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Plo Koon - Student  |
i am a Jedi like my father before me... Jedi are the guardians of peace in the galaxy. Jedi use their powers to defend and protect,never to attack others, Jedi respect all life,in any form. Jedi serve others than rule over them, for the good of the galaxy. Jedi seek to improve themselves through knowledge and training. There is no emotion; there is peace. There is no ignorance; there is knowledge. There is no passion; there is serenity. There is no death; there is the Force. Remember...The Force will be with you,Always. _______________ Free Tibet! Click this link,and learn Here too This post was edited by Plo Koon on May 04 2003 08:39am. |
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DrummerBoy [JAS] - Ex-Student ![DrummerBoy [JAS]](/image_thumbnail.php?f_type=users&f_width=51&f_height=70&f_image=2825.jpg)
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alright ill have to go reread those sometime, but i guess now that u bring that up, it sounds right...hmm.... _______________ --theDrummer-- All good things must come to an end...so why be good? |
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Buzz - Student 
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No Drummer I'm sorry that is not what I'm referring to. Anakin gained that ability in Edge of Victory books. And Jacen gained that in Traitor. The ability to do this is Separate from the Force. Its similar to how Tahiri works as well, they couldn't be concentrating on the Force to do these things. I'm speaking of what Anakin did before his death. He could sense the Vong through the Force. It even said during that scene that he wasn't sensing them through his lightsaber but through the Force. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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DrummerBoy [JAS] - Ex-Student
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ok, its been a while since i finished all those, and ive only ead throught them once, so yeah..im thinking you're referring to anakin being able to sense them through his lightsaber, correct? well, my thinking, as i said earlier, is that the SW universe force that the jedi feel, is just one facet of a larger force. so the combination of the SW force (in anakins lightsaber) and the Vong force (in the crystal) allows him to channel through both facets...or sumtin like that...o well, ill look back and think more about it sometime.... _______________ --theDrummer-- All good things must come to an end...so why be good? |
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Buzz - Student
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Sorry Drummer I didn't read through all your stuff because I started reading and spotted an immediate error. Going with the Midichlorian theoryas being the reason the Force can be sensed in living things and them being required, The Vong do have them. Just because the Jedi are unable to sense them doesn't mean much. Besides if you read Star By Star, its in there. You may miss it but the Vong can be sensed through the Force. Also there is a very good question in Traitor. "If the Force is life, how can life exist without the Force?" So the Vong do exist in the Force.
Edit* Now I've read through it. Not bad except for the above statement. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. This comment was edited by Buzz on Apr 04 2003 08:11am. |
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DrummerBoy [JAS] - Ex-Student
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wow...i thought I was an SW freak...well, i haven't thought too deeply about any of this stuff really, but my thoughts are somewhere along these lines. If you go by Ep1-3, theres those medichlorien things that i cant spell...now, every...umm...thing in the universe of SW (obviously not the Vong universe) has medichloriens in it, even if it's just a rock. Now, in most organisms it isn't very high. but there is the occasional one who is "force-sensitive" and they can go on to be jedi or sith or whatever. The Vong don't have medichloriens. This would be a good example of evolution based on environment. In SW universe, they evolved for some reason or another. In the Vong universe, they weren't needed. It's like the difference between africans and caucasions(sp?). Caucasions didnt have a need to protect themselves from the sun as much, so they're white, etc. (dang, this is turning into a freakin essay...) now, the theory of a "light" and a "dark" side could be true, or not true. if you would allow me, think of the theory of relativity. everything is relative. If we always saw light, nothing but light, then there would be no dark. dark is only dark relative to light. But, truly, there is no true dark, or true light anywhere in this universe. its always degrees of light or dark. even in a pitch black cave, deep under the earth there is still light, even though we may not percieve it. so, the monks view of the force as a rainbow is more accurate in regard to that. But i disagree with that, in a sense (yes, im arguing with myself) If i would be allowed, im going to quote C.S. Lewis, a great philosopher and incredibly deep thinker, from his book, Mere Christianity (which, btw, i find is very similar to the force in terms of ideals and such). "Dualism means the belief that there are twon equal and independent powers at the back of everything, one of them good and the other bad...They both existed from all eternity. Neither of them made the other, neither of them has any more right than the other to call itself God. Each presumably thinks itself good and the other bad. One likes cruelty and hatred, the other, love and mercy, and each backs its own view. Now what do we mean when we call one "Good" and the other "Bad"? Either we are merely saying that we prefer one to the other, or else, whatever anyone may think, one of the two powers is actually mistaken in believing itself good....and so (he goes on to prove the first choice wrong)...But the moment you say that [one is wrong], you are putting into the universe a 3rd thing in addition to the 2 powers: some law or standard or rule of good which one of the powers fails to conform to. But since the 2 powers are judged by this standard, then this standard (or the Being that created this standard) is farther back and higher up than both of them, and He will be the real Gdo [or power]" Now that basically states that neither of the sides of the force actually is "the Force." they are merely 2 parts or sides or facets of the Force. later, Lewis states that, "you can be good for the mere sake of goodness; tou cannot be bad for the mere sake of badness. you can do a kind action...simply because kindness is right; but no one ever did a cruel action simply because cruelty is wrong-only because cruelty was pleasant or useful to him...Goodness is, so to speak, itself; badness is only spoiled goodness. And there must be something good first before it can be spoiled." So either there is some real "force" out there, of which the light side and dark side and the SWuniverse are mere facets of, or the light side is the only siade; the supposed dark side is just going after good things (even if it is personal pleasure) in the wrong way, spoiling the goodness. Ok, thats the end of my essay, i know its a lot, please dont hurt me! _______________ --theDrummer-- All good things must come to an end...so why be good? |
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TiTo (inactive) - Student 
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I've discovered (through a Star Wars RPG book) that the Jedi Code is longer than that little phrase, and that the part that Plo said actually is in it... Those two are the only parts i've heard! _______________ Not back yet... I'll come one day, I hope... The madman formerly (and still) known as Tito! Coming to take back my title as "Most insane 'person' in the JA" It's the bizzi, wizza, jizzi, Wizzil, Bizon, wizzay, Wizzat, fizzil ¶°TiTo°¶ - All work and no play makes Tito burn the bacon!  - Officially cured from spamming!!!
