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NofrikinfuN - Retired  |
Ever since I found the Lightsaber Forms project on JK3files, I've been looking up info left and right. Wikipedia seems to give the best info on them here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightsaber_combat The more I looked around though, the more I found that the lightsaber forms are fairly hotly debated among SW fans. In my opinion, the EU is probably the best thing to happen to SW as it extends the story on an infinite scope. As such, these forms are good because they give definition to what would otherwise just be seen as jedi swinging sabers around. Some however, seem to think that only the movies matter, so anything not mentioned in them never happened and just doesn't exist. Personally, I like the forms and wish they could be added to JK3, or at least be featured in JK4, if it ever comes around. What are your opinions on the forms? This post was edited by NofrikinfuN on Jun 29 2005 03:34pm. |
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SaZ - Student 
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form V and form VII sounds interesting  _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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Vasper Ba'xian - Student 
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LOL I think you did answer your own question. Form V is an agressive version of Form III. In stead of deflecting bolts away from the Jedi and the enemy, they are directed back at the enemy. Form III is used mainly for blaster bolt deflection but its defensive style and manuevers can also be used in Saber vs Saber combat. Obi-Wan's style is a good example, very defensive. Form II is specificly used for Saber vs Saber. Althoughits not tauht fully to Jedi because that kind of combat isn't common for Jedi. It is however the style Sith Master early on since they know Jedi are their enemy. _______________ Brother to: Tamal, Kavar, J.D.,Jermia, Devlin, Ulic, Xiabara, Seij,Tarron Mib,>>>ROCK ON .My Spacescapes art page.My Everything Else art page. MY FAV. Jedi Are: Qui-Gon Jinn, Corran Horn, and Anakin Solo. Unofficial Master to Tamal. and Kavar. Founder of the Wuji Hundun Jian saber style. Proud owner of Tamal's 200th comment!//Proud owner of Refl3x's 300th comment!>>>Proud owner of Tyrant's 800th comment>>>Proud owner of Lucky's 170th comment>>>Proud owner of BDKawika's 444th comment>>>To except Existance is to except Reality.
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Dash Starlight - Jedi Instructor 
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Yeah, in desperate situations, killing will be the only way to defend. Hmmm, the way I interpret Form III, its based upon deflecting blaster bolts into a random direction... as long as its AWAY  To do this, the jedi uses a stance that will only expose a very small target area, which is coverred by the lightsaber. As they're being shot at, they use small moves just to defend themselves, waiting for their opponent to grow tired and/or make mistakes. As soon as they do, they will be able to hit.Thats not Form III imo, Form II is more than that, but based upon this idea. Its a good tactic vs guns, (Dont try 2 deflect Concussionrifle fire btw, Im talking about small arms fire/blasterfire) but it can be used vs sabers too. Just stand back, relax, make small movements to block ur opponent and defend, untill he's making a mistake eventually, or gets tired and starts making mistakes due to that. Then come in and hit. Rofl, did I just answer my own question? In the best case, my answer 's open to discussion I think, though Im guessing this is more or less how Form III works. But it remains a bit of a guess/personal interpretation from my side. And if this description is accurate, whats Form V/how does it work? _______________ The name is Bond. James Bond. This comment was edited by Dash Starlight on Jul 12 2005 08:57pm. |
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Vasper Ba'xian - Student
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Well it would probably depend on the situation Dash. Jedi only kill when they must so if a defensive situation turned into an unavoidable offensive one, then he's switch to form V, if it was a blaster vs saber fight. Forms II and III would probably be used in a saber fight. _______________ Brother to: Tamal, Kavar, J.D.,Jermia, Devlin, Ulic, Xiabara, Seij,Tarron Mib,>>>ROCK ON .My Spacescapes art page.My Everything Else art page. MY FAV. Jedi Are: Qui-Gon Jinn, Corran Horn, and Anakin Solo. Unofficial Master to Tamal. and Kavar. Founder of the Wuji Hundun Jian saber style. Proud owner of Tamal's 200th comment!//Proud owner of Refl3x's 300th comment!>>>Proud owner of Tyrant's 800th comment>>>Proud owner of Lucky's 170th comment>>>Proud owner of BDKawika's 444th comment>>>To except Existance is to except Reality.
