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(Jedi)Obi-JK - Student  |
Fianlly a review of EP3 that agree with. http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=episode3 _______________ Silent Bob (Kevin Smith): You know, there's a million fine looking women in the world, dude. But they don't all bring you lasagna at work. Most of 'em just cheat on you. -Steve (Obi) |
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(Jedi)Obi-JK - Student 
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Quote: I'm not gonna bother reading the review. I've heard enough from the quotations that he's just reciting the same crap everybody has had and they've totally lost sight of the fact that the movie is telling a story. Anyone can nitpick the hell out of any movie, it's not hard. So Episode III had some corny parts or whatever. WOW that's really different from the original trilogy isn't it? Oh wai Not to mention this movie is designed to fill the shoes of a cheap, sci-fi B-movie. The acting isn't supposed to be Shakespeare. Couple that with the fact that I only found 4, maybe 5 lines in the entire movie to be unbelievable (which I can find easily in just about any movie) and it makes you wonder exactly what there is to criticize? Wow, they have stupid names? Okay... cool? This basically proves that he's just looking for crap to take apart and another one of the "star wars sux george lucas raped my childhood yayayaya lolololol" fanboys. Big surprise. A negative review from somebody who says all six movies were bad saying that the last movie was bad!? I'm stunned. Is it any different from the opinion of somebody who loved all six and says the last one was awesome? Not really. Basically my whole point is... who cares if you didn't like it? omg. I don't even know where to start here. 1.) I'm literally amazed that someone who didn't even read the article feels so qualified to make that many statements about it. Seriously your post is so utterly useless because of the simple fact, that you could agree with 1/2 of his review, and have no clue. (Not that is matter now that I called you out, you obviously won't) 2.) Who cares? well that page specifically on the website has over 580,000 hits. So I guess we can atleast say a few. But then again if you would have read the article you wouldn't make statements that obviously wrong. Quote: Is it any different from the opinion of somebody who loved all six and says the last one was awesome? Nope, and I nenver stated it was, but there are so many reviews for how good this movie was, that it was finally nice to see someone be willing to point out that it had flaws, and that those flaws were valid. But again, you wouldn't know that. You would prefer to make statements based on rumor and hearsay. _______________ Silent Bob (Kevin Smith): You know, there's a million fine looking women in the world, dude. But they don't all bring you lasagna at work. Most of 'em just cheat on you. -Steve (Obi) |
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Carve - Student 
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I'm not gonna bother reading the review. I've heard enough from the quotations that he's just reciting the same crap everybody has had and they've totally lost sight of the fact that the movie is telling a story. Anyone can nitpick the hell out of any movie, it's not hard. So Episode III had some corny parts or whatever. WOW that's really different from the original trilogy isn't it? Oh wai Not to mention this movie is designed to fill the shoes of a cheap, sci-fi B-movie. The acting isn't supposed to be Shakespeare. Couple that with the fact that I only found 4, maybe 5 lines in the entire movie to be unbelievable (which I can find easily in just about any movie) and it makes you wonder exactly what there is to criticize? Wow, they have stupid names? Okay... cool? This basically proves that he's just looking for crap to take apart and another one of the "star wars sux george lucas raped my childhood yayayaya lolololol" fanboys. Big surprise. A negative review from somebody who says all six movies were bad saying that the last movie was bad!? I'm stunned. Is it any different from the opinion of somebody who loved all six and says the last one was awesome? Not really. Basically my whole point is... who cares if you didn't like it? _______________ © This comment was edited by Carve on Jun 11 2005 11:38pm. |
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SaZ - Student 
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throw this review to garbage  _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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3th - Retired 
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no Tyrant, you're not  i'd say the majority of star wars fans loved it. i didn't love it, but i didn't hate it, despite what my rantings may convey, they're more for humorous effect anyway (there were just certain aspects of it i hated and a few aspects i loved  ) _______________ this is the internet, be serious damn it! |
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Tyrant - Ex-Student 
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Quote: yes, i too have seen the episode 3 and found it to be...most disturbing. Wow... So I am the only one on the planet that likes Episode 3 search your feelings, you know it to be true. i know there is still good taste in you, Lucas hasn't driven it from you fully!  ? |
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Tyrant - Ex-Student 
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Quote: Yeah exactly, I did'nt see him write about anything he llike's, probably because he's scared someone will make fun of him and his intrest's. Lol man, so true... Remember, opinion's are like A$$ holes everybody has one but no one wants to hear your's.  |
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3th - Retired 
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yes, i too have seen the episode 3 and found it to be...most disturbing. search your feelings, you know it to be true. i know there is still good taste in you, Lucas hasn't driven it from you fully! _______________ this is the internet, be serious damn it! This comment was edited by 3th on Jun 11 2005 10:02am. |
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Gr1m - Student |
actually he does talk about a lot of stuff he likes, but thats besides the point =) _______________ Smokey, this isn't nam, this is bowling. There are rules. |
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Jade Jedi - Retired 