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Buzz - Student 
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Vergere's method requires that there is no sides period. There is only the Force. The classic Jedi Theory is that there are 2 sides. The A'ing Ti monks see a rainbow. Obviously the Jedi's view of the Force is not complete, otherwise they would be able to sense the Vong. You can look at it really anyway you want but the bottom line is that the Force is the Force. If a Jedi uses lightside powers in a way that isn't in a Jedilike way then the Jedi is using the darkside according to the method. It becomes convoluted when you really look at it. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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Kalheka - Student 
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Buzz and I have had discussion on this "no darkside" theory. He's right in that there is more than one way to view the force. I however have to disagree with him in the "no darkside" theory. I have a theory that allows for light and dark, while still allowing for balance. _______________ Death is only the beginning. |
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Buzz - Student
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There is no darkside. That's what happens. That's the different view of the Force. You can look at it the way the Jedi look at the Force but that's not the only way that it has to be looked at. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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Jake Kainite - Student 
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No, what happens. Try and tell me without spoiling it _______________ Apprenctice of Jedi Master Ascari (deceased) Descended from a line of great Jedi Will argue any point of view from any side 
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Buzz - Student
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Jake I understand you're reading the Jedi Order, based on your opinion there you have not yet read Traitor. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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Jake Kainite - Student
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Very good Yun, very nice
Since this seems to have been converted into a thread on force theory I think I'll take advantage of it
The darkside cannot be controlled, yes it will give you vast amounts of power quickly, and will allow you to do anything or bend anyone to your will. Eventually the might of the power will consume and destroy you. Only a trained jedi with the deepest commitment and most serious mind can hope to harness the power of the force to ultimatley protect all things. I've heard people say, and in a few of their signatures, their arguments that there is no dark or lightside, its all one big force and both should be used as one. Well that is jsut one of the many temptations of the darkside  It may seem like you're doing the right thing, by using your vast power as a light jedi to strike down the evil, but this in itself is a darkside act.
True jedi refrain from using their full ofrce potential unless absolutely nessacery as the temptaion of the darkside, and of evil is ever present. You people that believe yourselves to be dark jedi, HAH I say, HAH !!!! For those of you that beleive yourselves to be Sith, I grant you an even bigger HHHAAAAAHHHH!!!! The only time darkside is ever stronger or more powerful is in a full ofrce duel in JKII Thats all. _______________ Apprenctice of Jedi Master Ascari (deceased) Descended from a line of great Jedi Will argue any point of view from any side
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Kueller - Student 
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And the goodies of the dark side have (those that Yun pointed out) all relate to eachother. Hate leads to power, and the power leads to immortality. Unfortunatly the dark die also gives corruption to you body (PALPETINE). And I wants it the ways it is. _______________ Personal sleepness-nights-supporter of Virtue. Owner of the 1000th comment of Daidalus and 1943th comment of Gradius! Owner of the 300th comment of Carda! -Taught Gradius all his laming skills
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JA > Yun - Student 
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There is no peace, there is Anger;
There is no fear, there is Power. There is no death, there is immortality; There is no weakness, there is the Dark Side _______________ Bringing newbies closer to perfection since 1998. |
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JA > Yun - Student 
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SITH CODE
(basic version) Jedi have their code. Dark Jedi have also their rules, but they are not what can command the Sith. It's our try of code. Its author - Moriathor - said: "I went after other things than people before me. I presumed that in such a code there must be something about aspects of being a member of Brotherhood, about its purposes, its form. Power, mastery in DS skills, posibilty to draw from the Light Side, being the guardians of knowledge and wisdom, control of one's feelings and being one with other Brothers is what really matters. Those are the marks of being the Sith. While I was writing this code I tried not to stress on the words, but I thought that it should contain important things. I was also trying to create something simple and brief, easy to remember. I think that Sith Code should be a short prayer before meditation and exercises, something more than just an adorment. