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Episode 3 Discussion: Spoilers Allowed
May 15 2005 11:49pm

Buzz
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Use this thread to discuss Episode 3. Criticisms or praisings of specific things you saw in the movie. Reveal and pinpoint to your hearts content
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May 25 2005 06:21pm

Darth Bamse
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yeah he did, he had both sabers. jedi don't believe in killing or exacuting prisoners and especially unarmed enemies, it's not the jedi way, it's the sith way!


Agreed, but Dooku is never unarmed as long as he has his mind. The Force is a weapon.


Xactly, hands should not be a requirement to conjure force lightning.
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May 25 2005 04:32pm

JavaGuy
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yeah he did, he had both sabers. jedi don't believe in killing or exacuting prisoners and especially unarmed enemies, it's not the jedi way, it's the sith way!


Agreed, but Dooku is never unarmed as long as he has his mind. The Force is a weapon.
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May 25 2005 03:24pm

Raider
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 Raider

QUESTION :O
In ep3, Anakin says it's an outrage they allow someone who has not reached the rank of master to be in the council, how about this?
Ki-Adi-Mundi was the only member of The Jedi Council who was not a Jedi Master. He was discovered early on and taken to Coruscant to begin his Jedi Training. Although he was a Jedi, Ki still lived by many of his cerean customs. He had five wives and several daughters. Ki was among the Council members that tested Anakin Skywalker when Qui-Gon Jinn brought him to Coruscant. Ten years later he was among the Jedi that went into battle on Geonosis. He was also one of the few surviving Jedi..
Just wrong info or.. ?

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May 25 2005 11:54am

Phantom
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 Phantom

lol
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May 25 2005 11:17am

Vasper Ba'xian
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LOL!:D
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May 25 2005 10:59am

Kenyon
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 Kenyon

All those connections to the original trilogy sometimes seem a bit contrived though. Like Chewbacca appearing for five seconds, meeting Yoda. Gee, it's a small universe!

"You killed my father!"
"No, Luke... I AM your father."
"NO! That's impossible!"
"And Leia is your sister!"
"That's... improbable!"
"And the evil Empire will be destroyed by Ewoks!"
"That's... not very likely..."
"And when I was a kid, I built C3PO!"
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May 25 2005 08:25am

SaZ
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 SaZ

you cannot whipe out sith coz :
1. no sith- no evil - disbalance.
2. no point of creatin another sw movie lol

its so sad that ayala died... she was such a nice girl :) and her death was so weird...
as far as i know jedi/sith can feel other ppls feelings... so why she didnt feel that time?
same with others...

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May 25 2005 12:30am

Plo Koon
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Phantom: The emporers plan, wich was; to have the clone wars so the jedi where on distant random planets so far from their home, having say five hundred thousand clone troopers to every 1 Jedi. The Jedi probably saved those clones countless times. If the jedi where close together in big groups they could've won against the sith but with them so far stretched out, lightyears away with around half a million or more troops, it's inevitable :(


and Vasper think of what you just said, seems you forgot what Yoda said... "do not underestimate the power of the emporer!, beware of the darkside! strong it is!". If Yoda can't win then surely the lower half members of the council can't, they're not main characters. The sith are more powerful than we can imagine sadly, but there is hope, the chosen one will redeem himself :)
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May 24 2005 11:37pm

Vasper Ba'xian
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Yah, I know Kit Fisto,Eeth Koth, and Saesee Tiin weren't as good as Mace Windu with a Light saber. But really c'mon! Eeth Koth got hit with a lunge my little nephew coulda saw comin, and Saesee Tiin got cut down basicaly when Sidious brought his saber back up. At least Kit got a couple blocks in.

Remember, all 3 where Jedi Masters on the council. I think they fell way to easy.
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May 24 2005 11:33pm

Balian
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not sure what u want explained it is your classic goodguy vs badguy. Its like watching the DIe Hards Bruce Willis takes abeating (the jedi) ends up winning the in the end. Yippie Kai Yaa M...F....:D:D
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May 24 2005 07:41pm

Phantom
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 Phantom

One thing I noticed that in 5/6 of the movies the Jedi have the advantage and complete their mission but no matter how many times they win they never are able to destroy the sith completely. As oppose to 1/6 of the movies that the Sith become victiorious they manage to destroy the Jedi and send the survioers into exile. Explain.
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May 24 2005 06:14pm

Balian
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no clue but i saw SW III last night and lol what kinda jedi die in 1 move against the emporer. I dont think that dude in RiverDance coulda telegraphed a move any more then he did. I thought it was good but I think i expected to much. Also anytime natalie portman and that Christensen guy gets together it ends up being a case of bad acting. Just let him kill!
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May 24 2005 01:45pm

