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Sared - Retired  |
Go read the news. London just had some major crap happen. I'm praying that our UK members are safe. _______________ I'm crazy, not stupid. |
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Kainz00r - Jedi Knight 
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Nuke the Middle East? If only the solution to this problem was so easy. _______________ Fervent supporter of duelling - leave a message if you would like to battle! Married to Masta. |
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Aiddat - Student 
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This is terrible. Poor victims.  _______________ -Aiddat, the Gran with the green blades. "You have a right to be angry, but believe me when I say you don't want to feed that emotion." - Kyle Katarn {Owner of Liso Jowol's 550th comment, Conchris Chaotic's 80th, 150th and 350th comments, Pink Floyd's 200th comment Tyrant's 695th comment, D@RTHM@UL's 10600th comment}, accidentally tricked Pink Floyd into giving me his 1700th comment, I also have Alexander D'Kana's 1950th comment, Mindrith Pride's 1850th comment and I used the same accidental trick on Lewis's 100th comment, and I have Aiddat's 1992nd comment (birthyear), and #Elmo's 450th comment. Unsuccessfully tried to prove Senor Hat's theory wrong. Click for screenshots. Padawan of R2-D2. |
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CuZzA - Student 
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Buzz, correct me if i'm wrong, but are u saying that you'd rather nuke the middle east (as that's where all the terrorists are coming from at the moment) than do nothing and wait for another attack? If you are, then I, personally, agree with you...again, if i'm wrong, just say so _______________ - Even if Carlsberg made "w*nkers", Christiano Ronaldo would still be the biggest "w*nker" in the world |
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Serra Keto - Student 
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Yeh coz blowing up county's is going to "Stop" Terrorism isn't it. Not actuly get more people turning to extream becuase there entire country has been blitz and then left to rot. _______________ You were everything I wanted, but we lost it. I'm Not going away. http://jediknight2.filefront.com/file/Deuces_Wild_Pack_2;45812 |
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Buzz - Student 
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I'm calling you hypocritical and your views are sympathetic to the terrorists. You were saying that we cannot deal in black and white, them or us, in effect that becomes good vs evil. Then you say how proposing a nuke would be evil. We can't judge their actions but you're allowed to judge ours. We're also no where near to their level. When US soldiers start broadcasting the beheadings of prisoners I'll believe that we might be at their level. Drop a nuke, I won't complain. Just do like Hiroshima and Nagasaki, drop flyers telling all civilians to leave immediately and hope that whatever target we choose the military lets them leave unlike the Japanese. And if you want me heartless, turn the middle east into a sheet of glass. And if you think that last paragraph was remotely 100% serious, you should check and make sure that gullible is in the dictionary. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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NotSoLittleCaesar - Student 
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omg guys..for f*** sake. you guys are being idiots to be hnest..all of you, this is a post and topic to hope everyone is ok, and you guys are turning it into a political argument? _______________ Quote: I mostly agree oh Lord of the squeezy mop
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Ulic |retired| - Student 
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It's true that many islamic terrorist leaders come from well to do families but that doesn't make the other problem non-existent, it just shows that, like I said, the problem's got many sides and a good view on all sides is necessary. I'm not sure if I understand you correctly Buzz, and I'm certain you don't understand me. I hope you are not accusing me of being on the side of the terrorists. Their attacks on innocent people are pure evil, just as evil as a plan to nuke innocent people as I said. Just because they attacked innocent people does not mean that we have the right to do so, that is a childish and very dangerous way of thinking. Killing civilians always was, is and always will be evil, at least in the Western tradition of human rights and international justice the terrorists want to destroy. Don't destroy it for them. Of course the terrorists aren't playing by our rules, but if we abandon our precious rules, and by that I mean everything the West stands for and terrorists try to destroy, the terrorists have won already. _______________ Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam |
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Buzz - Student 
