| The search for Anakin's father | |
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Trooper! - Student  |
In EP1 the council had great trouble believing that Anakin was the the chosen one, born of the force, created by the midichlorians. If he truly was wouldn't the council know imediately? They even question the prophecy. That being said, it would appear that Qui-Gonn was the only one who believed the "There was no father" story. So if there was a father who do you think it could have been? Perhaps a drunken Qui-Gonn on leave buying drinks for a slave girl who doesn't remember a thing, wink wink, nudge nudge say no more? _______________ Honor those better than you would yourself. |
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A list of possible fathers....
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Grycen - Student 
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She was raped by a pretty big party, including, but not limited to: Yoda, Sidious, Windu, Qui-Gon and Motrec. _______________ Owner of Pink Floyd's 480th comment, Darth Sirius's 250th comment, my paddy bro Stig's 225th comment, BDKawika's 200th comment and Jedifire's 100th comment. |
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Zadus - Student 
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MOTREC MOTREC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! _______________ Owner of Raydoes 315 and BDKawkia's 500 comments! |
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El Vee For - Student 
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balance does not necessarily mean equal number of light or dark the force is out of balance cuz its practitioners are far to extreme, seeking galactic domination, far too involved with politics, 10,000 proud Jedi vs 2 purely evil Sith. Lets not forget the reason for the rule of two. Its about survival, too many evil force users and everyone of them wanting to be the most powerful... _______________ “Arguing on the internet is like competing in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you’re still retarded.” |
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Evil Squirrel - Student 
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Something crossed my mind while reading this thread, when you think about it, to bring balance to the force wouldn't that be a equal number of jedi-sith? how many jedi/sith were there in the originals? 2 (vader / palpatine), jedi 2 (Yoda / Luke) then yoda dies, followed by palpatine, then vader... so uh... kill luke and my theory is right?  _______________ "I'm leaning more towards the cookie side" - leif two time winner of the "SilkMonkey Award for Best Evil Squirrel Based Avatar Picture" award! Geology Rocks! |
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El Vee For - Student
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there is quite a bit speculation but suffice to say that the coucil did not believe Anakin to be the chosen one and for this, thier arrogance that they would know the "one" when they saw him, they were destroyed. If Yoda had helped Anakin through his troubles, instead of spouting that "you must train yourself to let go of that which you fear to lose..." and if Mace could have put his trust in Anakin, He might be playin dominoes instead of a street cleaning droid mopping him up off of a Coruscant sidewalk. _______________ “Arguing on the internet is like competing in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you’re still retarded.” |
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Deathsp - Student 
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The funny thing is that he actually was teh chosen one. But the jedi only got part of the prophecy. Apparently the chosen one was suppose to greatly weaken the sith, then in turn join them and lead them to a new rise against the jedi. But thats the part the sith got. The final part the jedi got right. Which is the "bring balance to the force" part. Look at Aniken's life and you'll see he fills up all of these. _______________ "I don't believe in hell, but I don't believe in heaven either. For whatever the tortures of hell, the boredom of heaven is worse." |
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Nuebus - Student 
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u ppl r all arguing about a THEORY. it was stated that Anakin was created BY the force not by Darth Plagius manipulation or else he would neevr have needed 2 b 'converted' 2 the dark side. Plagius was Sidious' master and considering they're both practically dark side entities, anything thats of their creation would b creations of the dark side. shmi herself would prolly b rendered either insane or in2 a non force sensitive version of tavion. and anyway the dark side focuses on the cause of death, lack of life and destruction, shoudl Palgius have used teh force 2 create Anakin he would have had 2w employ the light side of the force which i truly doubt consideirng the light side follows pacifism, peace and preservation. *Quote from HK-50: Statement:Jedi follow the self destructive path of pacifism and surrender. (S)He will not attack first.* Plagius must have been old 2 b caught by surprise by Sidious and look at the corruption of Sidious, he's not even that old during the Old Republic so I highly doubt they would or COULD even touch the lightside. neither of them r Gray Jedi like Revan or The Exile so they're both only connected 2 one side and in this case, the dark side. just one more point that i'll argue. The prophecy had been around before Yoda was born so how was Plagius around then? i believe i've pointed out sufficient evidence and wasted 5 min of ur life so u all have 2 pay me $5 american.  _______________ Sanity is for the weak -Let the madness consume you... I'ma moron, i'm the master of morons, i even got a club of morons... so how do u beat me at bein a moron?... and no, not by being u. Ex-Padawan of Chaos~ |
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Plo Koon - Student 
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Can you think of another reason why plageius would create Anikan if not to be the most powerful sith of all time to destroy the jedi? I can't so I'll take the other story, he destroyed the sith in the end anyways. _______________ Free Tibet! Click this link,and learn Here too This comment was edited by Plo Koon on Jul 30 2005 03:36am. |