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am the Dark Lord of the Sith, Ultimate strength in the Universe. I understand my feelings and control them, And fear is my ally. I am the Guardian of knowledge. I am the Keeper of wisdom. I protect the secrets of past and presence, For those to come. I know the might of Darkness. I see the flame of Light. Not a slave nor a servant of Force, But Master I am. I stand in unity with my Brethren, Eternal monolith of Power. I follow the path of Force in shadows, For I am the Sith. Lord of Death - Moriathor -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SITH CODE (extended version - for Lords) It seems that not only Moriathor is so talented. Another Sith Code was created by Lord of Darkness Alvaraax. It is longer and more complicated, so it was approved as an Oath of the Lords. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Let them see what is not there And feel what does not touch them. When they no longer trust their senses, That is the time to strike. I am of the Everlasting, I am the Darkness, The Eternal Night that spans the distance between the stars. I cannot be overcome for there is none greater than I . The Light of the Stars may push back the Night, But in the end all things are returned to me, I of the Darkness, I am the Lord of the Night. I am of that which you cannot fathom, For I am the Chaos that remains hidden by the Night. No power in the Universe may vanquish me, For I am that which existed before the Universe, And will remain eternal after it's demise. The Everlasting is who I am, Never is the time I shall release my grasp On that which now dwells within my domain. I am the Dark Lord of the Sith, Lord of the Night. I am the keeper of Knowledge That has remained hidden for eons, None shall comprehend that which I protect, None that is except for those I have chosen. I alone am the Keeper of this most powerful magic, That which binds the Galaxy and the Universe. The Chaos, the Rune weaves into that which may be understood. It is the only true magic in the Universe. I am the Lord of Illusion. I am in all places at all times and in no places at no time. When you think you have found me - You have not. When you believe you understand me - You do not. When you think you have bested me - You have already lost. Behold the might of deception! Lord of Darkness - Alvaraax _______________ Bringing newbies closer to perfection since 1998. |
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Jake Kainite - Student
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Really, what book was it ? If so did it actually say 'this is the Jedi code ?' _______________ Apprenctice of Jedi Master Ascari (deceased) Descended from a line of great Jedi Will argue any point of view from any side
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Plo Koon - Student 
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actually jake,that was a real jedi code,i found it in a StarWars Book
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Jacen Aratan - Student |
But the Jedi Code is not as cool as the Sith Code, here's a highlight:
All the Universe Bows before me. I pledge myself to the Darkness. For I have found True Life, In the Death of the Light. [Can't remember any links to the full Code] |
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Jake Kainite - Student 
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I think yours is more what the jedi do and whats expected of them. Mine is THE ACTUAL JEDI CODE,not something I made up cos it sounded cool _______________ Apprenctice of Jedi Master Ascari (deceased) Descended from a line of great Jedi Will argue any point of view from any side
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Plo Koon - Student 
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Hah lets combine both our jedi codes...
The Jedi Code... Jedi are the guardians of peace in the galaxy. Jedi use their powers to defend and protect,never to attack others, Jedi respect all life,in any form. Jedi serve others than rule over them, for the good of the galaxy. Jedi seek to improve themselves through knowledge and training. There is no emotion; there is peace. There is no ignorance; there is knowledge. There is no passion; there is serenity. There is no death; there is the Force. _______________ Free Tibet! Click this link,and learn Here too |
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MINDofSIN - Student 
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I'm the most talkative/social person I know. I'm also very lazy and have been accused of being a "hermit".
Hmm... _______________ Jedi Academy Holocron http://jaholocron.ryanmh.com/ Why should our government send our soldiers to foreign soil to protect freedom of speech, when our freedom of speech is being taking away everyday by the same government. |
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SidaDyas - Ex-Student |
now if only i can get on the jedi academy server
i promise to follow the code! really! lol
seriously, did the jedi code ever affect the way you act around people? ive become much more silent nowadays. _______________ Jedi wannabe yep that's me |
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Jake Kainite - Student
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Thats not actually the jedi code but still, very nice Yes yes, I'm taking this post seriously so here is the actual Jedi code (my god I need a life)
The Jedi Code There is no emotion; there is peace. There is no ignorance; there is knowledge. There is no passion; there is serenity. There is no death; there is the Force. _______________ Apprenctice of Jedi Master Ascari (deceased) Descended from a line of great Jedi Will argue any point of view from any side
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Plo Koon - Student
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MINDofSIN - Student
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Whoa, that's deep man.
I play games from my parent's basement. _______________ Jedi Academy Holocron http://jaholocron.ryanmh.com/ Why should our government send our soldiers to foreign soil to protect freedom of speech, when our freedom of speech is being taking away everyday by the same government. This comment was edited by MINDofSIN on Mar 16 2003 07:30pm. |
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