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Quote: Cuzza, I can understand you're emotional but let's not make the mistake to let our emotions overrule our ratio. I do hope you're the only one who has such beliefs, and that noone with real power shares them. Who is they? This American black-and-white thinking eerily resembles the way terrorists think. One simply just cannot speak in 'they' against 'us'. I agree that the Middle-East is developing and anti-American and anti-Western lifestyle, but let's not forget that the blunt policy of the States has as big a part in that as the fueling of the hate by terrorist groups. This terrorism we're dealing with is religiously based but can be tracked down to bad living standards. If you've got nothing to lose, you're an easy target for religious fanatics to recruit you. If we want to end this problem, and extreme islamic terrorism most definitely is one of the major problems of our generation, we must take every effort to improve the lives of the people in those countries in the Middle-East, and this will fail if we do not accept the souvereignty of all those different states and get swept away with emotions. This leads to a very small view on things indeed, causing black-and-white thinking and over-generalisation, and what we need more than anything is a good objective and wide view on things, should we want to overcome this threat. Proposing to nuke millions of innocent people and authorising it by saying that those innocent people would have become terrorists anyway is not just easy and dumb, but dangerous and pure evil. People who are not brought up with your traditions aren't necessarily terrorists but continueing the nuke-'em policy most certainly will alter that. The 9/11 hijackers came from well off families. Its not a matter of "oh they're poor and that's why they do it." They, being Islamic extremists, are the ones that declared war on us. You want to think you shouldn't be dealing in black and white, them and us, that's all nice and fine but they're not playing by those rules. And they're developing an anti-western lifestyle? Try its developed. Its there, its existed for a good thousand years. And dropping a nuke is pure evil, but I guess specifically targetting innocent civilians is just some shade of grey. Afterall you can't think so direct, isn't that what you were saying, or does this only apply when you're trying to hand a suicide bomber a daisy? As for which european country to bomb first? France, but only because every other country talks about how fun it is to do it. So aratan you want to tell us how the police in Europe were going to shut down the terrorist training camps in AFGHANISTAN? Maybe you think stopping them when they are already there is good enough, I personally want to see as many stopped before they get to our countries. I want the governments that give them support to either end that support or be ended themselves. I want their leadership dead and their moneylines cut off. I want to see the people of the middle east actually get their information from a free press so they stop believing that jews drink blood and want to kill their babies. I want Lieutenant Dan gunning down terrorists at a training camp in DurkaDurkastan before Barney Feif has to try and arrest one who's goal is to blow himself up and take as many civilians as possible in Anytown USA. You want them stopped on your doorstep, I want them stopped before they leave their house. I like what I want better. And don't let me see you swearing again Aratan. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. This comment was edited by Buzz on Jul 09 2005 03:49pm. |
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Ulic |retired| - Student
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Cuzza, I can understand you're emotional but let's not make the mistake to let our emotions overrule our ratio. I do hope you're the only one who has such beliefs, and that noone with real power shares them. Who is they? This American black-and-white thinking eerily resembles the way terrorists think. One simply just cannot speak in 'they' against 'us'. I agree that the Middle-East is developing and anti-American and anti-Western lifestyle, but let's not forget that the blunt policy of the States has as big a part in that as the fueling of the hate by terrorist groups. This terrorism we're dealing with is religiously based but can be tracked down to bad living standards. If you've got nothing to lose, you're an easy target for religious fanatics to recruit you. If we want to end this problem, and extreme islamic terrorism most definitely is one of the major problems of our generation, we must take every effort to improve the lives of the people in those countries in the Middle-East, and this will fail if we do not accept the souvereignty of all those different states and get swept away with emotions. This leads to a very small view on things indeed, causing black-and-white thinking and over-generalisation, and what we need more than anything is a good objective and wide view on things, should we want to overcome this threat. Proposing to nuke millions of innocent people and authorising it by saying that those innocent people would have become terrorists anyway is not just easy and dumb, but dangerous and pure evil. People who are not brought up with your traditions aren't necessarily terrorists but continueing the nuke-'em policy most certainly will alter that. _______________ Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam This comment was edited by Ulic |retired| on Jul 09 2005 01:06pm. |
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Jacen Aratan - Student |
