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Who do you think is the chosen one?
Jun 04 2005 06:24pm

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Luke or Anakin

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Jun 11 2005 10:14am

Stig
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 Stig

It is a bit obvious just from watching return of the jedi because darth vader kills palpatine not luke. This is meant to bring balance to the force.:)
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Jun 09 2005 09:14pm

D@RtHM@UL
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But in Return of the Jedi is said about Anakin:
"In the end, he did bring balance in the Force".

you mean in the book or something?


No, it was in an extra feature on the EPII DVD.

Jun 09 2005 08:42pm

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But in Return of the Jedi is said about Anakin:
"In the end, he did bring balance in the Force".

you mean in the book or something?
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Jun 09 2005 04:39pm

El Vee For
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"Lucas says that Luke becomes the most powerful Jedi ever


I dunno about that really... What do you guys think? I mean Luke up against the power of someone like... say Yoda for example? He couldn't defeat the Emperor or even Darth Vader... But then I hear you say, Yoda couldn't defeat Pulpytan either


Pretty apples and oranges yer got there.

Luke represents a new beginning and as such he has the force on his side. It is with him and as such he can not be defeated. Yoda and his Jedi represent the old ways. Even Master Yoda was foolhardy and proud. He never should have faced Palpatine alone, his pride in his power led him astray. Had he taken Obi Wan with him the Emperor would be dead and the Galaxy saved. Guess that would have squashed the original trilogy though.

Yoda never teaches the Code or the Order to Luke, only the force cuz Yoda knows that Luke represents the future not the past of the Jedi and the force will have to guide the boy it isn't Yoda prerogative to do so.
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Jun 09 2005 01:52pm

angel
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hmmmm think it is anikin yes it must be
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Jun 09 2005 12:11pm

Padawan
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I dunno about that really... What do you guys think? I mean Luke up against the power of someone like... say Yoda for example? He couldn't defeat the Emperor or even Darth Vader... But then I hear you say, Yoda couldn't defeat Pulpytan either


Well, I guess being the strongest Jedi is different to being the strongest of the Sith and Jedi. Palpatine could have, and was gonna, kick his ass before Anakin stepped in.

Perhaps the dark side is more powerful after all, in some senses at least.

This comment was edited by Padawan on Jun 09 2005 12:11pm.

Jun 09 2005 02:35am

Matsky
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 Matsky

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"Lucas says that Luke becomes the most powerful Jedi ever


I dunno about that really... What do you guys think? I mean Luke up against the power of someone like... say Yoda for example? He couldn't defeat the Emperor or even Darth Vader... But then I hear you say, Yoda couldn't defeat Pulpytan either

This comment was edited by Matsky on Jun 09 2005 02:37am.

Jun 08 2005 02:26pm

D@RtHM@UL
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 D@RtHM@UL

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luke is clearly the chosen 1 if uve seen ep3
*spoilers*

anakin goes to the dark side a obi 1 says "you were the chosen 1, you were supposed to bring BALANCE TO THE FROCE NOT DESTROY it" or sumthin like that.
*spoilers over*
then if use seen the origonal trigoly luke defeats the dark side by himself. and in JK3 he makes a whole new jedi order. so i would have to say luke


But in Return of the Jedi is said about Anakin:

"In the end, he did bring balance in the Force".

So.....

Jun 08 2005 01:44pm

Vasper Ba'xian
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Well the prophecy could have meant alot of things. Yoda said it could have been misread. A part of me thinks "Lucas says that Luke becomes the most powerful Jedi ever, so wouldn't that make him the chosen one?"..I just don't know:(
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Jun 08 2005 01:14pm

Krazzed
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luke is clearly the chosen 1 if uve seen ep3
*spoilers*

anakin goes to the dark side a obi 1 says "you were the chosen 1, you were supposed to bring BALANCE TO THE FROCE NOT DESTROY it" or sumthin like that.
*spoilers over*
then if use seen the origonal trigoly luke defeats the dark side by himself. and in JK3 he makes a whole new jedi order. so i would have to say luke
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Jun 08 2005 11:04am

D@RtHM@UL
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Anakin.

Jun 08 2005 04:32am

Matsky
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 Matsky

I haven't yet read the novels that continue the story after Episode VI, but who thinks that maybe Palpatine didn't die? We saw him go over the edge into oblivion, but in his own words when the Clones inform him they have not found Yoda's body, "then he is still alive!"

This comment was edited by Matsky on Jun 08 2005 04:33am.

Jun 07 2005 12:34pm

Plo Koon
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 Plo Koon

That ofcourse is another possibility :)
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Jun 07 2005 10:26am

Matsky
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Well with Obi-Wan and Yoda in exile, hiding, the Jedi are for all means and purposes extinct to the universe. In RotJ, Luke publically announces himself a Jedi Knight, and so the Jedi are no longer hidden away, or extinct as thought - they have "returned".