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Ecks - Student 
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I don't think the sith believe in balance. The Sith's very presence DISRUPTS the balance of the Force, because they bend the Force to their will, rather than letting the Force guide the universe. So by wiping the Sith out, the Force is restored to balance. That is how a third party would view both sides of the prophecy. To the Sith, balance in the Force means that they are in control - the strongest survive. So, if the prophecy is indeed Sith, then Anakin would have to wipe out the Jedi and any other powerful force. As we saw, this happened as well. So, after reading all this, what do we get? The answer is... the prophecy could go either way. My name is Ecks, and I just wasted your time. lol, but seriously, all I did was just explain how each side would see the prophecy. _______________ "To become a greater man, you must be a lesser one first." |
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SaZ - Student 
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Quote: yeah...that's what it is isn't it? are you saying the jedi's version of balance is the same as the sith's? lol ermmm i mean that somehow sith and jedi has different dictionary so they understand word 'balance' in different way. the prophecy tho is of unknown sources so ermmm we dont know if this prophecy is of sith or of jedi origin... 50/50 _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana This comment was edited by SaZ on Jul 29 2005 11:44pm. |
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Raydoe_Mintaka - Student 
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Don't you member Yoda and Windu talkinga bout they might have read the prophecy wrong cause maybe Plaguiese didn't mean for the siths to be destroyed in the long run so maybe the prophecy was going to bring balance but a large cost? _______________ There is no dominant stance of power. The Power is in the user.... Holder of Lucky-Adept 222th post and 92 Lucky Charm yay XD.Zadus 50th comment!Pink Floyd Mintaka700th comment Rin_Mintaka 900th comment! ARGGGGGHHH MATEY!!!!!!! Quote: You are pretty tricky with red single heh
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Plo Koon - Student
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yeah...that's what it is isn't it? are you saying the jedi's version of balance is the same as the sith's? _______________ Free Tibet! Click this link,and learn Here too |
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SaZ - Student 
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Quote: I'm laughing so hard at your theories guys... Palpatine was not the father, he said "To cheat death is a power only one has achieved, but if we work together, I know we can discover the secret". Palpatine didn't know how so that rules him out. lucas said himself "there are two possibilities and I'll leave it up to the individual person to choose wich one they want". The first is plageuis created anikan to try and make the most powerful sith lord of all to wipe out the jedi, to bring balance, hence, "your fulfilling your destiny anikan", because to the sith, balance = no lightside and no jedi. But the other theory is Anikan was conceived by the force itself, the ancient prophecy of the one who will bring balance to the force, and to good and most people including the jedi, that balance was to destroy the sith, bringing real peace, compassion, and order to the galaxy. Lucas said he will leave these two possibilities for youself to decide. Personally I believe it was the force that created anikan, because nature has a way of balancing things out, so it created anikan to, should we say, filter out the bad stuff. In the end you know why the real theory is he was created by the force? because he is the destroyer of the sith. He killed all of them, including himself to end the sith forever. Darth plageius wouldn't of created a person to end the sith. lmao read whole your post yourself and youll see you are writing a bit of nonsense to the jedi - balance = no sith. to the sith - balance = no jedi. different meaning to both of guys... that means plagueius could have created anakin coz he thought he will bring balance. sith version of balance even. _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana This comment was edited by SaZ on Jul 29 2005 06:23pm. |
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Plo Koon - Student
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I'm laughing so hard at your theories guys... Palpatine was not the father, he said "To cheat death is a power only one has achieved, but if we work together, I know we can discover the secret". Palpatine didn't know how so that rules him out. lucas said himself "there are two possibilities and I'll leave it up to the individual person to choose wich one they want". The first is plageuis created anikan to try and make the most powerful sith lord of all to wipe out the jedi, to bring balance, hence, "your fulfilling your destiny anikan", because to the sith, balance = no lightside and no jedi. But the other theory is Anikan was conceived by the force itself, the ancient prophecy of the one who will bring balance to the force, and to good and most people including the jedi, that balance was to destroy the sith, bringing real peace, compassion, and order to the galaxy. Lucas said he will leave these two possibilities for youself to decide. Personally I believe it was the force that created anikan, because nature has a way of balancing things out, so it created anikan to, should we say, filter out the bad stuff. In the end you know why the real theory is he was created by the force? because he is the destroyer of the sith. He killed all of them, including himself to end the sith forever. Darth plageius wouldn't of created a person to end the sith. _______________ Free Tibet! Click this link,and learn Here too This comment was edited by Plo Koon on Jul 29 2005 06:00pm. |
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Ecks - Student
