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Use this thread to discuss Episode 3. Criticisms or praisings of specific things you saw in the movie. Reveal and pinpoint to your hearts content _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. This post was edited by Buzz on Jun 07 2005 02:42am. |
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JavaGuy - Student 
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He was not betrayed by those close to him, but he certainly thought he was. So yes, I felt sorry for him. Remember too, that there were supernatural forces at work--the Dark Side of the Force is meant to be a metaphor for the evil side of human nature, yes, but within the context of the story it is also a literal reality, twisting his mind. If, for example, Chewbacca became confused, misled and consumed by anger, he could come to his senses and get his emotions under control. That would be possible for Chewbacca because he does not use the Force. For Anakin, the same path leads him to the Dark Side. Yes, he is morally responsible for allowing himself to start down that path, but there were moments when he wished he could turn back, but it was too late. It was too late when he massacred the Sand People. I did feel for him, and I hadn't expected to. This film was moving in a way that I really hadn't expected it to be. _______________ My signature is only one line. You're welcome. |
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Plo Koon - Student 
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I do feel bad for him but after Darth Vader killed children and babies, I felt no more for him, he is truly machine...but then again there is some goodness in him...nearly 30 years later. _______________ Free Tibet! Click this link,and learn Here too This comment was edited by Plo Koon on May 21 2005 01:51am. |
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Who felt sorry for anakin? just me? i thought he was just kinda lost and felt betrayed by those close to him (the council not trusting him for example). With the motives he had, to try to save padme and sidious influencing him on the side; i kinda felt sorry about what happened to him. is it only me who thinks this? _______________ Joined 16 October 2004 | Retired 10 April 2005 | Returned 05 June 2008 | Made Staff 27 June 2008 | Made Council 18 January 2009 Padawan To Odan-Wei Belouve | Adopted into the Belouve family | Twin to xAnAtOs | Owner of the 4th Quesi sexy badge  Brother To Roan Belouve, Nomad, Majno, Silkmonkey, Kensei and Jarhok Belouve
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JavaGuy - Student 
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Meesa muy muy filled with happy-to-not-be-seeing-Jar-Jar-ness too. (Actually he appears twice but doesn't speak.) _______________ My signature is only one line. You're welcome. |
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Anakin - Student |
anakin should of been more powerful in the fight with obi-wan |
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Plo Koon - Student
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Here is the answer to why Anikan chose the dark side so soon, fear. fear of losing very close loved ones. http://www.starwars.com/episode-iii/bts/production/f20050518/index.html EDIT: oh and phantom, I don't think so because those visions did happen, padme died in childbirth with obiwan there, just the same in the dream/vision. _______________ Free Tibet! Click this link,and learn Here too This comment was edited by Plo Koon on May 20 2005 07:30pm. |
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Badger Hat - Student 
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/me <3 III But... I was expecting to see boba fett somehow. And why doesn't artoo have all these rockets and everything in the trilogy? _______________ RL bro to HawkJedi Chuck Norris pwns!(duh) Proud member of Yeah, it's a hat. |
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Phantom - Student 
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Does anyone think that maybe it were possiable that Sidoius was feeding (somehow) the imiages and prophaces into Anakins dream? _______________ -Phantom Ex-Master to Threat. Proud owner of Sazabi's 1500th comment! And Threats 50th comment "Insanity: a perfect rational adjustment to an insane world" |
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JavaGuy - Student
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Quote: Yea, Grievous was cut down a little too easily in my opinion. Then again he was up against a Jedi master, Obi-Wan at that, so it's not too bad that he got owned. Mace Windu fight - how was that lame? He had sidious down on the ground. What I found weird was that Mace was able to get him down for the count and would've killed him (if not for Anakin), yet Yoda got pretty owned by Sidious. I was under the impression that Yoda > Mace. What's up with that? In a previous movie didn't Palpatine say something about "as powerful as Master Windu and as wise as Master Yoda"? Actually, during the fight with Windu, I thought Palpatine was playing possum. Yes, Windu give him a hell of a run for his money (face withered and all that), but all the whimpering about "I am so weak! I am so weak!" is contrived--all the while he's watching to see what Anakin would do. I think he was ready to blast Windu off the ledge himself but wanted Anakin to attack Windu first, since that was a major part of his plan. Also, on the general subject of who can beat whom in what fight--just because one fighter is better than another, even a lot better, doesn't mean he'll beat him every time. History is governed by little accidents of fate...a speck of dust in a courtier's eye, a warrior taking a bad step, little things. There's no absolute answer to the question of who would win a fight between Sidious and Yoda. There is only the fact that Yoda was unable to kill Sidious in that particular fight and had to flee. If Yoda had had a better day, perhaps the Republic would have survived. [edit: fixed typo] _______________ My signature is only one line. You're welcome. This comment was edited by JavaGuy on May 20 2005 03:37pm. |
