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This one goes out to all of the jerks that spit in the faces of our soldiers
Jul 11 2005 01:39pm

Ulic Belouve
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Ulic Belouve
As Linked to on CTrl+Alt+Del. Worth viewing.

http://www.filecabi.net/v.php?file=MichaelCrook.wmv

OR

http://www.filecabi.net/host/file/MichaelCrook/wmv

Edit:

I do have my opinions on this, yes, but I agree with the following points I leave here. I see a lot below in reaction to this, where you think this moron deserves a harsh treatment or even death. Do take these points to heart, it's what America is really about.....
Written by a Marine in reaction to all the reactions.....
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If you support beating or killing someone simply because of their sick jokes, however sick the jokes, then you do not care about democracy. Paying lip service and saluting to flags and claiming to be a patriot does not mean you are defending the country, it just means you're following orders.

One thing that makes me proud to be an American is that when the fascists came to power, and took over the armed forces there with their fascist philosophy, that the US troops went over there and put them down before they took control of the world. I hate to think that we would turn around and let our our troops become fascists too, and for no real good reason.

You can't claim to be defending freedom while at the same time you supress freedom by encouraging extrajudicial retribution against a domestic dissenter. That makes you a hypocrite. Deal with it. You can't just keep repeating to yourself "I'm right - I'm right - I'm right" and somehow magically it will happen. It doens't work that way. You have to actually think things through sometimes and swallow your pride.

If it's not too big for you to handle, that is.


Well said, Marine, well said.
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This post was edited by Ulic Belouve on Jul 12 2005 03:15am.

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Jul 12 2005 03:54am

Gradius
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 Gradius

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On Monday evening, the webmaster of Forsake The Troops was brutally assaulted by two men, thought to be members of the military, in response to their opinions about this website. Mr. Crook had been the target of numerous death threats and trespassers at his residence. All of these threats were saved and have been turned over to the authorities.
UPDATE:

At 6:19pm Eastern time, Michael Crook died of his injuries, after being rushed by ambulance to the leading hospital in the area for head trauma. The two men who allegedly assaulted him are currently in the custody of police. Mr. Crook died with his wife and infant daughter present.

It is therefore the decision of his family, and associates that Forsake The Troops goes offline, to prevent further incidents of violence and threats against his family. Therefore, this domain will permanantly go offline at around 5pm Eastern time, on Tuesday, May 17th, 2005.


Haha, I told you Moby. :D
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Jul 12 2005 03:36am

Buzz
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 Buzz

No Thomas that's not true. It would have gotten coverage and it got nothing. Also if you saw the guy, the chance of him having a wife are less than zero.
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Jul 12 2005 03:23am

Ulic Belouve
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I edited the above to put in a good point. To wish to suppress or bring harm to the dissenter is just hypocritical.

When I was trained in the military, I was told the toughest thing we might have to do is to protect people who are burning our flag, protesting and insulting the military personally, from the fellow public. To stand there and keep respectful citizens from beating the crap out of those that are burning the flag and insulting the military....would be tough.

While I have regrets on posting the initial find and helping to spark further disdain for Micheal Crook, I do find it necessary to do so to illustrate points.

How strong must the men and women of our Armed Services be to rise above their hate, and continue to stand up for people like him. To fight and die, to shed blood and sweat and tears, just so a man can say these things about his world.

For this, the Armed Services deserve all the honor given to them.
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Jul 12 2005 02:16am

Thomasooo
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Quote:
Quote:
On Monday evening, the webmaster of Forsake The Troops was brutally assaulted by two men, thought to be members of the military, in response to their opinions about this website. Mr. Crook had been the target of numerous death threats and trespassers at his residence. All of these threats were saved and have been turned over to the authorities.
UPDATE:

At 6:19pm Eastern time, Michael Crook died of his injuries, after being rushed by ambulance to the leading hospital in the area for head trauma. The two men who allegedly assaulted him are currently in the custody of police. Mr. Crook died with his wife and infant daughter present.

It is therefore the decision of his family, and associates that Forsake The Troops goes offline, to prevent further incidents of violence and threats against his family. Therefore, this domain will permanantly go offline at around 5pm Eastern time, on Tuesday, May 17th, 2005.

