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Ian Jandos - Student  |
I suppose there is not a clear cut answer to this. However, I'd like to see what opinions are out there. Obi-Wan and Anakin seemed to be an equal match, perhaps Anakin on flat ground might be better...but considering he lost his cool, perhaps that would happen in a different scenario as well. Dooku, a viable contender, but if Anakin could beat him, then he obviously doesn't rank at the top. Additionally, Palpatine, who diced several Jedi quickly could not dispatch Windu, even with force aiding him. Yoda, who held his own with Palpatine and Dooku did not demonstrate onscreen at least, the ability to land any blows. Whereas Windu was able to win his duel w/Palpatine. Then there are wild cards such as Darth Maul, Qui-Gon, and Luke Skywalker. Maul obviously was very talented, but did not prove he could overpower a youthful Obi-Wan with his saber alone. I wouldn't necessarily give Obi-Wan the advantage, but that brings up enough doubt for me to rank Maul out of contention. Qui-Gon-Jinn, obviously since he died, that kind of takes him down a notch as well. Luke, I would consider to be in the same boat as his father, with the exception that his lack of formal training would probably give him less rank. Sure he bested his father, but that victory came over a simply less capable saberist due to Vader's reliance of robotic limbs. Luke's "win" only came through rage more than say his control. Having said all of that, my vote is for Mace Windu. A solid, polished saberist, who should have been the one that ended the Sith. -Ian _______________ Member #7625 | Since 7.6.04 The Archives This post was edited by Ian Jandos on Jul 22 2005 10:13pm. |
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bono_bob - Student |
Quote: Windu was taught in the secrets of the 7th style and I´m 90 % sure but I might be wrong... Though I don´t think I am  And I think even Windus mentor was taught but then his mentor developed the style I think... Now Yoda´s style ( can´t remember the number) was Yoda´s own stuff I think ... Im less sure about that than the Windu stuff... Anyway Windu is considered to be the strongest fighter in the SW movies time... *Isn´t Yoda the best?* No.. Yoda was not that much into sabering and last time before Dooku was 20 years ago.. And if Yoda wanted to, he could have been the best with 900 years xp but like we all saw he is a pwnzor even if he doens´t train sabering that much And Yoda was the first known jedi to be able to capture a lightning in his hold and toss it back You saw the look on windus face when Yoda threw the lightning back and you also saw Sidious almost panicing when Yoda started pushing thwe lightning back to Sidious... That is power.. That is why Yoda was considered the strongest force user at the time and Sidious did sense Yoda´s power as well and was afraid of that cause... Sidious had 2000 more midichlorians but Sidious knew that Yoda´s age gave him a great advantage...Yoda´s powers were never won not was the emperors.. The fight ended up in a draw and luxor stepped into the ring... actauly yoda did have a style, that im more sure of than mace windu creating the seventh style. Yoda use i forget the number, but it was an aerial based style, if I am correct Sidous was kind of trained in it too. _______________ "Darkness is simply the absence of Light" "Is it not easier to snuff out the light completely than to make no shadow or darknes at all and create pure light?" "Is there a limit to Light?" - Jawa Jedi from a galaxy far far way of the one Lucas describes ( not in that galaxy ) |
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Yuken Zalak - Student 
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Windu was taught in the secrets of the 7th style and I´m 90 % sure but I might be wrong... Though I don´t think I am And I think even Windus mentor was taught but then his mentor developed the style I think... Now Yoda´s style ( can´t remember the number) was Yoda´s own stuff I think ... Im less sure about that than the Windu stuff... Anyway Windu is considered to be the strongest fighter in the SW movies time... *Isn´t Yoda the best?* No.. Yoda was not that much into sabering and last time before Dooku was 20 years ago.. And if Yoda wanted to, he could have been the best with 900 years xp but like we all saw he is a pwnzor even if he doens´t train sabering that much And Yoda was the first known jedi to be able to capture a lightning in his hold and toss it back You saw the look on windus face when Yoda threw the lightning back and you also saw Sidious almost panicing when Yoda started pushing thwe lightning back to Sidious... That is power.. That is why Yoda was considered the strongest force user at the time and Sidious did sense Yoda´s power as well and was afraid of that cause... Sidious had 2000 more midichlorians but Sidious knew that Yoda´s age gave him a great advantage...Yoda´s powers were never won not was the emperors.. The fight ended up in a draw and luxor stepped into the ring... _______________ =Y-Z= Yay Piccolo´s 777th post, [Yay Damien´s 250th post, [OMG LADY´s 800 POSTAH!!
