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Episode 3 Discussion: Spoilers Allowed
May 15 2005 11:49pm

Buzz
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Buzz
Use this thread to discuss Episode 3. Criticisms or praisings of specific things you saw in the movie. Reveal and pinpoint to your hearts content
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Aug 23 2007 11:57pm

Loto
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 Loto

how dare you, komence.

Aug 23 2007 04:29am

Komence
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 Komence

Snape kills Dumbledore.

Aug 14 2007 08:52am

Ashyr
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 Ashyr

Indeed.

I sure hope we're allowed to spoil it, now. If your haven't seen it yet, you deserve to have it ruined.
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Aug 09 2007 12:46pm

Rogue
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 Rogue

omfg what a *bump* !!
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Aug 09 2007 03:58am

The Killer 9000
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 The Killer 9000

yeah and di dyou notice how they were the ones to die first!
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Jun 07 2005 06:34am

tarpman
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They walked into Palpatine's office, Windu told him he was under arrest, and they ignited their sabers.

I went: "What? Why are they sending Consulars to do a Guardian's job?" :D
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Jun 06 2005 08:28pm

Anakin
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Sidious made sure obi-won was out of the way, so he made grevious go to that planet and said he wanted anakin to go knowing the council would deny his requests. So once Obi was out of the way he told anakin everything about him being a sith, knowing he'd do anything to protect padme

Jun 06 2005 03:12am

Vasper Ba'xian
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 Vasper Ba'xian

The Chosen One is the destroyer of the Sith. Anakin destroyed Sidious and in turning back to the light, destroyed Vader. He is the Chosen One. The force was in balance after that. Not being use for good or evil. No Sith Clouding it. No Jedi trying to break thru that cloud. It just was...calm....blank.
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Jun 05 2005 07:32pm

Anakin
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Lukes not the chosen one.. theres to much hype of anakin being the chosen one and lukes not mentioned to be the chosen one once in the movies

Jun 05 2005 07:02pm

SaZ
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 SaZ

actually the prophecy is true!
without anakin there wouldnt be any luke skywalker - the real chosen.
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Jun 05 2005 04:25pm

Fire
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 Fire

Actually, in the book Labyrinth of Evil (which was approved by George Lucas, written by James Luceno) Sifo-Dyas is actually a Jedi that foresees dark times and places an order for a clone army. Darth Sidious learns of this and by that time, Count Dooku is an associate of his wanting to become his apprentice. Sidious wishes to use that clone army for future purposes.

Count Dooku and Sifo-Dyas used to be good friends when both were Jedi. Eventually, Sidious wants Count Dooku to murder Sifo-Dyas in order to terminate traces to the clone army and also to test Count Dooku and prove himself before taking up the mantle of Sith Lord.

Jun 05 2005 03:28am

Anakin
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count dooku put the order in and used sypiduses name

Jun 05 2005 03:08am

Gradius
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 Gradius

Yoda does admit the the "prophecy" could have been misread. And I think Darth Plagus(spelling?) was way before Anakin's time.

One thing that always bugged me about the movies though. In Episode II, they kept mentioning Master Syphidius(once again, spelling?), and how he was the one who had the clones created behind the Jedi Council's back. Who was he exactly? And why did he have the clones created? Was he aware of Palpatine being the Sith Lord and did it to protect the Republic? Or was he working along side Palpatine?
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Jun 04 2005 06:22pm

Anakin
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To the jedi they thought anakin was the one to bring balance to the force.. but i think that plagisus made anakin using madiclorians( excuse the spelling) and Sidious knew about him the whole time. So i think Anakin was the Chosen one by the sith to destroy the jedi

Jun 04 2005 06:21am

Vasper Ba'xian
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 Vasper Ba'xian

Well as far as love goes, its a very powerful emotion. Being in love myself once, I can honestly say it can make u do and think crazy things. I think he did love Padme, But at the same time, she was Anakin's excuse to more of a Jedi than the others. He had loved her since he was a boy, that much im sure of. But he also wanted to be more than the rest. A better, different Jedi. Anakin's always tried to go his own way yet still be loyal to the Order. In the middle is Sidious. Everytime Anakin has a doubt, Sidious becomes more of a wedge until he has seperated him.
In my opinion anywho;)
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Jun 04 2005 03:13am

Plo Koon
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 Plo Koon

Yes, and if you notice, Anikan didn't do it for Padme, he did it for himself. He was selfish, selfish enough to forsake everything, for himself. He wanted Padme to himself, even when Padme would rather die then have the jedi die. Anikan was really no more after he killed Mace and went to Mustafar, he was Darth Vader, he turned everyone away from him and let Sidious twist his very moral being.