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Yeah exactly, I did'nt see him write about anything he llike's, probably because he's scared someone will make fun of him and his intrest's. Remember, opinion's are like A$$ holes everybody has one but no one wants to hear your's. _______________ *CLICKEH->Never risk the Fett Man|*Download my Saber here. Made by master craftsman Pink Floyd_Mintaka + his 2002 & 4000 comment's [Laz's 700th comment][BDKawika's 600th comment] & Owner of a TOWEL award!!|Master: Sared Padawans: Rage-Ball and Dante Eagle.|*Jade Jedi at The Jedi Academy Archives "There's only one Return and it's not of the King it's of the Jedi" Randal Clerks 2 The top 10 reasons why I procrastinate: 1. |
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Ashyr - Student 
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I just find your responses in this thread to be funny. It's like bitching about someone bitching. Madoxx likes to make fun of everything he can, and if he wants to spend his time doing so, I don't really care. I have my opinions on SWEPIII, and you guys have yours, but yelling at eachother about them doesn't do anything but make people angry. So I guess all I really have to say is complaining about something doesn't change what it is, and we're supposed to be a friendly community here at TJA, based on respect. Let's keep it that way. _______________ Top ten reasons to get a better computer...|My fan |
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Matsky - Student 
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He calls all Star Wars fans nerds. Go figure. |
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Raider - Student 
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He forgot a few points which I realised while reading Buzz' "Where George Lucas Went Wrong" Comepletly smashed the "woooow" scenes in 4-6 1 thing thou, HE SAYS ALL 6 SUCKS, OMG WTF _______________ Artificial intelligence beats natural stupidity. |
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Tyrant - Ex-Student
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Quote: Im sorry to say, but everything he says is CORRECT. So I would call this review a great review. Wa...What? You are saying Episode 3 is bad?! |
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Kenyon - Lord of the Dance 
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Quote: This is based off the fact that he seen this movie, stated all the bad polt points (there was a lot of them) and people here still seem to disagree? That's because most people here (including myself for the most part) are hardcore star wars fans, and whatever lucas does you'll find it to be towards your liking, plain and simple. Yeah, or maybe I just liked the movie? Don't be silly. Edit: Though you do receive some sexy points for having a Big Lebowski quote in your signature. This comment was edited by Kenyon on Jun 09 2005 11:16am. |
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This isn't even about absolutes, or uncanny statements. This is based off the fact that he seen this movie, stated all the bad polt points (there was a lot of them) and people here still seem to disagree? That's because most people here (including myself for the most part) are hardcore star wars fans, and whatever lucas does you'll find it to be towards your liking, plain and simple. _______________ Smokey, this isn't nam, this is bowling. There are rules. |
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Gr1m - Student |
Im sorry to say, but everything he says is CORRECT. So I would call this review a great review. _______________ Smokey, this isn't nam, this is bowling. There are rules. |
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Matsky - Student
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It might be a review, but I wouldn't call it a 'good' review, or a review of any worth. It's relies too heavilly on opinion, and fails to actually review much really... I would call it a bad critique, as though he does supply some reasoning, most of it is just conjecture. Skimming over his site though I can see what he is trying to do, and admit I did chuckle at some of the phrases he had coined together lol. |
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(Jedi)Obi-JK - Student 
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Quote: Oh boy, you're gonna have it tough in life if this is the reply you give to all people who talk in absolutes. I don't need to know him in order to criticize his work. This has nothing to do with absolutes. I wasn't even talking about you criticizing his work. Quote: His "review" is just an excuse to be witty and moan about a pop culture phenomenon. In the above state you clearly assert that you know the reason he wrote his review. Unless you actually know him, and he told you this, then the statement is wrothless. Also this is an EP3 review, I did expect many people not to agree with it, but simple fact is, 90% of you aren't bothering to even talk about the review, your talking more about the author and the author website in general than you are about the review. Also those who do talk about the review choose to do so without even bothering to back it up. I'm consistently disagreeing with Kenyon, but atleast he can manage to stay on topic, and backup what he says. _______________ Silent Bob (Kevin Smith): You know, there's a million fine looking women in the world, dude. But they don't all bring you lasagna at work. Most of 'em just cheat on you. -Steve (Obi) |
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Tyrant - Ex-Student
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Quote: Nope, stupid review. Maddox writes interesting stuff, but sometimes he's about as funny as a kick in the teeth, with the logic of a screwdriver. His "review" is just an excuse to be witty and moan about a pop culture phenomenon. He likes to rant - ranting is easy. I don't understand all the hype regarding this guy anyway, and this article does nothing to change my opinion. I agree. |
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Kenyon - Lord of the Dance