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Roan Belouve - Retired 
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I did like the film, I was glued to the screen. I think I will love it when I see it again, hopefully today or tomorrow. It moves at such a pace I couldn't keep up. First Scene blew me away, great story could have been a three hour film easily Jedis did die a bit easily. I was so sad at that point at the betrayal. It was brilliant how The clone wars cartoon helped lead almost seamlessly into the film. Quote: I thought the Grevious fight was so lame. If you saw the clone war cartoons which lead up to EP3, he was nothing like he was in the cartoon. Grevious took down 5 jedis like it was nothing in the cartoon, yet Obi-wan beat him like he was nothing. I thought the fight would have been alot better. Yep, Grevious was immense in the cartoon but Mace had weakened him as he flew from Coruscant hence the weezing Quote: as a star wars movie, it was really good. no way is it the best of them. why? because the dialogue was craptastic and the scenes where anikin becomes a sith (just after killing mace) and where he chokes padme are so absurd in their pacing and timing and dialogue that a 7th grader could write something that makes more sense. "oh crap i killed mace, what have i done? *wait two beats* make me a sith!" then on Mustafar (the lava planet): padme: "omg anikin, obi wan says you r teh suXX0r, baby jedi killa" anikin: "um...LOL WTF?!?!" padme: "OMG you ARE teh sux!!! i dunno u, stfu tk'ing bastid!" *obi wan walks out* anikin: "OMG you traitorous beeyatch! now i pwn you padme" anikin, goes from love to hate in 4.6 seconds. i love teh jedi, NOOOOO make me a sith! i love joo padme, good to see joo! NOOOOO die whore! greaaaaaaaaaat movie  I agree that the transitions were too fast. I hope it won't seem that way second time around. And Chewie no no no no no so wrong and unnecessary I think the Emperor could have defeated Windu but he needed to lure Ani over and maybe thats why he allowed himself to be disfigured as though Mace WAS killing him and he was weak Oh and Finally I didn't think Ani died he was just barely alive when Palpatine found him. So much to talk about so little time MAY THE FORCE BE WITH US ALL _______________ *Bro to Vaxxla,Padawan of FiZZandOdan-Wei Part of the mighty Belouve Dynasty-Knight of Nippledom.Twin of Selphestal!**Proud Master to Kaelis and Acura Friend to anyone who would call me the same  . Pic by the amazing Majno (merry)
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Rinzler - Student 
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mace windu got gibbed, should have killed the old twisted sith. bl mace, gl hf respawn _______________ I fite for teh usars!1 |
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Kilphi Tonfor - Student 
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Quote: One more thing did any of you happen to chatch the mellenuim flacon on the lower left side of the coursent arrival secen just after the crash? I caught it, but I think it was the lower right of that scene. I could be wrong though. Great film! _______________ My Father: "How come Bobo Fett wasn't in that one?" Me: "Why do I even bother?" |
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Quote: ...but it would have made more sense to me if he'd used that weakness to get him to use the Dark Side just a tiny little bit near the beginning of the film... I don't think Sidious actually used that particular weakness against Anakin, but didn't he encourage him to kill Dooku, even as Anakin said that he shouldn't? There really was no mind trick/manipulation, just a little push in the right (ha) direction. I guess that added to the overall effect of anakin turning.. _______________ Brother to Luke Skywalker and (SKX) Dark Blade 
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Yea, Grievous was cut down a little too easily in my opinion. Then again he was up against a Jedi master, Obi-Wan at that, so it's not too bad that he got owned. Mace Windu fight - how was that lame? He had sidious down on the ground. What I found weird was that Mace was able to get him down for the count and would've killed him (if not for Anakin), yet Yoda got pretty owned by Sidious. I was under the impression that Yoda > Mace. What's up with that? _______________ Brother to Luke Skywalker and (SKX) Dark Blade
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Smilykrazy - Retired 
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I thought the Grevious fight was so lame. If you saw the clone war cartoons which lead up to EP3, he was nothing like he was in the cartoon. Grevious took down 5 jedis like it was nothing in the cartoon, yet Obi-wan beat him like he was nothing. I thought the fight would have been alot better. Also I thought the mace windu fight was kinda lame. The way they shot that lightsaber scene was kinda bad. It looks so n00bish, but maybe mace cant fight good who knows lol Over all though, I thought this movie was the best yet. _______________ RIP MOM 06/29/58-07/31/08 Married to Koyi Donita 4/30/11 |
