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Buzz - Student  |
Use this thread to discuss Episode 3. Criticisms or praisings of specific things you saw in the movie. Reveal and pinpoint to your hearts content _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. This post was edited by Buzz on Jun 07 2005 02:42am. |
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Phantom - Student 
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One more thing did any of you happen to chatch the mellenuim flacon on the lower left side of the coursent arrival secen just after the crash? _______________ -Phantom Ex-Master to Threat. Proud owner of Sazabi's 1500th comment! And Threats 50th comment "Insanity: a perfect rational adjustment to an insane world" |
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The total uncut fight between anakin and obi-wan is like 13-15 minutes, its the longest fight in film history. _______________ When a Man lies he murder's some part of the world. These are the pale deaths which men misscall there lives. All this I cannot bear to witness any longer. Cannot the kingdom of salvation take me home? -Cliff Burton Owner of Smily's 1900th comment | <Lady_Catherine> i love your sexy white socks! | (Lady_Catherine) i adore u! | (Lady_Catherine) onion (Lady_Catherine) i lub u |
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JavaGuy - Student 
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I loved it, not as much as the originals, but truly great. The fight in the Senate chamber truly showed Palpatine as really, really powerful. A few nitpicks: Artoo was much more nimble and acrobatic than in any other movie--lack of continuity. Watch for yet another DVD version to change the way he moves in the other movies. Padme was at most five months along in her pregnancy (it looked closer to four) yet gave birth to what were obviously full-term babies. Okay, that's more than just a nitpick. Watch for the DVD edit to fix this. The duel between Anakin and Obi Wan lasted a bit long. It was exciting at the beginning, then reached a point where I was saying to myself, "Duck him in the lava already!" I didn't like the extreme close-ups on people during the sabre duels. It made it hard to follow the action. I didn't think the Vader costume looked quite right, but that may not be a continuity issue. I think maybe it's not the costume that changes from Ep III to Ep IV but Vader himself--in Ep IV he's middle-aged and a fair bit heftier. I myself fill out a suit a lot more than I did at that age. I couldn't quite tell if the various instruments and doodads on the suit were the same, but there again it would make sense that he might not need the same kind of life support gizmos five minutes after his surgery that he needs twenty years later. Leia says in Ep VI that she remembers her mother, but she could be mistaken. My wife remarked that having Chewbacca in the movies was really cheesy, and I quite agree. I suggested that maybe Chewbacca is one just a really common name among Wookiees, but I don't think that's what we're meant to believe. _______________ My signature is only one line. You're welcome. This comment was edited by JavaGuy on May 20 2005 03:33am. |
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Oolongo - Student 
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Quote: In any case, I don't know whether I like it or not. Some things are just so ridiculous, I laughed out loud in the theater. In any case, i'll probably figure it out when I watch it again. Ya there were some parts where my whole theater was laughing too, but dont' think it took away from the movie at all. Heck there are parts like those in the old movies too  _______________ All hail the cute bunny! |
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Klore - Student 
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i thought the movie was awesome... i was a bit sad to see the jedi get killed by order 66.... but i dont believe that all the jedi (excluding the obvious 2) were destroied.... after all they did recalebrate the message in the tempel at curesant to warn the remaining jedi.... if episodes 7, 8 & 9 were ever to be made thats where they could return.... after all in JA they do have the new accadamy with other jedi teaching.... its not really explained about darth plagus being sidious's master although the glint in his eye when he talked about his assasination.... but he refers to the prophicy as a creation by plagus himself by manipulatin the medichloriants.... (excuse the bad spelling) and he probably new all along the existance of anakin long before the events that led qui-gon and obi-one to tatooine in the beggining... |
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Squibit - Student 
