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Dooku - Too Dangerous to keep alive ?
Jul 11 2005 02:31pm

Ian Jandos
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With both his hands missing, would it have really been too dangerous to keep him alive?

It brings up a question though. Although, I suppose you have to have a human hand to shoot lightning...the choke or other force movements don't require human limbs (i.e. Vader from original trilogy).

Maybe with his being betrayed by the Emperor...he may have defected back to the light side.

Thoughts?

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Jul 15 2005 10:33pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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and any way, you never see someone with a limb cut off doing anything. Obi got his hand off in ep2 and he was gone. Also, ani coulda done more dmg to him i.e. cut off arms,legs,also keep in mind anikan did not plan on the ship breakin in half or gen. grievous catching him.
Obi Wan never got his hand cut off...

it looks that way for a good second in Episode 2, the duel with Dooku, I'll admit.
I thought the same at first too, but he didn't lose his arm. He uses that arm to clutch at his leg ... :P
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Jul 15 2005 06:04pm

Ashyr
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and any way, you never see someone with a limb cut off doing anything. Obi got his hand off in ep2 and he was gone. Also, ani coulda done more dmg to him i.e. cut off arms,legs,also keep in mind anikan did not plan on the ship breakin in half or gen. grievous catching him.
Obi Wan never got his hand cut off...
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Jul 15 2005 02:19pm

Phantom
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Kill him Do it you all know you want to. His stuiped gray hair wrinkily face with that big cape on it makes him look like a fool so just kill him
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Jul 15 2005 12:34pm

Krazzed
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lol and look at u 2 bickering like little kids



any way i said other he should have captured him like the jedi do and take him to the jedi temple and let the masters decide his fate

just my thoughts

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Jul 15 2005 12:04pm

Phantom
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And look at him getting owned in Epsoide 3.
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Jul 15 2005 10:46am

Tyrant
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I think what Anikin did was right that weak fool desirved to die. Sith are ment to be a elite core of powerful masters of the darkside. They devote their lives to traning and power. If you cant beat a simpile Jedi Knight then your not much of a Sith.
Weak fool?! Wanna bet that Dooku pwns you son? Just look at him in Episode 2 :)

Jul 15 2005 12:32am

Phantom
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Yea I thought about that and at the time Anikin doesnt know hes the chosen-one And I dont think Dooku knew it either because then he wouldnt have challenged the chosen-one and a Jedi Master and general. So therefore it wouldnt have mattered.
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Jul 14 2005 10:42pm

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I think what Anikin did was right that weak fool desirved to die. Sith are ment to be a elite core of powerful masters of the darkside. They devote their lives to traning and power. If you cant beat a simpile Jedi Knight then your not much of a Sith.


Just noticed this post,

Anakin is a simple Jedi Knight? Nah!!! He is the Chosen One, the constraints of the Jedi Order pushed him toward the Darkness.

It's like this, When Palpatine says "He is to dangerous to be kept alive, kill him." Anakin gets exactly what he has wanted permission


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Jul 14 2005 10:41pm

El Vee For
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"Only a Sith deals in absolutes."

Anakin's actions only prove that his destiny is with the Sith. The only way to become the Sith Apprentice is to destroy the Sith Apprentice. Anakin killed Dooku so he could take his place, right or wrong is merely perception and perspective after all.

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Jul 14 2005 04:11pm

NotSoLittleCaesar
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If Anakin had let Dooku live, how would he transport him to Coruscant without having to risk his life? I mean, he would have had to carry Obi-Wan on his back while having to keep his eyes open for droids (and General Grievous). Moreover, it's not like Palpatine could've just pulled out his red lightsaber and keep Dooku from running, becaus e in that case, Anakin would find out that he was a sith lord.

It's a situation no jedi would like to be in.

EDIT: Anakin says that Dooku was "an unarmed prisoner (hehehehe...indeed he was unarmed :P)". Look at it this way: Dooku was armed with the Force, which is more powerful than any weapon. Therefore, Anakin did the right thing in killing Dooku.


right thing moraly, wrong thing jedi way :)
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Jul 14 2005 02:22pm

Phantom
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I think what Anikin did was right that weak fool desirved to die. Sith are ment to be a elite core of powerful masters of the darkside. They devote their lives to traning and power. If you cant beat a simpile Jedi Knight then your not much of a Sith.
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Jul 14 2005 10:18am

DarthMike
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and any way, you never see someone with a limb cut off doing anything. Obi got his hand off in ep2 and he was gone. Also, ani coulda done more dmg to him i.e. cut off arms,legs,also keep in mind anikan did not plan on the ship breakin in half or gen. grievous catching him.
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Jul 14 2005 03:20am