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Dash Starlight - Jedi Instructor
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I really love those Forms, personally, id like to master Form III I love how its passive, how you dont kill yet defend, but its hard to actually use that in duels and such. Because sometimes ull need to kill, and I wonder how that is done with this Form: its not likely to parry, sinds that sounds a lot like Form V (Deflecting laserbolts back, though that isnt parrying actually), and I wonder about a body-counter...  (<---Nice 'n confusing description, but i cant put it more clear, sry lol)Heh, Im probably not getting it 100 percent, so if anyone could explain to me how it works exactly, pls do so And would it be possible to use this form in JK3, and how? Would it be blue stance, making short, fast swings, blocking everything on its path? _______________ The name is Bond. James Bond. |
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Ecks - Student 
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lol, I edited 4 of the articles on Djem So, Soresu, Sokan, and Ataru. Some of the stuff people wrote I found extremely unbelievable. However, it seems to be a pretty good article nonetheless - I would consider it canonical. _______________ "To become a greater man, you must be a lesser one first." |
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AvaloN - Student 
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the Lightsaber forms are pretty cool if u ask me. Not saying that u have to take em seriously, but i for one like em This comment was edited by AvaloN on Jul 03 2005 12:18am. |
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Vasper Ba'xian - Student
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I agree Dev. A lot of ppl dont like the NJO series. Say its too un-Star warsy. I think people just dont like seeing the Jedi go thru all that trouble. An exciting 19 books! _______________ Brother to: Tamal, Kavar, J.D.,Jermia, Devlin, Ulic, Xiabara, Seij,Tarron Mib,>>>ROCK ON .My Spacescapes art page.My Everything Else art page. MY FAV. Jedi Are: Qui-Gon Jinn, Corran Horn, and Anakin Solo. Unofficial Master to Tamal. and Kavar. Founder of the Wuji Hundun Jian saber style. Proud owner of Tamal's 200th comment!//Proud owner of Refl3x's 300th comment!>>>Proud owner of Tyrant's 800th comment>>>Proud owner of Lucky's 170th comment>>>Proud owner of BDKawika's 444th comment>>>To except Existance is to except Reality.
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Devlin - Student 
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NJO series Rules! It's the whole reason I even like Star Wars (I mean, I liked the movies but I wouldn't be a geek like I am if it weren't for the NJO books ) _______________ Be at peace, and you will discover things you never dreamed possible. |
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R2D2 - Staff 
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YUP, EU is great Working on the NJO Series right now...real long heh _______________ "Do or do not, there is no try" Jedi Master Yoda Dual Saberist This comment was edited by R2D2 on Jul 01 2005 11:50pm. |
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tarpman - The Tarped Avenger 
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All books, games, etc, have to be cleared by LucasArts so that continuity doesn't get trodden on too heavily. In fact, some EU material (books specifically) by the more well-known authors (Zahn and Stackpole specifically) can at this point be taken to be as canon as the movies, due to their long history of interaction with Lucas. _______________ Saving the world, one kilobyte at a time. This comment was edited by tarpman on Jul 01 2005 10:00pm. |
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Iceman - away- - Student |
Remember that they have to get permission from Lucasfilm (or something like that). So the books are just as authentic as the films. |
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DarthMike - Student 
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If your talking about which is better, thats just an opinion, which is fine to have. Im talking about the authenticy of EU. _______________ "You can't get Windows on a Mac because the drivers are not compatible." --- Some dude from the Geek Squad "So if you have quad-core, you have four times the RAM, right?" --- Some guy at Best Buy |
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Iceman - away- - Student |
Quote: The reason EU is bad i because anyone can make it. I read some of the ROTS book, and it describes things different than what happens in the movie. Nothing can be for certain in EU. But, since the movies were the first thing to come, they are official and were all made by the same person. Plus, the person who made the movies doesnt take part in EU (except for clone wars i think) so their quality is worse. Just because it's different doesn't mean it's worse. And I think the books are better than the movies. |
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Jeramia Adept - Student 