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Quote: 1) I really hated the constant sence change esspecally durning a saber fight. I actually didnt notice this, and thats odd because it sounds like something i would notice ... I mean i didnt notice it now when i think back, but not at the time. Quote: 2) When operation 66 was taken effect anyone notice how Yoda acted while all the Jedi were being killed? I think he had a force bond with all of them, so imagen everyone you ever loved and were emotionally connected to died at the same time? I think that Yoda is just very skilled at feeling the force generaly, not specificaly set up bonds... Like when Obiwan sensed the destruction of alderan, yoda sensed the deaths of the jedi, but yoda doesnt need million (billions) of people to die in order to feel the tremours... and these were jedi, imagin if a platnet of jedi died... ouch Quote: 3) Why couldnt Yoda fight Sidious without his saber? Hmmm? what what what? You mean yoda didnt have his sabre ? and didnt fight sidous because of it ? or... if so , when was this ? Quote: 5) Does anyone here think that when Mace had his saber to Sidious that Sidious acted weak so that Anakin would save him? Yep not sure if the lightning reflection was deliberate though  Quote: 6) How is it that a bunch of children survive a attack but all the Jedi die? Bunch of children ? I'm gunna assume you don't mean Padme's babies so that leaves the younglings... Well, A load of them were slaughtered, where exactly do we see that any survived ? Quote: 7) Did you all see what Anakin said once Obi had beaten him "I hate you", Obi wan was being compassionat and Anakin still had hatred for him. Little far gone by then though huh ? Quote: 8) If it were me and my wife and kids just died and I was the strongest of both Sith and Jedi then I would have attacked Sidous since I had nothing left to lose. Well, I dont think at that point Ani was really stonger than sidius, not by a long way, I mean Yoda almost beat him sidius, Yoda is stronger than obi (not proven true but obvious to me) and ani lost to obi... Ani (actually vader by now) only thought he was more powerful. Afterwards, whats the point in killing sidius? Vader still thinks there will be peace now, and believes in sidius, he may also still believe that sidius will be able to teach him to bring padme back to life ? _______________ Quote: fiZZe: its SIR Fizzy Fluffy :p Quote: FiZZ[JAK]: that was what I call a counter Ah, things you only ever expect to hear once 
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Plo Koon - Student 
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Quote: First off, the movie is awesome. It was quite disheartening watching the clearly victorious Mace getting owned by Anakin and Palpatine's lightning. It would have seemed more correct to assume that the other Jedi with Mace would have actually put up a decent fight before dying to Palpatine, but two of them died in the first seconds, and Kit died after a couple of parries, leaving just Mace. These Jedis were members of the Jedi Council  The lightning explains Palpatine's disfiguring to me. However, I think Palpatine fabricated the story about bringing back the dead. Obviously, the apprentice in the story would have been him if he was speaking the truth, but I think, along with Palpatine stating that Anakin actually killed Padme with grip, Palpatine used the story to make young Skywalker give in to his passion and anger. The part about Padme dying in childbirth creates a fuzzy interpretation of Leia's quote referring to her having known her mom and her mom being sad, from ROTJ. I guess the Force could have given Leia memories of her mom w/o actually knowing her. The communication with the dead reference by Yoda was a bit abrupt. There could have been some followup scene. I was waiting for that explanation, and then I noticed that the movie was going to end with the classic Tatooine sunsets. Sort of lost the effect of the last scene, but I will go again and watch that. Maybe, when I'm totally awake, I'll understand that part better. The movie was predictable but I loved it. The duels, which on most of them I predicted correctly before any of the trailers, were all impressive. Obi-Wan rocked. He may not have as much midichlorians as his apprentice, but he is well atune with the Force and much wiser (higher ground is better heh, esp. if you want to keep your legs). For the enormous task of filling in the gap between Ep.1&2 and the original trilogy, Ep.3 does a fantastic job. The constant action and buildup to the sad Jedi slaughter (66!) kept the movie entertaining. R2 was impressive, the little droid that could Yoda dissing Sidious/Palpatine and taking care of his royal guards with one flick of his wrist was great, although he did get fried once, but shot two bolts back at Palpatine. The Anakin Obi-wan duel will definitely rank as one of the best.w00t for episode III "Do not underestimate the power of the emporer!" - Yoda. surely if yoda has to run and hide then kit wouldn't make it. _______________ Free Tibet! Click this link,and learn Here too This comment was edited by Plo Koon on May 20 2005 01:24am. |
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Jade - Student 
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Ob1 said he failed Anakin because he over protected him. He knew about his love for Padme and said nothing knowing that attachment lead to the dark side. He failed him because he also had attachments....he loved Anakin too which is against the Jedi training. **** Opening scenes were visually spectacular considering they were all cgi...GL has really extended the 3d space thing.....WOW! I like the way they made Anakin and Ob1 fly in unison showing how synchronised they were as a team. R2D2 was done really well. He was feisty!....full of character - trying to muffle Ob1's radio contact while hiding from the battle droids...hee hee hee. The fight with Dooku was good, but didn't show Ob1 as very good. He barely did anything whereas the book tells how Ob1 and Anakin suck Dooku into thinking he is winning when they have the upper hand....not a complaint though. I loved all the Yoda fighting scenes, especially the short one when he and Ob1 return to the burning Jedi Temple and fight the troopers. I like the references not only to Ep I, II and IV, but also to the Clone Wars books. I think the young jedi boy who Bail Organa sees killed by troopers is Whie from the "Yoda - Dark Renezvous" book. Fight scenes were excellent - General Greivous...."I thought you would be taller..." What an EXCELLENT film....definitely worth watching again!...then buy the DVD when it comes out....then the directors cut...then the final trilogy...then the remastered final trilogy... Best film in years! _______________ "You don't know the power of the dark side....Buurrp!" This comment was edited by Jade on May 20 2005 01:54am. |