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Quote: Unless you know him, and can get him to actally say this is true, it's a completely worthless statement. Oh boy, you're gonna have it tough in life if this is the reply you give to all people who talk in absolutes. I don't need to know him in order to criticize his work. Quote: Really then write a rant that is A.) Sound B.) Funny C.) About something almost anyone can read and understand. Since you know it is easy... I don't want to be mean or anything, but your replies don't quite match up with what I consider reasonable. First up, if I say something is easy, I don't have to prove myself to you or anyone else to back up a statement, because again, it is opinion. The same goes for you criticizing the review I pointed out - you're trying to deconstruct an argument where there is none. Reviewers go see a movie, write down what they thought about it and why, and that's that. Maddox is entertainment, not constructive reasoning. People these days. Didn't anyone get told not to argue with me? I've been the Academy smart-alec for years now. This comment was edited by Kenyon on Jun 08 2005 10:16am. |
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Matsky - Student
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Disagree. He was angry and lashed out. Now he's remoresefull. His sadness and self-blame for her death is a huge part in the Emperor having him so much under his control. Look at domestic violence man, often the abuser will apologise after the event has happened, show remorse, etc. Why should it be any different? After all, Darth Vader is not COMPLETELY evil - as Luke shows in RotJ. Edit: 3th dude, your pic is SCARY. This comment was edited by Matsky on Jun 08 2005 08:57am. |
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3th - Retired
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Quote: Yes, that's right. The entire reason Anakin switched to the dark side becomes unraveled when he tries to kill Padme, who was the reason he switched to the dark side to begin with. Oops! Of course, Star Wars apologists will try to point out that Anakin was already under the influence of the "dark side" at this point. So that's why the first thing he asks as Darth Vader is whether Padme is safe, right you morons? agree or disagree? _______________ this is the internet, be serious damn it! |
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Rinzler - Student 
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tbh i think too many people that read that website are easily influenced by his or anyones opinions. if you liked the movie before, you shouldnt feel any different after reading some article on the net. having your own opinions is cool. on an unrelated note, i think some of his articles are funny but usually because of how stupid they are. and i liked the movie but i agree with buzz's article on how it would be ruined if you watch them in sequence (ep 1-6). most of us saw them in 4-6 and then 1-3, which was pretty much wrecked anyway because there wasnt many people in the cinema who could breathe for themselves and didnt know pretty much how it was going to end. _______________ I fite for teh usars!1 This comment was edited by Rinzler on Jun 08 2005 08:37am. |
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Buzz - Student 
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Don't let Plo Koon see this review his head might explode. And Maddox's humor has quickly worn off on me. Its pick a topic, swear a lot about it, say why its crap and then insult everyone he can. It gets old. And since I was walking out of the movie talking to my friend about some of the criticisms he brings up its obviously not hard to come up. Even my article points out him putting special effects in every scene and mine was posted before him. His review is worthless. About all I want to know is if he paid money so he could rip on it or if he got an illegal copy. One makes him stupid, the other makes him a thief. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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(Jedi)Obi-JK - Student
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Quote: with the logic of a screwdriver You stated yourself this is opinion, why does logic matter here at all then? Quote: His "review" is just an excuse to be witty and moan about a pop culture phenomenon. Unless you know him, and can get him to actally say this is true, it's a completely worthless statement. Quote: He likes to rant - ranting is easy Really then write a rant that is A.) Sound B.) Funny C.) About something almost anyone can read and understand. Since you know it is easy ------------------------------------- About the "review" you like. 1.) It's barely a review, I'm literally having troubling arguing against it, because of how little it covers. Serious, this "review" spends it first two paragraphs giving lucas a hot stone massage. It doesn't even mention things like the plot So he basically gives: 1. We should bow to Lucas. 2. Recap the movie, mention very little other than how amazing the sepcial effects are. 3. Close with again don't forget BOW TO LUCAS. Besides if you look at this EP2 review: http://www.grouchoreviews.com/index.php?module=Movie_Reviews&func=display&id=95 he is an excerpt: Quote: George Lucas’ new batch of Star Wars movies defies most reasonable critical standards. With corny dialogue, sleepwalk acting, and eyebrow-raising plot machinations, the baroque Star Wars: Episode II— Attack of the Clones may make some long for the relative quaintness of Episode I—1999’s The Phantom Menace. And yet, it’s impossible (as with the dazzling but inevitably disappointing Episode I) to dismiss a film with this much stuff: exotic production design, imaginative characters, and a wide variety of digital jedi fu. So is Star Wars: Episode II— Attack of the Clones a good movie or a bad movie? A bomb, a masterwork, or something in between? For most, it's enough to say, "C'mon, dude. It's a freakin' Star Wars movie!" So what Star Wars movies are exempt from being good or bad? Then why did he choose to give it: ***1/2 stars? Also with this line in the review: the first two acts of Episode II add up to a talky fashion show of bad-poetry come-ons, psychic-friend-network jedi pow-wows, and foregone-conclusion politics How does the movie get 3.5 stars? He basically just stated that 2/3 of movie is not good. You could have atleast pointed to this: http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050519/REVIEWS/50503002/1023 Wheather or not you agree with the reviewer, it is a review, it does cover the movie, and give the reviewers opinions on the actors, the effects, and the plot. _______________ Silent Bob (Kevin Smith): You know, there's a million fine looking women in the world, dude. But they don't all bring you lasagna at work. Most of 'em just cheat on you. -Steve (Obi) |
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