Ecks
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Dooku never would've gone back. Once you became as bad as him... nothing short of a big knock to the head would redeem you. Personally, I thought the right thing to do was to let him in custody, since it'd be safe to say he couldn't really duel or shoot Force Lightning, or even do the mind trick without his hands :P
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Jul 13 2005 07:27pm

Ashyr
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Palpatine made him kill him for the sole purpose of turning Anakin to the Dark Side. Palpatine saw that Anakin beat his former apprentice, so he wanted a new, more powerful one.
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Jul 12 2005 07:33pm

SaZ
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Anikin was persuade by the Chanceller to kill him, and to use the dark side to defeat him (read the book). It was the Chanceller who really killed Dooku even if Anikin fought.


books are no truth.
anyway yes... it was persuasion power of palpys...
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Jul 12 2005 12:30pm

Phantom
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Anikin was persuade by the Chanceller to kill him, and to use the dark side to defeat him (read the book). It was the Chanceller who really killed Dooku even if Anikin fought.
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Jul 12 2005 11:53am

Bail Hope of Belouve
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And yet he did not do the right thing, as the Jedi "do not execute their prisoners. No matter what their crimes" -> Bastila :P

He says it himself, that he should have done that. But Obi-Wan doesn't seem to care one bit :D

But seriously though, Obi-Wan being crushed seemed like ... something a five year old had drawn.
I personally think (and I can't draw stick figures) that even I could have made something a bit more realistic.
If something of that magnitude would fall on my side, I would:
a) be crushed
b) at least break something
c) at the very least LIMP when I'm being saved.

I expect that in 20 years, this shall be fixed, when the Original Trilogy and New Trilogy are made (yet) again and released on Super-D00per-DVD.:D
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Jul 12 2005 02:35am

Thomasooo
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If Anakin had let Dooku live, how would he transport him to Coruscant without having to risk his life? I mean, he would have had to carry Obi-Wan on his back while having to keep his eyes open for droids (and General Grievous). Moreover, it's not like Palpatine could've just pulled out his red lightsaber and keep Dooku from running, becaus e in that case, Anakin would find out that he was a sith lord.

It's a situation no jedi would like to be in.

EDIT: Anakin says that Dooku was "an unarmed prisoner (hehehehe...indeed he was unarmed :P)". Look at it this way: Dooku was armed with the Force, which is more powerful than any weapon. Therefore, Anakin did the right thing in killing Dooku.
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Jul 11 2005 10:13pm

SaZ
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where he could run?
if he runs... anakin could just throw saber thus makin his death even more fancy :P
he could use his force powers?
cmon obiwan was pushed like some dummy
and count didnt even try that on anakin, so anakin must have been immune to his force powers ;)
anyway... palpatine could just help anakin to finish him off... i bet he even had his saber ;)

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Jul 11 2005 09:26pm

Tyrant
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he was too dangorous to be kept alive, he could still use force abilities. and still get some robotic hands put back on.
to be correct about force abilities, all force abilites can be used without using the hands, using the hand is just a focus point, perhaps to concentrate better. for examples on Episode 6 luke just closed his eyes and lifted 3po into the sky,another perfect example is in episode 5, vader didnt use his hands to choke an admiral through th e ship.
Yup if they would keep him alive he would get those robotic hands, and would hide and train a little while, then come back and pwn Anakin. But I liked Count Dooku, he should live :(

This comment was edited by Tyrant on Jul 11 2005 09:27pm.

Jul 11 2005 08:34pm

NotSoLittleCaesar
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woudl u like firing lightning out of METAL hands :P? impression 'BWHAHA*ZAP*...AHH!! *electric shock himself*
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Jul 11 2005 08:33pm

Jeramia Adept
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he was too dangorous to be kept alive, he could still use force abilities. and still get some robotic hands put back on.
to be correct about force abilities, all force abilites can be used without using the hands, using the hand is just a focus point, perhaps to concentrate better. for examples on Episode 6 luke just closed his eyes and lifted 3po into the sky,another perfect example is in episode 5, vader didnt use his hands to choke an admiral through th e ship.
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Jul 11 2005 06:37pm

AvaloN
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Indeed, Palpy-boy was using h4x again! ;)

Jul 11 2005 04:13pm

SaZ
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no he wasnt dangerous he had no hands. Palpy perssuaded ani into it.


yep.
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Jul 11 2005 02:39pm

DarthMike
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no he wasnt dangerous he had no hands. Palpy perssuaded ani into it.
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