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Ian Jandos - Student  |
I know that there are saber only CTF games... but I've always been a purist in terms of the onscreen Jedi ideals. In this case, I'm referring to how Jedi didn't use guns in the films. Is it possible to play an effective game of CTF with just using saber and force vs. players with guns. If so, how would you cope with all of the gun/rocket spamming/whoring? I mean, you only have so much force to fend off the guns...so you're going to have to think of something clever when you get to their base. -Ian _______________ Member #7625 | Since 7.6.04 The Archives This post was edited by Buzz on Jul 13 2005 05:12am. |
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D@RtHM@UL - Student 
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Quote: No but what I'm saying is that in a normal ctf game, if the only available powers were jump and speed you wouldn't really notice a huge change in the way the game is played. About weapons being pulled away, one of the most efficient guns against a saber user (other than explosive area weapons) is the blaster pistol, even more so in JA than JKII cos you've got infinite ammo. Obviously, yeah a jedi that spams force against a forceless, unarmed gunner will have a slight advantage but not as great as you might think. There are ways to stop getting pulled over as well. You only actually fall over when you are close to the puller, if you jump as they pull you you won't fall over most of the time and as they pull they are vulnerable so just run around with your pistol charged up and let rip when you hear the 'woooooooosh' of a pull. If everyone played the JM mod for JA or the Jedi Master gamemode in JKII then they'd know how to fight against a jedi  The good ol' times! |
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Jake Kainite - Student 
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No but what I'm saying is that in a normal ctf game, if the only available powers were jump and speed you wouldn't really notice a huge change in the way the game is played. About weapons being pulled away, one of the most efficient guns against a saber user (other than explosive area weapons) is the blaster pistol, even more so in JA than JKII cos you've got infinite ammo. Obviously, yeah a jedi that spams force against a forceless, unarmed gunner will have a slight advantage but not as great as you might think. There are ways to stop getting pulled over as well. You only actually fall over when you are close to the puller, if you jump as they pull you you won't fall over most of the time and as they pull they are vulnerable so just run around with your pistol charged up and let rip when you hear the 'woooooooosh' of a pull. If everyone played the JM mod for JA or the Jedi Master gamemode in JKII then they'd know how to fight against a jedi _______________ Apprenctice of Jedi Master Ascari (deceased) Descended from a line of great Jedi Will argue any point of view from any side
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Masta - Jedi Council 
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Quote: If you've noticed, the only powers that gunners use consistantly are speed and jump and thats just so they can navigate the level. Well Jake im pretty sure the gunners set their remaining force points into other stuff like push/pull as well. You dont have to use force, to take advantage of these force points. Know that if you dont have anything set into push/pull you are far more easily pushed or pulled away which can even result in a knockback of yours. The only way to NOT get your gun pulled away or to NOT get knocked back by a push would be to stay away from the jedis as far as possible = snipers. _______________ Find out more about the Jedi Academy Aurochs here and more about Masta here! Married to Kain. |
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SaZ - Student 
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yep jake kainite tells the truth  i bet most of us dont know how to counter gunners too  _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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Tallepyon - Student 
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Strafe jumping can outrun a jedi using force speed. |
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Jake Kainite - Student
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I'd still put my money on a leet gunner with no force over a saber wielding jedi anyday. If you've noticed, the only powers that gunners use consistantly are speed and jump and thats just so they can navigate the level. You really need the input of a proper good gunner here, cos not being rude but almost anyone who reads this thread will be a saber user _______________ Apprenctice of Jedi Master Ascari (deceased) Descended from a line of great Jedi Will argue any point of view from any side
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SaZ - Student 
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pull/push spam all the way... only sniper can counter that... but jedi got sense... _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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ozzcoz - Cosplay Nerd 
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Who said a Jedi can't use guns? _______________ A wizard did it. |
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Masta - Jedi Council
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Yes thats pretty true what Virtue said. Just the lack of force-jump would bring the gunners into trouble. Not gonna mention force-speed or absorb. The Jedis would easily win against forceless mercs because push/pull can be a real pain if youre not able to defend against it aswell. (exceptions are the uber leet snipers =x ph34r) _______________ Find out more about the Jedi Academy Aurochs here and more about Masta here! Married to Kain. |
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Virtue - Jedi Council 
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He means Saber + Force Vs Guns + No Force. Like, you, I am very traditional like that, I hate that most of the JK3 Gunning community relies on using the Force to win. Sadly, a Jedi Vs Merc CTF would probably never happen, gunners in JK3 aren't really gunners at all, take the best gunner in JK3, take away his/her ability to use Force powers, and you basically just have a n00b - It's not their fault though, it's the way the game was (shoddily) built. A better Jedi/Merc system is needed, I don't know if we'll ever get on in a future Star Wars game, personally though, I live in hope. - Virtue.  _______________ Academy Architect |
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Tallepyon - Student
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A good gunner will kill a saberer very easily. People who use sabers in ctf as an offensive weapon are looked down upon by the veterans because it is inferior against guns. |
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