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JP - Academy Pimp 
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just saw it...all i have to say is OMFGH4X!!!! _______________ Come on now, every Generation X boy wanted to be Luke Skywalker. Is it because he was a whiney farm boy from some backwater hack planet? No, it's because he was a FREAKING JEDI. He could block lasers with his lightsaber. He could levitate droids & rocks & crap with his mind. Come on, he choked two pig dudes with just a simple gesture. He cut off Darth Vader's hand and kicked him down a flight of stairs. He got his @$$ zapped by lightning from the geezer Emperor, stood up and said "s'at all you got b!tc#??" This comment was edited by JP on May 20 2005 06:33am. |
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Plo Koon - Student 
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3th, Anikan had been falling down the dark path ever since he joined at age 9, Yoda said when he first saw him "fear I sense in you", and fear of losing padme made anikan attack mace. Palpatine made anikan think he needed him to teach him how to save padme, so anikan couldn't lose his only chance of saving padme. also in the very end of the movie the first thing Darth Vader say's when his new suit is on, is --"is padme ok? where's padme?", palpatine has to again trick Anikan. (you saw his grin). and the part about the dialogue, I loved it, and I think it's amazing, it's done just like an old style film- wich George Lucas did on purpose. _______________ Free Tibet! Click this link,and learn Here too |
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JavaGuy - Student
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Something that could have been better was Anakin's transition to the Dark Side. Yoda impresses on Luke that the Dark Side is seductive, flows easily, that once he starts down its path it will dominate him forever. I'd have liked to see Anakin's transition be more like the transition of an addict who starts out using just a little because he thinks he can handle it--and of course, with his arrogance, he'd think that he can. I like that Palpatine used his fear of losing Padme against him, but it would have made more sense to me if he'd used that weakness to get him to use the Dark Side just a tiny little bit near the beginning of the film, ultimately being completely consumed by it at the end. That would have played better than this business of his turning very abruptly to the Dark Side because he wants to save Padme. I still loved it. _______________ My signature is only one line. You're welcome. |
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3th - Retired 
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as a star wars movie, it was really good. no way is it the best of them. why? because the dialogue was craptastic and the scenes where anikin becomes a sith (just after killing mace) and where he chokes padme are so absurd in their pacing and timing and dialogue that a 7th grader could write something that makes more sense. "oh crap i killed mace, what have i done? *wait two beats* make me a sith!" then on Mustafar (the lava planet): padme: "omg anikin, obi wan says you r teh suXX0r, baby jedi killa" anikin: "um...LOL WTF?!?!" padme: "OMG you ARE teh sux!!! i dunno u, stfu tk'ing bastid!" *obi wan walks out* anikin: "OMG you traitorous beeyatch! now i pwn you padme" anikin, goes from love to hate in 4.6 seconds. i love teh jedi, NOOOOO make me a sith! i love joo padme, good to see joo! NOOOOO die whore! greaaaaaaaaaat movie _______________ this is the internet, be serious damn it! |
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Cloaked Thunder - Student 
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Quote: " The prohecy might have been worded wrong".. Is Anakin the chosen one or not? well if u think about it...he did destroy the sith. He threw the emperor down an elevator shaft (or whatever it was) You are absolutly correct, he did fulfill the prophecy and bring balance back but he did it 20 years too freaking late. He shoulda let Mace whack him!! LOL ... ehh then it wouldn't have been a good story... good can't win all the time... I hated Anakin after epII, he was such a little whiney baby character. After seeing epIII and how Lucas made Anikin transition into a more mature character I now see the necessity for the whiney baby character. Lucas did a great job. I admire Anakins character after seeing epIII, he was very mature and had grown patience over the years.. "this time lets take him together"- Obi-wan...... I was just about to say the same thing"-ani EPIII. Rather than "I'll take him NOW!"- Ani ep II. Anikin's path to the dark side came about because he was clearly lied to and manipulated by Palpy ....talk about getting mixed in with the wrong crowd, this takes the cake. A freaking SIth Lord! LOL Anyone realize after they seen the movie, how you were hanging on every word from every character? I was glued to to dialog more than any movie ever. In witnessing EPIII unfold almost seemed surreal. I want Lucas to make more SW movies!!!! Anyway, I loved EPIII. Lates _______________ Padawan of ShadowSith | Close JA Family: Darth Mobility, Katan, Jedi Prodigy, Virtue,D@rth M@ul, Virtue, Flash, Bandit, Yin Yang, JK-XIII, Faded, Silk Monkey, Skyler, `Orion, Aratan, SmilyKrazy, Faded Angel, and your mom | woot!