He didn't really love Padme, for if he really loved her, he would've stayed on the light, where Padme wanted him to be, a good person, not a rutheless jedi killer :(
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This comment was edited by Plo Koon on Jun 04 2005 03:18am.

Jun 04 2005 02:11am

Vasper Ba'xian
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 Vasper Ba'xian

Not sure exactly, Since he didnt need to use his force powers for anything else, he was probably able to concentrate it all on upholding that illusion. The fight with Mace Weakened him, bringing it out.
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Jun 04 2005 01:14am

SaZ
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 SaZ

QUESTION:
how emperor managed to hide his evil ugly form?
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Jun 04 2005 01:04am

Gradius
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 Gradius

Quote:
For instance, yoda is a "wise" master who can detect peoples feelings and personalitys, but he can't detect a conspiricy involving 200,000 storm troopers and everyone is the republic? Hmmmm. Anakin defy's a lifetime of training (15 yrs+) to trust palpatine who he's only known for a very short time, to turn to the dark side to save his wife from something that MIGHT HAPPEN in a DREAM HE HAD. ok..... The best part for last. Anakin CHOKES THE WOMEN WHO HE TURNS TO THE DARKSIDE TO SAVE!!!. Wow, I can't go on....


The whole reasoning behind that was, the Dark Side had blinded them from the truth. They (the Jedi Council) remained hesitant about the whole ordeal, but used the clones to fight the war for them. They never knew about them from the beginning because they were secretly made, on a planet that was erased from the Jedi Archives.

Anakin knew Palpatine ever since he was a boy. By the time Episode II came around, Anakin was 10 years into his training, and very good friends with Palpatine. The Dark Side is very persuasive. Palpatine lied to Anakin to get him to turn. He twisted his mind, and it was easily done because Anakin was already going against the Jedi Code by being in love with Padme and marrying her.

He choked her because in his anger he forgot all about why he had turned to the Dark Side. He felt betrayed by her when he saw Obi Wan on her ship, and didn't believe anything she said after that. As Obi Wan said to him, his anger and lust for power had already taken her away. He didn't even care about saving her after that, all he cared about was his new power.

Now, I'll admit, there were tons of things wrong with Episode III that could've been better. In my opinion, the plot itself was decent. The dialogue could've been alot better, as well as alot of the acting and makeup jobs.
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Jun 03 2005 06:53pm

Gr1m
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WOW, episode 3 was so bad, just like the previous two. The plot was so bad and so badly thought out, it was somewhat hilarious.For instance, yoda is a "wise" master who can detect peoples feelings and personalitys, but he can't detect a conspiricy involving 200,000 storm troopers and everyone is the republic? Hmmmm. Anakin defy's a lifetime of training (15 yrs+) to trust palpatine who he's only known for a very short time, to turn to the dark side to save his wife from something that MIGHT HAPPEN in a DREAM HE HAD. ok..... The best part for last. Anakin CHOKES THE WOMEN WHO HE TURNS TO THE DARKSIDE TO SAVE!!!. Wow, I can't go on....
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Jun 03 2005 11:43am

Phantom
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 Phantom

If I was Anaikin I would bomb that planet for all the terrriable things that he suffered there.
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Jun 03 2005 10:27am

Plo Koon
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 Plo Koon

You think Anikan had pleasant memories on Tattooine? he was a slave! forced to do work! his mother died there, nothing but bad memories!, I highly doubt he would want to go back to that wretched place, plus it's on the outer rim, far from any "real" imperial rule. :)

and C-3PO would accidently blurt a secret out :P
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This comment was edited by Plo Koon on Jun 03 2005 10:28am.

Jun 03 2005 02:25am

Dacascos
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 Dacascos

Maybe Anakin didn't know Padme actually gave birth to even one kid before she died. that'd explain him not looking on Tatooine.
I mean. If he could feel her giving birth or anything, he'd have known about Leia before RotJ.

Also. Unlike 3PO, R2 isn't all too stupid.

Perhaps they knew how silly 3PO can be. Take ANH, where 3PO follows Luke's every command, and R2 continues his ''quest'' to find Old Ben. And since not too much people understand him anyways... Makes sense to me.
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Jun 02 2005 11:35pm

Squirtbug
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 Squirtbug

I'd like to know why they chose to hide Luke and Kenobi on Tatooine... Surely it's an obvious place to look, being Anakin's home planet?

Maybe Kenobi was able to use his force powers to shield them from detection, but is a single line of dialogue explaining this too much to ask?

Also, why did they wipe Threepio's memory and not artoo's? Sounds like blatant favouritism to me.
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Jun 02 2005 01:20pm

Zacfer
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 Zacfer

To Broom: It's from the Episode 2 Soundtrack, Love Pledge and The Arena and it starts after 2:40' if I remember correctly :)
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