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Phantom - Student
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Ok so a couple of things I noticed: 1) I really hated the constant sence change esspecally durning a saber fight. 2) When operation 66 was taken effect anyone notice how Yoda acted while all the Jedi were being killed? I think he had a force bond with all of them, so imagen everyone you ever loved and were emotionally connected to died at the same time? 3) Why couldnt Yoda fight Sidious without his saber? 4) Sidious is a geneous the way he twisted and played Anakin 5) Does anyone here think that when Mace had his saber to Sidious that Sidious acted weak so that Anakin would save him? 6) How is it that a bunch of children survive a attack but all the Jedi die? 7) Did you all see what Anakin said once Obi had beaten him "I hate you", Obi wan was being compassionat and Anakin still had hatred for him. 8) If it were me and my wife and kids just died and I was the strongest of both Sith and Jedi then I would have attacked Sidous since I had nothing left to lose. I had like a whole list of them if I remember any more Ill add them. _______________ -Phantom Ex-Master to Threat. Proud owner of Sazabi's 1500th comment! And Threats 50th comment "Insanity: a perfect rational adjustment to an insane world" |
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I think he failed him in the sense that he could've trained him better, to learn to keep his anger and the lust for power in check. I'm sure he considers himself a failure as a master in that respect. Sidious, I'm sure I heard him say he was trained by a Darth Plagus (spelling?). _______________ Brother to Luke Skywalker and (SKX) Dark Blade 
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Anakin - Student |
1. I forget wat obi wan said to anakin about "I did fail you" what did he mean? 2. Who trained sidious again? |
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Vasper Ba'xian - Student 
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He is the Chosen one, he did destroy the Sith. The Jedi just didn't realize the price they would have to pay for that to happen. _______________ Brother to: Tamal, Kavar, J.D.,Jermia, Devlin, Ulic, Xiabara, Seij,Tarron Mib,>>>ROCK ON .My Spacescapes art page.My Everything Else art page. MY FAV. Jedi Are: Qui-Gon Jinn, Corran Horn, and Anakin Solo. Unofficial Master to Tamal. and Kavar. Founder of the Wuji Hundun Jian saber style. Proud owner of Tamal's 200th comment!//Proud owner of Refl3x's 300th comment!>>>Proud owner of Tyrant's 800th comment>>>Proud owner of Lucky's 170th comment>>>Proud owner of BDKawika's 444th comment>>>To except Existance is to except Reality.
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and he didnt have a dad so hes like jesus.. |
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Jaina D'Kana - Jedi Instructor 
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Quote: " The prohecy might have been worded wrong".. Is Anakin the chosen one or not? well if u think about it...he did destroy the sith. He threw the emperor down an elevator shaft (or whatever it was) _______________ INTP |
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" The prohecy might have been worded wrong".. Is Anakin the chosen one or not? |
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R2D2 - Staff 
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First off, the movie is awesome. It was quite disheartening watching the clearly victorious Mace getting owned by Anakin and Palpatine's lightning. It would have seemed more correct to assume that the other Jedi with Mace would have actually put up a decent fight before dying to Palpatine, but two of them died in the first seconds, and Kit died after a couple of parries, leaving just Mace. These Jedis were members of the Jedi Council The lightning explains Palpatine's disfiguring to me. However, I think Palpatine fabricated the story about bringing back the dead. Obviously, the apprentice in the story would have been him if he was speaking the truth, but I think, along with Palpatine stating that Anakin actually killed Padme with grip, Palpatine used the story to make young Skywalker give in to his passion and anger. The part about Padme dying in childbirth creates a fuzzy interpretation of Leia's quote referring to her having known her mom and her mom being sad, from ROTJ. I guess the Force could have given Leia memories of her mom w/o actually knowing her. The communication with the dead reference by Yoda was a bit abrupt. There could have been some followup scene. I was waiting for that explanation, and then I noticed that the movie was going to end with the classic Tatooine sunsets. Sort of lost the effect of the last scene, but