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I think Different Forms are required, because if you compare it to reality you have several martial arts ecspecially with weapons. Not to mention tons of Swordsmenship techniques _______________ The Force is my ally, and a powerful ally it is. Padawan Brother to Darth Sirius |
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Buzz - Student 
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Actually, since Timothy Zahn's Heir to the Empire trilogy, all EU novels have been following continuity in relation to that. Any plot holes that may have occurred due to the prequels has usually been filled by a later novel. Things do get pulled and changed for novels as well per lucasfilm's wishes. Such as Zahn originally hoping for the Noghri to be the Sith. That clearly didn't fit with Lucas' plans for the future of Star Wars so a new name was chosen. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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DarthMike - Student
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The reason EU is bad i because anyone can make it. I read some of the ROTS book, and it describes things different than what happens in the movie. Nothing can be for certain in EU. But, since the movies were the first thing to come, they are official and were all made by the same person. Plus, the person who made the movies doesnt take part in EU (except for clone wars i think) so their quality is worse. _______________ "You can't get Windows on a Mac because the drivers are not compatible." --- Some dude from the Geek Squad "So if you have quad-core, you have four times the RAM, right?" --- Some guy at Best Buy |
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Iceman - away- - Student |
And Coruscant came from a book. |
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NofrikinfuN - Retired 
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See, I don't understand why people are bothered by the EU stuff. It's not like it's being forced into the movies and overwriting anything in them, the movies are their own entity. Also, just because something wasn't mentioned in one of 6 movies (None more than 2 1/2 hours long), doesn't mean it couldn't have happened. If you only like the movies, that's all you need acknowledge. Of course, you realize Kyle Katarn, and the Jedi Academy themselves are part of the EU? |
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Iceman - away- - Student |
EU: Expanded Universe, Books, games... It might be that I like forms because I love roleplaying. |
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DarthMike - Student
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ehhhhh sorry about my retardation, but whats EU? _______________ "You can't get Windows on a Mac because the drivers are not compatible." --- Some dude from the Geek Squad "So if you have quad-core, you have four times the RAM, right?" --- Some guy at Best Buy |
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SaZ - Student 
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i dont think these forms are good idea for games. thats because i cant remember which forms own which. like ataru > soresu or somethin. now these forms are just words and there are no things told about form vs form. ofcourse i can be mistaken... _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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Buzz - Student 
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But a Jedi would not be using the Force, that heavily in a fight, and not full on in an attack. "Only for knowledge and defense, never to attack." So a set stylization for attacking varying opponents would be key for a jedi. If they are always relying on the Force in fighting, then the potential to just start using it directly becomes greater. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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Iceman - away- - Student |
Lightsaber forms were mentioned in the ROTS book. I like them. Hard for me to say why tho. Edit: You said that they're false. But, when you play JK3 or almost every other SW game, it's EU. Just like people say that they never rp in an MMORPG. But, every step they take is rp. This comment was edited by Iceman - away- on Jun 30 2005 09:51am. |
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DarthMike - Student
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I dont like the forms because they are just adding another technical aspect to star wars. Like the midichlorians they should not have been mentioned. I like to think that jedi/sith just use their instincts when fighting. Also, this isnt mentioned in movies. I suspect it is in the books, but those arent made by lucas so i consider them false. _______________ "You can't get Windows on a Mac because the drivers are not compatible." --- Some dude from the Geek Squad "So if you have quad-core, you have four times the RAM, right?" --- Some guy at Best Buy |
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