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Phantom - Student 
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One more thing did any of you happen to chatch the mellenuim flacon on the lower left side of the coursent arrival secen just after the crash? _______________ -Phantom Ex-Master to Threat. Proud owner of Sazabi's 1500th comment! And Threats 50th comment "Insanity: a perfect rational adjustment to an insane world" |
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Orion - Retired 
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The total uncut fight between anakin and obi-wan is like 13-15 minutes, its the longest fight in film history. _______________ When a Man lies he murder's some part of the world. These are the pale deaths which men misscall there lives. All this I cannot bear to witness any longer. Cannot the kingdom of salvation take me home? -Cliff Burton Owner of Smily's 1900th comment | <Lady_Catherine> i love your sexy white socks! | (Lady_Catherine) i adore u! | (Lady_Catherine) onion (Lady_Catherine) i lub u |
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JavaGuy - Student
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I loved it, not as much as the originals, but truly great. The fight in the Senate chamber truly showed Palpatine as really, really powerful. A few nitpicks: Artoo was much more nimble and acrobatic than in any other movie--lack of continuity. Watch for yet another DVD version to change the way he moves in the other movies. Padme was at most five months along in her pregnancy (it looked closer to four) yet gave birth to what were obviously full-term babies. Okay, that's more than just a nitpick. Watch for the DVD edit to fix this. The duel between Anakin and Obi Wan lasted a bit long. It was exciting at the beginning, then reached a point where I was saying to myself, "Duck him in the lava already!" I didn't like the extreme close-ups on people during the sabre duels. It made it hard to follow the action. I didn't think the Vader costume looked quite right, but that may not be a continuity issue. I think maybe it's not the costume that changes from Ep III to Ep IV but Vader himself--in Ep IV he's middle-aged and a fair bit heftier. I myself fill out a suit a lot more than I did at that age. I couldn't quite tell if the various instruments and doodads on the suit were the same, but there again it would make sense that he might not need the same kind of life support gizmos five minutes after his surgery that he needs twenty years later. Leia says in Ep VI that she remembers her mother, but she could be mistaken. My wife remarked that having Chewbacca in the movies was really cheesy, and I quite agree. I suggested that maybe Chewbacca is one just a really common name among Wookiees, but I don't think that's what we're meant to believe. _______________ My signature is only one line. You're welcome. This comment was edited by JavaGuy on May 20 2005 03:33am. |
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Oolongo - Student 
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Quote: In any case, I don't know whether I like it or not. Some things are just so ridiculous, I laughed out loud in the theater. In any case, i'll probably figure it out when I watch it again. Ya there were some parts where my whole theater was laughing too, but dont' think it took away from the movie at all. Heck there are parts like those in the old movies too _______________ All hail the cute bunny! |
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Klore - Student 
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i thought the movie was awesome... i was a bit sad to see the jedi get killed by order 66.... but i dont believe that all the jedi (excluding the obvious 2) were destroied.... after all they did recalebrate the message in the tempel at curesant to warn the remaining jedi.... if episodes 7, 8 & 9 were ever to be made thats where they could return.... after all in JA they do have the new accadamy with other jedi teaching.... its not really explained about darth plagus being sidious's master although the glint in his eye when he talked about his assasination.... but he refers to the prophicy as a creation by plagus himself by manipulatin the medichloriants.... (excuse the bad spelling) and he probably new all along the existance of anakin long before the events that led qui-gon and obi-one to tatooine in the beggining... |
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