Is this true? :eek:
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Jul 12 2005 02:12am

Jade Jedi
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This guy is a compleat a$$ Im glad to say his web site has been shut down.
Some of you may know that I serve in an Infantry unit and that I have been overseas on active service a few times. I have also come home to hear people complain about the money and benefits we recive whilst puting our lives in danger. I would love to have these people for a month to show them exactly what we go through, they wouldnt last a week.
I just hope that the first returned service men to find this clown dont beat him to within an inch of his worthless life to quickly, I would like it to be as slow as posible, then let him recover and do it all over again.

Here is my 1000 post.
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Jul 12 2005 01:02am

xAnAtOs
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If I had only known people from this internet community, I would've thought that it was impossible for someone to be that stupid, but I don't. I know quite a few people (on the internet or otherwise) who think similarly to this guy. It's not because they don't understand that the troops allow them to be the morons that they are, they simply ignore this and go on rallying for a cause they have no concept of.

I'm just glad that tv interviewer laid the smackdown on Michael Crook, I quite enjoyed it.
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Jul 11 2005 11:16pm

Dicemaster
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even if it is a joke, this guy should die and burn in hell for all eternity. I have the utmost respect for our troops, and believe that if he has a problem with there payments, he shouldn't take it out on the individual private who can't do anything about it. Its not his fault, that when he "signed the dotted line" it got him a ton of benefits. (which i might add, the soldier deserves completely) he should take it to the governement. They can change it, not the soldiers. If he thinks hes going to rally support for his cause by cheering when a soldier dies he is wrong for sure. This man is sick, evil, and a waste of oxygen on this planet.

also, he said something along the lines of (not a direct quote, but close) "another injured soldier being carried away in shame. What happened to big and tough?" I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HIM GET SHOT AND WALK AWAY. I hope this guy does try to press charges against the men that might have done this. They will have backing from the entire damn country. I wouldn't convict them.
Michael crook, or whoever he is, should die a very slow and painful death for being such a cold heartless bas***d
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Jul 11 2005 11:12pm

AvaloN
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 AvaloN

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He can't be serious about it, there's just no logic to it at all.


Yeah exactly, this all seems a bit too weird to be true.

For the rest of my opinion, read Plo Koon's comment, an outstanding one :)

This comment was edited by AvaloN on Jul 11 2005 11:13pm.

Jul 11 2005 10:27pm

Virtue
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 Virtue

I refuse to believe that any grown man or woman can be that uncannily stupid.

Having said that, I don't believe this at all.
It has to be some sort of joke. Fair enough, it's one of the stupidest jokes that one could think up, but that's what people are doing these days, trying to think up the most outrageous things they can, and make money from it.
He can't be serious about it, there's just no logic to it at all.

In my opinion, he's just trying to cash in on an outrageous idea.

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This comment was edited by Virtue on Jul 11 2005 10:28pm.

Jul 11 2005 09:33pm

Jeramia Adept
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 Jeramia Adept

Michael Crook is a moron, that is for sure.
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Jul 11 2005 09:15pm

Gradius
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 Gradius

Hahaha Moby, you go man! Make that punk cry! But be careful, he can sue you for phone harrassment.
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Jul 11 2005 09:12pm

Everon
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if i could hack any thing i would hack that site down to the core. /me looks for a hacking manual :mad:

Jul 11 2005 09:11pm

Buzz
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 Buzz

http://members.aol.com/viperspages/about/forsakethetroops.html

I'd say this guy is correct in his evaluation of michael crook. Scum out to make a buck.
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Jul 11 2005 08:59pm

Lian Del Rey
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 Lian Del Rey

That lowly bastard may think that he has the right to free speech, but it is apparent that he has absolutely NO right to LIVE.
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Jul 11 2005 08:07pm

DaRtH-MoBiLiTy
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 DaRtH-MoBiLiTy

EDIT: For all those outraged, I have his info:

his company is smishosting.com (Silent Mike’s Internet Service)

(315) 703-8113
Mailing Address
201 East Jefferson Street
Unit #301
Syracuse, NY 13202

I called this number to complain about, "Web Hosting"..told his office personnel that I needed to speak with Michael Crook right away and that my site was down and that he told me that if I ever had any problems, to call him directly. She said he was out to lunch and would make sure that he called me back right away. So ...... he is there.....