SaZ
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 SaZ

one question...
anyone knows how long it takes for sidious to regain his normal human form?
if that time is not very long... that means... he was torturing ppl everyday since he became emperor
:mad:
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May 23 2005 10:50pm

Plo Koon
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yes very true vasper, the jedi made many mistakes; they got too entangled in a political war, too entangled with power, they are peace keepers not soldiers...wich in episode III they practically are (soldiers). Taking the baby from the family is another mistake I think the jedi did, as Vasper stated. :)
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May 23 2005 10:02pm

Vasper Ba'xian
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There were mistakes on both sides. But ultimately, he made his own choices. Anakins problem was that he thought being a Jedi put him above everyone else. That he shouldn't have to feel the pain and loss of a normal person. He wanted power, he wanted glory, he wanted recognition, and not just to be a hero but to be KNOWN as a hero. Things a Jedi should not want. I think the council rule on no attatchment is wrong. If Jedi were able to have love and families early on they they could train themselves to resist that emotion, and to understand it. You see how Anakin acts sometimes. The feelin is Alien to him, therefor he doesn't know how to handle it.

My opinion anyway.:D
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May 23 2005 09:18pm

Gilan Jinn
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By seeing the movie it poped in to me that the jedi council alsow has to take blame for Anakin turning Darkside.
1. They put him on the council but do NOT grant him the rank of master. Good job, he was already a little pissed of , now anger him some more.

2.By not giving him some of the important tasks (wich he need to prove himself) they piss him of some more.

3.They ask him to spy on Palpatine wich is in a way a violation to the jedi ways wich he beliefs in, so that makes him distrust the Jedi even more.

This are just ideas but I think they make sense.
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May 23 2005 09:02pm

Gilan Jinn
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I just saw the movie today and it was AWSOME.
The most sad scene (with jedi) is the one were Palpatine gives clear to start "Order 66".

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May 23 2005 07:45pm

Plo Koon
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yeah he did, he had both sabers. jedi don't believe in killing or exacuting prisoners and especially unarmed enemies, it's not the jedi way, it's the sith way!
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May 23 2005 07:24pm

Vaughn
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but didnt anakin cut off dooku's hands when he lost his saber? so he was unarmed. literally
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May 23 2005 04:18pm

NofrikinfuN
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On the topic of Anakin's having killed "unarmed prisoner" Dooku--can Dooku ever be unarmed?


I'd like to have seen him shoot lightning from his hands, which were on the ground a foot or so away. lol

He was, quite literally, unarmed.

May 23 2005 04:15pm

Jade
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 Jade

Just a small point I noticed to show how Palpatine/Sidious was playing Anakin.

When talking about Darth Plagius (sry for spelling), he said his aprentice killed him in his sleep after learning how to make life by manipulating the mediclorines.

Once Anakin had become Darth Vader he says something like "...together we will discover how to make life...".

Anakin....you've been thrown a line and strung along...poor n00b :D

Still think the film was awsome....takes me away from RL for the 2.5 hours....:D


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May 23 2005 03:42pm

Aiddat
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I liked the humor from the battle droids but I didn't like how they changed the voices. Grievous coughs so much it sounded like any moment vomit would pour out from his grill mouth. They cut out some really important scenes like Qui-Gon as a ghost and Yoda, Chewbacca, and Tarrful sneaking to the escape pod. Overall it was great though. The part where you saw the inside of Darth Vader's mask was awesome!
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May 23 2005 02:56pm

JavaGuy
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On the topic of Anakin's having killed "unarmed prisoner" Dooku--can Dooku ever be unarmed?
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May 23 2005 08:12am

Mindrith Pride
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Don't expect so much, and it will be the best movie of all time to you.

expect it all, and it won't be that great, but this can't be true because I expected all of what I saw, and loved every freakin' minute of it, :D I guess its personal opinion.

Proximo, about Darth Sidious being able to kill some of the best jedi... do not underestimate the power of the emporer! if Yoda can't win then surely Eeth Koth and Saessee can't!

and on Obiwan being able to take on so many blades at once, Grevious could kill jedi knights during the clone wars yes, but he couldn't kill a jedi master! episode 3 is after the clone wars right at the end of it...plus he's Obiwan man! Obiwan!
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actualy i guess that makes sense :eek:
i withdraw my coment about greivous :)
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May 23 2005 08:09am

Mindrith Pride
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yes its the best :)
altho general greivous and mace windo had realy rubish deaths in my opioun....
i mean greivous should have died in style, like surrounded by 123454322 clone troops and 12 jedi and he should like, kill 2 of the jedi and loads of the clone troops :P
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