessimistic but from my experience, LA doesnt seem to care about the community as that bad.
Weve experienced it with Kotor2...where LA set an impossible-to-achieve timeline for Obsidian to finish the game, only because LA wanted to release it before christmas and get even more money then they usually wouldve gotten anyways.Obsidians forums are filled with complains and negative expressions about Kotor2...and do you guys really think that LA has even tried to put an official statement together, only to calm the community?Not one freaking word did theyve said since the release of Kotor2.
Anyway...I can name at least 5 ppl who have written huge letters to LA and Raven in which they have pointed out the obvious bugs in jk3(including the "poking" issue) and have nearly been begging for a patch because the jk3 community was dying slowly.The only thing theyve gotten as a reply was the confirmation that there wont be another patch (and that "poking" is truly bug-using...gg germany btw).

Im not gonna say that the Ep3 game is going to be bad...i rather think that LA doesnt care if we get quality products, because the "star wars" name seems to be "enough" quality for the community.
Ive heard tons of criticism about SWG...stuff like "you shouldnt get it at all, unless you are really really into all that star wars stuff".Do you guys think that thousands of ppl wouldve signed up for SWG if it wasnt for that star wars theme?Strip all that SW stuff from SWG and replace it with a new and decent theme...youll get a mmorpg not even worth 5$ per month.
Like a friend of mine said once: "It doesnt matter...its SW, so people will pay for it although its expensive as hell and not even well made."

Yet, i hope theres gonna be a jk4 =/
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This comment was edited by Masta on Mar 08 2005 01:38am.

Mar 08 2005 12:56am

solitude
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 solitude

code a new saber game yourself ;) nag orion to help you code it :D
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Mar 08 2005 12:54am

Tido
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 Tido

If you guys really want to, maybe someone should start a little group to organize folks into writing LA requesting a jk4. Probably won't do anything, but you never know.

Mar 07 2005 11:35pm

Vasper Ba'xian
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Think about it. LA has to see this coming.

The end of the Star Wars Saga! Episode III. This will be one of, if not the most highly anticepated movies in cinema history. Not to mention the possibility that it could BLOW AWAY any and all records in sales. Star Wars is one of few Movies/Stories that has strongly effected multiple generations all over the world.

As for Lightsaber fighting. Well we all know what Ep.III is gonna bring to the table!:eek:
Yeah they have to see this coming!

And theres is A LOT more that they could put into JK4! some of my ideas:

1.Manual Blocking/Parry System-No more running around each other as much. Get close, get personal, get wicked! The fastest and more coordinated duelist, wins.
2.Add Advanced Fighting Styles-Right now we have Red, Yellow, and Blue. How about The same 3 stances for Reversed Grip Style, Traditional Style, Fencing Style, and Inverted Stance Styles. Now that would Test anyones skills. Think about the skills of someone who could over come anyone of those style, The Dueling abilities a that person! Think of the all the different possibilities this could bring!
3.Custom Lightsabers-Let the players design their own lightsabers, in game with MANY possible saber outcomes. This might sound stupid but I would love to go in game and have MY OWN lightsaber. Different from anyone else.
4.Graphics-Would be nice if they were a bit better:D

Well those are my thoughts.:D
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Mar 07 2005 11:10pm

Gradius
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 Gradius

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they only think about money :mad:


One day you will too ;). Those LA guys have kids just like you, and they want to be able to feed those kids :P!


And buy them Gucci baby clothes, Mercedes power wheels, hire private contractors to build them a treehouse......come on, think of the children!
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Mar 07 2005 10:06pm

Tido
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 Tido

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they only think about money :mad:


One day you will too ;). Those LA guys have kids just like you, and they want to be able to feed those kids :P!

Mar 07 2005 10:01pm

Tamal
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 Tamal

I have to agree with the thought that after EP3 there will be a large AGRESSIVE move towards dueling and saber combat in the SW community, hopefully LA will see it coming and satisfy the masses with a JK4 type game :)
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Mar 07 2005 09:21pm

Gradius
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 Gradius

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Well I'm not sure what to say about this.

In May Ep. III is coming out with a very intensive focus on saber fighting. We'll see the best saber fighting in this movie than we'll ever see again. That's going to fuel a lot of people's desires to live out their dueling fantasies, but as of now there doesn't seem to be a game to quench that thirst (except jk3 of course).

It would seem wise for LA to release a saber fighting game (JK4??) to respond to the excitement saber combat will stir in the new movie, but we haven't heard anything about a new game - nothing at all! It's not like JK2/3 did bad in sales - I think they did quite well. But LA has leapt into other areas of gamemaking and are quite distracted by the awesome success of the KOTOR series and the consol success of Battlefront. Is there room on the LA table for a jk4? Who knows :|.



That's what the Episode III game is supposed to be, but since it won't be multiplayer (at least not for the PC) they really should look into making a JK4-type deal using that combat system.
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Mar 07 2005 09:17pm

SaZ
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 SaZ

they only think about money :mad:
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Mar 07 2005 08:28pm

Tido
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 Tido

Well I'm not sure what to say about this.

In May Ep. III is coming out with a very intensive focus on saber fighting. We'll see the best saber fighting in this movie than we'll ever see again. That's going to fuel a lot of people's desires to live out their dueling fantasies, but as of now there doesn't seem to be a game to quench that thirst (except jk3 of course).

It would seem wise for LA to release a saber fighting game (JK4??) to respond to the excitement saber combat will stir in the new movie, but we haven't heard anything about a new game - nothing at all! It's not like JK2/3 did bad in sales - I think they did quite well. But LA has leapt into other areas of gamemaking and are quite distracted by the awesome success of the KOTOR series and the consol success of Battlefront. Is there room on the LA table for a jk4? Who knows :|.



Mar 07 2005 08:16pm

Masta
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 Masta

Well the jk series are pretty much the first games which focused on some sort of a new genre.Its like...close-combat sword fighting.(jk3 even more then jk2)

Of course there are plenty of problems and bugs...some ppl would even say that these games are "broken".In fact, im quite unsatisfied myself with certain elements in jk3(especially after raven announced that they stopped working on patches).
However, im pretty sure that we are going to see more advanced games which will use this "new genre" a bit better then the jk series ever did.
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Mar 07 2005 06:37pm

SaZ
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 SaZ

well jk doesnt need anything...
well it needs to get rid of swaying exploit but
other than that... everything is fine :)
well republic commando graphics would be nice
but not all of us jk fans have very good computers so thats not really nessceary (mispelled abit :D)
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