/me sets the wheels in motion....

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OH AND BY THE WAY....as far as MICHAEL CROOK GOES:

Quote:
On Monday evening, the webmaster of Forsake The Troops was brutally assaulted by two men, thought to be members of the military, in response to their opinions about this website. Mr. Crook had been the target of numerous death threats and trespassers at his residence. All of these threats were saved and have been turned over to the authorities.
UPDATE:

At 6:19pm Eastern time, Michael Crook died of his injuries, after being rushed by ambulance to the leading hospital in the area for head trauma. The two men who allegedly assaulted him are currently in the custody of police. Mr. Crook died with his wife and infant daughter present.

It is therefore the decision of his family, and associates that Forsake The Troops goes offline, to prevent further incidents of violence and threats against his family. Therefore, this domain will permanantly go offline at around 5pm Eastern time, on Tuesday, May 17th, 2005.


from This Source

But then there is this....... POS

So who knows.

One can only hope.....

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This comment was edited by DaRtH-MoBiLiTy on Jul 11 2005 08:26pm.

Jul 11 2005 08:00pm

DaRtH-MoBiLiTy
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 DaRtH-MoBiLiTy

I LOVE SEAN HANITY!!!!

Michael Crook..........

I can't even say what I feel like saying about that A$$.

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Jul 11 2005 07:51pm

Ecks
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 Ecks

That ignorant troglodyte is about as low as people can go. I don't really take a stand on the war on Iraq, I just care about the civilians who are affected. However, this guy, probably sitting in his room, typing on a computer, still has the nerve to insult the very people who are making it possible for him to live the life of luxury he lives. While the cause may be controversial, there is nothing controversial about soldiers fighting and dying for their country. "That's what they were getting into when they signed the dotted line?" That's sick. I hope this scumbag one day realizes that he would be in a hole with nothing if it weren't for soldiers fighting for his rights. What a bastard. :mad:
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Jul 11 2005 07:46pm

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the sick bastard.. stick him into iraq and see how he likes it....:mad:
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Jul 11 2005 07:38pm

Plo Koon
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 Plo Koon

That sick sadistic bastard.

That guy would be speaking german under a dictatorship where they would hang you outside of your families house for speaking what you wanted, (even before that, britain would of won) If it where not for soldiers who sacrificed their lives to defend freedom of speech, he wouldn't be able to speak what he wanted today.

I do appose the war, and I strongly believe that my goverment, and it's leader, lied to get into Iraq, rushed in without a full ready plan, and even fired a top 4-star general because he said we needed more people there. But I also believe we can't leave now that it's started. The service men of the United States of America have my full support because without them, I wouldn't be typing this now.

I mean, Look at his last name, "Crook"
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This comment was edited by Plo Koon on Jul 11 2005 07:40pm.

Jul 11 2005 07:32pm

Lian Del Rey
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 Lian Del Rey

I guess that nerd couldn't look or sound any better either.
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Jul 11 2005 07:17pm

Gradius
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 Gradius

I can't say that Crook got everything he deserved from that beating with the Fox guys. He'll have alot more coming his way, which I'm thankful of Fox for bringing this dumbass to everyone's attention.
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Jul 11 2005 04:29pm

DarthMike
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geez what a bastard
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Jul 11 2005 02:06pm

Kainz00r
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That was a weird "interview"...

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Jul 11 2005 02:02pm

Tido
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 Tido

Yup, that pissed me off.

And I can already see how this thread is going to pan out: someone is gonna completely overlook what that kid is saying and claim something like Hannity didn't allow the kid to explain what he was about or was offensive to him. But Sean Hannity laid it out clear; the founders of this country believed you have a God-given right to the freedom of speech. However, that doesn't mean that freedom of speech is just something that happens and falls out of the air. It's an idea that is protected everyday by the men and women in our military. Elsewhere in the world there are a lot of people who would be delighted to take that "right" away in a heartbeat.

This comment was edited by Tido on Jul 11 2005 02:08pm.

Jul 11 2005 01:58pm

Thomasooo
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 Thomasooo

That was a weird "interview"...
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