Quote: Right because the police forces have always been doing such a great job in the past in dealing with this. Just go back to sticking your fingers in your ears and saying that this is just normal criminal activity and no possible way to solve it than have the police arrest the body parts of the suicide bombers. I'd put down money that these were people of middle eastern descent. I personally like the idea of dropping balloons full of paint or something over tehran and maybe even mecca, along with flyers saying next time we won't be as nice. That's some big non-lethal persuasion I think. Right, so which EUROPEAN country do you wanna bomb first? Since all the terrorists live in Europe, bombing Iran or Syria ain't gonna do shit to help improve the situation in Europe right now. It MIGHT help other stuff, yes, but it's sure as hell not gonna prevent the next bomb in the US or EU. Knowing what the terrorists will do before they do it is how you'll prevent this crap. But of course, if you wanna go stick your fingers in your own ears and think nukes will solve every problem in the world, either killing off 1/3 of the world or creating twice as many terrorists, be my guest. This comment was edited by Jacen Aratan on Jul 09 2005 12:45pm. |
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CuZzA - Student
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Quote: Hundreds of thousands/millions of deaths in another country = hundreds/thousand of deaths in your country. Therefore, one life in your country > one life in their country. that would be erm, a pretty good definition of racism. This is called perspective, not racism. I'm going to be a lot more upset over a death in my family than I am over a death in yours. I'll be more upset still about my single loss if you lost 5 people. Keep expanding that out. yeah and look at it this way. If it was a suicide bomber, thats 1 (or 7/8 if there are the same amount of bombers as there are bombs) terrorist and 47 people dead...1:47 yeah, cos that's fair _______________ - Even if Carlsberg made "w*nkers", Christiano Ronaldo would still be the biggest "w*nker" in the world |
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CuZzA - Student 
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ok, i've got a better idea. Get them out of our freakin country. and btw, i KNOW that that 'little kid' will grow up to be a terrorist, i said what if he did and no, i'm not racist, i just can't stand terrorism, like most people, and it seems like they're all coming from the middle east sorry for my post but its really the only way i could tell every1 here how i felt sorry if i did offend anybody, i hope not... _______________ - Even if Carlsberg made "w*nkers", Christiano Ronaldo would still be the biggest "w*nker" in the world |
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Buzz - Student
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Quote: Hundreds of thousands/millions of deaths in another country = hundreds/thousand of deaths in your country. Therefore, one life in your country > one life in their country. that would be erm, a pretty good definition of racism. This is called perspective, not racism. I'm going to be a lot more upset over a death in my family than I am over a death in yours. I'll be more upset still about my single loss if you lost 5 people. Keep expanding that out. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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3th - Retired 
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Quote: I'm fine, but a sister-in-law was hit, she'll be ok though. sorry to hear that Yew. glad it's not serious though. _______________ this is the internet, be serious damn it! |
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Buzz - Student
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Right because the police forces have always been doing such a great job in the past in dealing with this. Just go back to sticking your fingers in your ears and saying that this is just normal criminal activity and no possible way to solve it than have the police arrest the body parts of the suicide bombers. I'd put down money that these were people of middle eastern descent. I personally like the idea of dropping balloons full of paint or something over tehran and maybe even mecca, along with flyers saying next time we won't be as nice. That's some big non-lethal persuasion I think. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. This comment was edited by Buzz on Jul 09 2005 07:09am. |
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Dicemaster - Student 
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Yes nuking there countries, while making us all feel much better, would not be the right thing to do. First off, we can't even say that these were people of middle eastern decent. The terrorists come in all races and sexes and ages. They can manipulate people and get them on there side. So kicking out all middle easterns or killing them all, wouldn't solve the problem, it would just make it much much worse -Dice _______________ Dicemaster |
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Jacen Aratan - Student |
This is a job for the policeforces, not the military. The terroristcells are in the European countries, not in some far-away country around the globe. Cooperation with the other countries is the way towards a more secure world... but for the sake of whatever you hold dear, don't go changing your daily routines because of it, or even panick... can't give them what they want. |