This comment was edited by Matsky on Jun 07 2005 10:26am.

Jun 07 2005 09:12am

Padawan
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Being cooler or better than someone doesn't make you the Chosen One :)

Anikan physically picked up, and killed the last of the sith, so he was the Chosen One.


Yeah, it became apparent that Luke wasn't strong enough to fight the Emporer, so although he may have been involved, it was Anakin who rescued Luke, killed the Emporer, and brought balance to the force.

Of course, you don't wanna get into a debate about what balance is, but I think balance doesn't mean equal amounts of Jedi and Sith, but in a sense of peace. The force itself isn't good or evil, but Sith cause turmoil, destruction and so on, which isn't exactly the epitome of neutrality.

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by the way, did anyone think that in Return of the Jedi, Anikan was the returning Jedi? Luke was already on the good side so he didn't have to return. The Jedi where never fully extinct, so the movie must mean Anikan returning, right?


I think Return of the Jedi meant that the Jedi in general (of course there is only one by the time Luke confronts Vadar and Sidious) rise again, and take back their status as it was before the Clone Wars.

Jun 06 2005 11:40am

Matsky
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 Matsky

I read an interesting argument/critisism a while back about this "chosen one" bringing "balance to the Force". It argued that the Jedi had failed to undertake simple maths in their training, because when you think about it, at the end of Episode III (or later on before A New Hope when ALL the other Jedi (not Obi-Wan or Yoda) have been killed, there is sure to have been stragglers for Darth Vader to hunt down), he has brought BALANCE to the force - there are 2 Jedi (Obi-Wan Kenobi and Yoda) and 2 Sith (Emperor Palpatine and Darth Vader). Now that is balance to be sure!

Of course that is just one way to look at it, I'm sure there are many differing views of what this "chosen one" is. Personally I do not see how Luke could have been the chosen one because, granted when he founded the Jedi Academy there wouldn't have been any Sith left (the Emporer and Vader were the only two I beleive, and Palpatine wouldn't have taken anymore Apprentices because as Yoda stated, "there is always two - a Master and an Apprentice". The Emporer wanted Luke for his Apprentice, so he would probably have made Darth Vader a Master of the Sith. Who knows? I could speculate forever. But back to the point, sure Luke had no Sith in the beginning, but there would always be Jedi weak enough to turn to the Dark Side...

P.S. This is my first post here, glad to be a Student!

This comment was edited by Matsky on Jun 06 2005 11:43am.

Jun 06 2005 03:54am

Plo Koon
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haha ulic :P
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Jun 06 2005 03:27am

Buzz
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and luke wasn't a jedi until he had faced vader and the emperor. Besides you're giving Lucas far to much credit for depth that he showed to have disappeared from his thinking by the end of empire strikes back.
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Jun 06 2005 02:40am

Ulic Belouve
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by the way, did anyone think that in Return of the Jedi, Anikan was the returning Jedi? Luke was already on the good side so he didn't have to return. The Jedi where never fully extinct, so the movie must mean Anikan returning, right?


/me thinks

Fatal Error!!!!!

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Man, I had to think too hard on that one. Wow. C'mon, Lucas just picked a title. I'm a Star Wars looney too, but that's just thinking too hard.
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Jun 06 2005 01:53am

Plo Koon
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Being cooler or better than someone doesn't make you the Chosen One :)

Anikan physically picked up, and killed the last of the sith, so he was the Chosen One.

by the way, did anyone think that in Return of the Jedi, Anikan was the returning Jedi? Luke was already on the good side so he didn't have to return. The Jedi where never fully extinct, so the movie must mean Anikan returning, right?
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Jun 06 2005 12:00am

Selph Senatu
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oh come on Luke was cooler than anakin so he'd got to be the chosen onE!

Jun 05 2005 04:23am

Phantom
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 Phantom

Isnt kinda obvious its Anikin?
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Jun 05 2005 02:43am

Doppelgänger
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Someone had to get close enough and wait till the right moment to kill Palpatine so Anakin was chosen to do so. Everyone has their own purpose though so it really doesn't matter who was chosen to do what it all works in the end.
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Jun 05 2005 02:16am

Zadus
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Ok. if you have the DVD edition of the Original trilogy, go watch ROTJ. At the very end when luke sees the force image of Obi, Yoda, and Anakin, Anakin is Hayden Christensen in STANDARD jedi robes. that mean luke saved him from the dark side and turned him into a jedi when Vader threw Sidious over the edge. so there fore, Anakin is the chosen one
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Jun 04 2005 06:47pm

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Anakin is the chosen one because he destroys the Sith. All Luke did was blow up the death Star, save Anakin from the dark side, start the Jedi order again......wait a minute:D
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