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Episode 3 Discussion: Spoilers Allowed
May 15 2005 11:49pm

Buzz
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Buzz
Use this thread to discuss Episode 3. Criticisms or praisings of specific things you saw in the movie. Reveal and pinpoint to your hearts content
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This post was edited by Buzz on Jun 07 2005 02:42am.

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May 19 2005 09:01am

Dicemaster
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 Dicemaster

that had to be the best one yet....man it was just amazing. I especially liked the countless references to the "old" movies (episode 4-6). Such as the ships that look very similiar, but aren't exactly the same, and things like that. It really tied the story together. Also, despite the fact that like everyone dies, its not drawn out, and therefore its still an awesome movie. Its sad that all the jedi died, but we all know that in time the light side will regain its power
-Dice
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May 19 2005 08:21am

Mune
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 Mune

Yeah, I definitely gave Nick Gillard (lightsaber fight coordinator) a high five at Celebration III, and now I see why.

Epic-to-the-max + 1.
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May 19 2005 02:10am

Ulic Belouve
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 Ulic Belouve

Well, I have a dry run with my costume now, so that'll do well.

As for the "Anakin being revived" thing, I was just going off of the book, where Sidious says "Live, my apprentice. Live", while laying his hands upon his cracked brow, after just pulling him from the lava stuff.

I'll see what the movie has o say. The book could have different interpretations.

I do have a couple more thigs I was waiting to see if the movie revealed, so I think I will avoid this forum until after I see the movie (a few more hours).
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May 19 2005 02:08am

Carrock
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 Carrock

yea the movie was awsome but i was so sad :O
kk i knowed what will happen but when i saw it i was sad :'(
but they made it realy great
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May 19 2005 02:04am

DaMi3N
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yay i just saw the movie:P

just like the others say
AWESOME MOVIE:D

May 18 2005 11:35pm

genes!s
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 genes!s

I agree that they could have made the talking with the dead a little more clear.
And oh, Anakin never died, and certainly didn't get revived. :/ Maybe knocked out.

Overall: the movie was awesome!
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May 18 2005 11:05pm

xAnAtOs
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Just saw the movie a few hours ago :D

And what a story it was.......:eek:
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May 18 2005 10:42pm

Henkes
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 Henkes

AWESOME MOVIE :D
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May 18 2005 06:35pm

Senor Hat
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 Senor Hat

i agree with Garos
on all of it
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May 18 2005 06:32pm

Garos
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 Garos

Senor Hat and I got back from seeing it exactly an hour ago.

MY GOD! AWESOME

But I don't like the fact that the communication with the dead thing was never explained.

May 18 2005 06:09pm

Jade Jedi
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 Jade Jedi

I've just come back from seeing ROTS and in my opinion it is the best yet. There is just to much to talk about, it's all still swimming around in my head at the moment so there is no chance of me sleeping just yet. But I will say this Obi-Wan is awsome, Ive always known this but this movie just confirms it. I can't wait until tomorrow to see it again, maybe twice.:D:P;):)
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May 18 2005 04:09pm

Kueller
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 Kueller

The trick he used to revive Anakin is a common Jedi trick. It's sort of what we have in the form of an electric jolt to bring the heart up again. What he does is he pumps a load of energy in the body so that it awakens if it is not damaged beyond repair or "dead" for too long. This works only short term, things to lengthen life need something totally else, and I think they seek that from the holocron.
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May 17 2005 11:17pm

Ulic Belouve
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 Ulic Belouve

Sigh....from the book:

And the circuit completed itself: the lightning reflected back to its source.

Palpatine staggered, snarling, but the blistering energy that poured from his hands only intensified.

He fed the power with his pain.

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"Help me! I can't hold on any longer!" The yellow glare from Palpatine's eyes spread outward through his flesh. His skin flowed like oil, as though the muscle beneath was burning away, as though even the bones of his skull were softening, were bending and bulging, deforming from the heat and pressure of his electric hatred.

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Palpatine examine the damage to his face in a broad expanse of wall mirror. Anakin couldn't tell if his expression might be revulsion, or if this were merely the new shape of his features. Palpatine lifted one tentative hand to the to the misshapen horror that he saw in the mirror, then simply shrugged.