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Plo Koon - Student 
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Cuzza, there is no way to tell that those little boys will grow up to be terrorists. If we bombed the country with nuclear weapons, it will kill innocent people. If we kill innocent people, people just like the people in madrid, the world trade centers on 9/11, and london, then it makes us no different from terrorists. Cuzza I hate to say it but you sound exactly like Anikan from Episode III. Only a Sith deals in absolutes. _______________ Free Tibet! Click this link,and learn Here too This comment was edited by Plo Koon on Jul 09 2005 02:08am. |
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Nuebus - Student 
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phew... just "ANNOYED" cuzza? _______________ Sanity is for the weak -Let the madness consume you... I'ma moron, i'm the master of morons, i even got a club of morons... so how do u beat me at bein a moron?... and no, not by being u. Ex-Padawan of Chaos~ |
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Gil-Galad - Student 
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Hundreds of thousands/millions of deaths in another country = hundreds/thousand of deaths in your country. Therefore, one life in your country > one life in their country. that would be erm, a pretty good definition of racism. The only way for us to react as a country is to show our solidarity, to stick two fingers up to the terrorists and tell them they will not impose their values upon us, and we will continue living the way we have done. Talk of nuking countries full of innocent people is ridiculous, although I doubt you will read that again when you are calm, and still be able say you mean it. At least I hope not =/ _______________ |JAA| since 02/05/06 Green for life |
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CuZzA - Student
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ok before anybody has a go at me here, i am 100% not racist in anyway way... Right, same as RdBeSt said, i was in sports today and somebody got it on their phone. When i came home from the sports day I turned the news on straight away. I couldn't belive what had happened...and to be perfectly honest, i want them all out of our countries. Either that or get rid of the lot of them. I have noting against the people in the middle-east, except for the fact that that's where all the terrorism is starting off. Now, sending in a nuclear bomb and blowin the whole damn country up would get you all annoyed and you'll all be like 'what about all the innocent people? What about the kids?' Well what about the people who died in 9/11? innocent? what about the people who died in madrid? innocent? what about the people who died in London yesterday? innocent?...exactly. Now, about the kids...what if they grew up to be terrorists? And, lets say, (god-forbid) there was another terrorist attack in about 15 years? A suicide-bomber attack? But this guy is what? 21, 22 years old?...hold on, he was just a kid 15 years ago...we could have prevented this attack post the london attack by getting rid of him... I'm sorry, but i'm really annoyed at the moment about what had happened, and what i said there, i f'n meant it. Again, i'm not racist, but i hope you see where i'm coming from -CuZ _______________ - Even if Carlsberg made "w*nkers", Christiano Ronaldo would still be the biggest "w*nker" in the world |
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Everon - Student - The winner!!! 
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"God says: "You who believe: If ye will aid (the cause of) Allah, He will aid you, and plant your feet firmly."" I'm going to plant them in the ground if they come near me. what they just did was just wrong. so much for the 10 commandments :/. I hope there are no more attacks any where in the uk or any where else for that matter. killing innocent people isn't the right way to get the message accross. |
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NotSoLittleCaesar - Student 
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Quote: I hate terrorists.....  I hope all our UK-ers are alright! Please check in guys. im all fine, but im not near london, my aunt lives there, i haent heard about her or her husband yet, they live a bit away from kings cross, my grandother is going up this weekend... _______________ Quote: I mostly agree oh Lord of the squeezy mop
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Nuebus - Student 
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Quote: Anyone seen Virtue and/or Menaxia checking in? Virty and Mena are fine. I heard the news from Menaxia early this morning. Virtue's been in IRC all day wanking as usual. o shush... not funny in this kinda conversation. hope all JA members that live up there r ok tho... _______________ Sanity is for the weak -Let the madness consume you... I'ma moron, i'm the master of morons, i even got a club of morons... so how do u beat me at bein a moron?... and no, not by being u. Ex-Padawan of Chaos~ |
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Dash Starlight - Jedi Instructor 
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What a terrible thing to do... _______________ The name is Bond. James Bond. This comment was edited by Dash Starlight on Jul 08 2005 10:44am. |
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