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Dammit people, just accept it was the Force who did it. The Force isn't dead, you know, it IS an actual entity. Maybe a Sith Lord had too much to drink one night, and the Force got a little tipsy too. He sees Shmi in the middle of the desert... and rest unfolds itself. _______________ "To become a greater man, you must be a lesser one first." |
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Jeramia Adept - Student 
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i still think it was a sith lord to create life within shmi skywalker. and about the questioning, look at the story of Christ, Many Hebrew and Egyptian had trouble excepting christs existance, even today we have people all over the world the do not except the fact he was the Son of God (from my point of veiw). _______________ The Force is my ally, and a powerful ally it is. Padawan Brother to Darth Sirius This comment was edited by Jeramia Adept on Jul 29 2005 02:17pm. |
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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student 
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Quote: am I the only one??????? no, I made a thread on this Some accepted this possibility, others didn't. _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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Raydoe_Mintaka - Student 
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Quote: Um Palpatine was anakins father they discuss some of it throught out the whole series of episode one to three if you just listen they basically say it even palpatine said he had the power to create life from medicloreans (dont know how to spell that word) and Sidious planned it from the start In episode one anakins mom said there was no father Yeah, it seems like many people did not pick up on this as a possibility. am I the only one??????? _______________ There is no dominant stance of power. The Power is in the user.... Holder of Lucky-Adept 222th post and 92 Lucky Charm yay XD.Zadus 50th comment!Pink Floyd Mintaka700th comment Rin_Mintaka 900th comment! ARGGGGGHHH MATEY!!!!!!! Quote: You are pretty tricky with red single heh
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(Jedi)Obi-JK - Student 
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Quote: Um Palpatine was anakins father they discuss some of it throught out the whole series of episode one to three if you just listen they basically say it even palpatine said he had the power to create life from medicloreans (dont know how to spell that word) and Sidious planned it from the start In episode one anakins mom said there was no father Yeah, it seems like many people did not pick up on this as a possibility. _______________ Silent Bob (Kevin Smith): You know, there's a million fine looking women in the world, dude. But they don't all bring you lasagna at work. Most of 'em just cheat on you. -Steve (Obi) |
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Raydoe_Mintaka - Student
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Um Palpatine was anakins father they discuss some of it throught out the whole series of episode one to three if you just listen they basically say it even palpatine said he had the power to create life from medicloreans (dont know how to spell that word) and Sidious planned it from the start In episode one anakins mom said there was no father _______________ There is no dominant stance of power. The Power is in the user.... Holder of Lucky-Adept 222th post and 92 Lucky Charm yay XD.Zadus 50th comment!Pink Floyd Mintaka700th comment Rin_Mintaka 900th comment! ARGGGGGHHH MATEY!!!!!!! Quote: You are pretty tricky with red single heh
Your style reminds me of 3th's ~R2D2 This comment was edited by Raydoe_Mintaka on Jul 28 2005 03:58pm. |
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Phantom - Student 
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He proably ment it like Yes Master because hes a slave. Geee Maybe thats why its a delteed secene lol _______________ -Phantom Ex-Master to Threat. Proud owner of Sazabi's 1500th comment! And Threats 50th comment "Insanity: a perfect rational adjustment to an insane world" |
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Tyrant - Ex-Student 
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Watto. I watched the the Episode I dvd again, and with deleted scenes is a scene where Watto says something like: Clean that up! And Anakin says: Yes father o_O?! |
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Nuebus - Student
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Quote: (i forget where babies are actually formed...im a moron dont mind me) i will need ur registration for ur claim of being a moron. date and birth and ur credit card nuimbers. _______________ Sanity is for the weak -Let the madness consume you... I'ma moron, i'm the master of morons, i even got a club of morons... so how do u beat me at bein a moron?... and no, not by being u. Ex-Padawan of Chaos~ This comment was edited by Nuebus on Jul 25 2005 08:42am. |
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Phantom - Student 
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I guess you can call Obi-wan of Qui-gon his father since masters tend to have brotherly/father like relationships wiht their pupils. But in reality he was born out of the maniclorians and their was no father (not biological). _______________ -Phantom Ex-Master to Threat. Proud owner of Sazabi's 1500th comment! And Threats 50th comment "Insanity: a perfect rational adjustment to an insane world" |
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Krazzed - Student 
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well anakin was the chosen 1 becuz in the very end (ep 6) he killed papaltine in which destroying the sith and then he went back to the light but he had to have som1 belive that he was rong and luke did that but anakin didnt have a father
Quote: In EP1 the council had great trouble believing that Anakin was the the chosen one, born of the force, created by the midichlorians becuzhe was created in his mothers tummy (i forget where babies are actually formed...im a moron dont mind me)and then she gave birth to him and raised him till qui-gon took him away _______________ (\__/) (O.o ) (> < ) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination. |
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