So it's not an "unmasking", it is him being physically deformed. I thought the same, that it was him losing his dark side masking, but reading this showed it was scarring, deformities, etc. that made him look that way.


Also, I do see where Sidious states to Anakin that he does not know the secrets to extending life, that he was never taught them, but then he uses them later to revive Anakin. Anakin is apparently DEAD, from the lava. Sidious revives him. A bit of trickery there, tell Anakin to cleanse the temple to get at the archives, so they can "learn", how to do this technique, when Sidious knew how to do this all along.
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This comment was edited by Ulic Belouve on May 17 2005 11:22pm.

May 17 2005 07:42pm

Jake Kainite
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 Jake Kainite

Yeah I agree with you mate. I heard something about him not being able to keep his disguise. Cos if you read the original trilogy visual dictionary it says something like "While the force has twisted his face, it has also sustained him beyond his years"

Obviously this could be taken in a different context to mean that a lightning blast physically twisted his face but I don't reckon they're that clever :D
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May 17 2005 07:12pm

Carve
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 Carve

What I heard was that Sidious always looked like that -- at least from Episode I onward -- and the reflection of lightning back at him caused him to lose concentration in his disguise, thus revealing his true form.

While it may be true that Dooku didn't suffer these effects, we have to remember that Palpatine is considerably more powerful than Dooku -- or really any other Jedi at the time.
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May 17 2005 04:11pm

Ulic Belouve
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 Ulic Belouve

Two other things I brought up in other forums:

Palpatine gets his face disfigured by a Force lightning loopback, during fight with Mace.

Palpatine does not know the power to extend the life of others, the very power he tempts Anakin with.

These are both interesting, as for years and years we just guessed that Palpatine looks like that because the Dark Side consumed him, and that all his future clones would look like that. This is not so. Dooku looked fine. Sidious just had some massive scarring to have him look like that.

And the other point, Sidious says blatantly in the book that he does not know how to, only after Anakin has pledged himself as Darth Vader. Nice piece of trickery. And then the trickery of "go cleanse the temple so we can have all the Holocron knowledge, and then we might be able to figure it out."
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May 17 2005 03:48pm

Ulic Belouve
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 Ulic Belouve

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Contrary to popular belief, Mace doesn't die from a fall out of a window.


Well, of course not, it's not the fall that kills ya, it's hitting 17 Coruscanti Speeders, 2 transports, side of 1 building, and the inevitable ground that kills you. Hehe. :D
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May 17 2005 08:25am

Duffman
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 Duffman

i wish i was able to go to the opening :(
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May 17 2005 07:53am

Rainer
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Contrary to popular belief, Mace doesn't die from a fall out of a window.
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May 17 2005 03:37am

Vaughn
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 Vaughn

Vader is also Luke/Leia's father. :eek:
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May 16 2005 05:31pm

NotSoLittleCaesar
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 NotSoLittleCaesar

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Well here goes my question:

What's up with Commander Bacara? Not mentioned in the book. I gather he's the one that kills Aayla Secura. Commander Cody is the one that goes after Obi-Wan, after the whole Order 66 thing.

So why does Commander Bacara get a first-run action figure? He'll likely have 20 seconds of screen time, maybe not even a speaking role.


same style as greedo, he got a minit of film, max and hes one of the best know charaters.
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May 16 2005 03:47pm

 
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I guess they wanted to make a Clone Commander figure. :P

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May 16 2005 03:07pm

Ulic Belouve
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 Ulic Belouve

Well here goes my question:

What's up with Commander Bacara? Not mentioned in the book. I gather he's the one that kills Aayla Secura. Commander Cody is the one that goes after Obi-Wan, after the whole Order 66 thing.

So why does Commander Bacara get a first-run action figure? He'll likely have 20 seconds of screen time, maybe not even a speaking role.
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May 16 2005 01:19pm

Rainer
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I heard that Anakin turns to the dark side, is this true?

Oh common gimme a break, its the first post of a permi thread, it just has to be stupid.

You'd be surprised... I've heard someone ask that before...
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May 16 2005 11:40am

Jake Kainite
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 Jake Kainite

I heard that Anakin turns to the dark side, is this true?

Oh common gimme a break, its the first post of a permi thread, it just has to be stupid.
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