I will go again and watch that. Maybe, when I'm totally awake, I'll understand that part better. The movie was predictable but I loved it. The duels, which on most of them I predicted correctly before any of the trailers, were all impressive. Obi-Wan rocked. He may not have as much midichlorians as his apprentice, but he is well atune with the Force and much wiser (higher ground is better heh, esp. if you want to keep your legs). For the enormous task of filling in the gap between Ep.1&2 and the original trilogy, Ep.3 does a fantastic job. The constant action and buildup to the sad Jedi slaughter (66!) kept the movie entertaining. R2 was impressive, the little droid that could Yoda dissing Sidious/Palpatine and taking care of his royal guards with one flick of his wrist was great, although he did get fried once, but shot two bolts back at Palpatine. The Anakin Obi-wan duel will definitely rank as one of the best.w00t for episode III _______________ "Do or do not, there is no try" Jedi Master Yoda Dual Saberist |
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Vasper Ba'xian - Student 
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Ok I JUST got back...OMG on a swivil stick! I knew he was gonna fall but he fell HARD! I actually had a couple tears in my eyes when Sidious gave order 66. and all the Jedi were being ambushed and killed. I thought Anakin fought Mace, but hey. OOOOOhhh WTF! how is Yoda gonna say something bout Qui-Gon....then.................................. .................................................. .......... _______________ Brother to: Tamal, Kavar, J.D.,Jermia, Devlin, Ulic, Xiabara, Seij,Tarron Mib,>>>ROCK ON .My Spacescapes art page.My Everything Else art page. MY FAV. Jedi Are: Qui-Gon Jinn, Corran Horn, and Anakin Solo. Unofficial Master to Tamal. and Kavar. Founder of the Wuji Hundun Jian saber style. Proud owner of Tamal's 200th comment!//Proud owner of Refl3x's 300th comment!>>>Proud owner of Tyrant's 800th comment>>>Proud owner of Lucky's 170th comment>>>Proud owner of BDKawika's 444th comment>>>To except Existance is to except Reality.
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Plo Koon - Student 
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Quote: Senor Hat and I got back from seeing it exactly an hour ago. MY GOD! AWESOME But I don't like the fact that the communication with the dead thing was never explained. Yes it was, you just have to think about it All those 20 years Obiwan was never alone, Quigonn will be teaching him how to be a glowy figure when he dies. _______________ Free Tibet! Click this link,and learn Here too |
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Plo Koon - Student
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I've seen at 12:01 midnight last night, seriously inconceivable, it all ties in with episode 4. I cannot believe what I saw, it's sad that the jedi were killed, plo koooooooooon!! I mean with operation 66 and all, they must've taught that to the clones when they where kids. And Mace had palpatine beat! he won! then anikan killed him! I can't believe gah! Very amazing movie, I love it even though its very sad _______________ Free Tibet! Click this link,and learn Here too This comment was edited by Plo Koon on May 19 2005 06:39pm. |
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Quote: I wasn't sure tbh...don't get me wrong it was ok, but I didn't like the seemingly constant scene changing. There would be a few lines said in one scene, then switch. It started to bug me It felt like they had so much to say, that they didnt give enough time to each thing Yep, I agree. I hated the dissolves and wipes, too.. In any case, I don't know whether I like it or not. Some things are just so ridiculous, I laughed out loud in the theater. In any case, i'll probably figure it out when I watch it again. |
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Phantom - Student
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Best movie I have ever seen!!!! _______________ -Phantom Ex-Master to Threat. Proud owner of Sazabi's 1500th comment! And Threats 50th comment "Insanity: a perfect rational adjustment to an insane world" |
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Jaina D'Kana - Jedi Instructor
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I wasn't sure tbh...don't get me wrong it was ok, but I didn't like the seemingly constant scene changing. There would be a few lines said in one scene, then switch. It started to bug me It felt like they had so much to say, that they didnt give enough time to each thing _______________ INTP This comment was edited by Jaina D'Kana on May 19 2005 05:23pm. |
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Darth Jason - Student 
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I am in awe of this film. ab-so-lutly phenomenal. _______________ I have seen EP3 now I can die happy and complete. Happy Star Wars Completion day everyone!!!! |
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Oolongo - Student
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Omg, that movie to quote comic book guy was "Best episode EVER" just sooo damn good _______________ All hail the cute bunny! |
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Smilykrazy - Retired 
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this movie rocked! _______________ RIP MOM 06/29/58-07/31/08 Married to Koyi Donita 4/30/11 |
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