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anakin. dunno why. jus somethin 'bout him. possibly me gettin geared up about the end of epIII, and it's just stuck. _______________ I Sense the Dark side in you... |
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Yuken Zalak - Student 
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You can´t ask who is the best in history... Well how about Mace´s master or his masters master... Well... yoda has modified a nice style for his tiny size but Windu uses the 7th style of sabering which is claimed to be the strongest style ever... Now this question is hard to say.. I don´t know if Mace´s master knew the 7th style better than Windu... Windu is stronger(physically) and younger than the emperor and thats the reason he was able to beat the emperor in swordfighting ( THE 7th style) Use the strong stuff from the dark side of the force like anger and remain wise and clear minded... Be fast and strong and not even the sith can master this style very often... Actually as often as the jedis... Now you might ask : Then why don´t the sith just use the anger and stuff... The technique reguires them but knowing them doesn´t mean you handle the techniques _______________ =Y-Z= Yay Piccolo´s 777th post, [Yay Damien´s 250th post, [OMG LADY´s 800 POSTAH!!
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Yea, I can see him poking his saber into Palpatine's knees, electrocuting him, then gripping him and crushing his intestines, and then finally decapitating the Emperor. That would be sweet.  _______________ "To become a greater man, you must be a lesser one first." |
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SaZ - Student 
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whoa imagine darth yoda pwning everyone with something even more powerful than force lighting  _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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Ecks - Student
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Windu actually was already tapping into the darkside. That's why he pwned so badly. He was just able to control his emotions. So even if he went fully dark, his power wouldn't increase as much as if a pure Jedi, like Obi, went dark. Basically... if any high level Jedi went to the darkside, they would automatically be the strongest. _______________ "To become a greater man, you must be a lesser one first." |
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Nuebus - Student 
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its a shame windu didnt go dark to go carve up yoda or dooku... but windu vs yoda... saber colours clash.. ew.. like purple and green @_@ _______________ Sanity is for the weak -Let the madness consume you... I'ma moron, i'm the master of morons, i even got a club of morons... so how do u beat me at bein a moron?... and no, not by being u. Ex-Padawan of Chaos~ |
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Ecks - Student
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Yeah, I read that too. More proof that Yoda pwns. _______________ "To become a greater man, you must be a lesser one first." |
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Dachande - Student 
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thnx for that clear up...i feel dumb about readin his thing.. but the fact that ONLY 2 jedi ever beat mace windu were yoda and dooku i got from starwars.com...or some other legit site...when i say BEAT i mean in practice sparring in the academy. _______________ I don't wanna be the best, being the best doesn't mean I'm good...I wanna be perfect 'cause we always fall short, so if I aim for perfect I'll be good.... This comment was edited by Dachande on Oct 05 2005 10:27pm. |
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Ecks - Student
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Honestly think. Use logic here. Lucas has EXPLICITLY stated that he will not make more movies. Look at the number of spelling errors on SS's site. And the nail in the coffin. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supershadow _______________ "To become a greater man, you must be a lesser one first." |
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Dachande - Student
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he's been exposed as a fraud?? how?? whne?? so far his spoilers for all the movies were correct...and he gonna do episodes 7-9... _______________ I don't wanna be the best, being the best doesn't mean I'm good...I wanna be perfect 'cause we always fall short, so if I aim for perfect I'll be good.... |
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Ecks - Student
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lol... I wouldn't trust that site... It's made by Supershadow, who has already been exposed as a fraud. However, atm, it is the best we got, unless Lucas gets off his overweight butt and makes a backstory  _______________ "To become a greater man, you must be a lesser one first." |
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Dachande - Student
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i think yoda is th ebest lady's man...i mean think about it...havent u realize that the grlz always liek the SMALL CUTE lookin dude...like th ehunchback of notredame. anywayz, this is a quote from jedipurge.com While the dark side of the Force created many great warriors, the light side of the Force did as well. 2,000 years before The Phantom Menace, the most formidable light saber fighter before Yoda lived, the amazing Yendar Platis. so right now i believe Yoda is #1... and to go even further When Yoda was 177, the Jedi Holocron kept by Shintor Beerus was rediscovered, prophesying the One who would bring Balance to the Force. Yoda was a more formidable Jedi than Evins Croslod and even Aenon Jurtis, the most formidable Jedi before his time. Many considered Yoda to be the fulfillment of the prophecy, but upon examining the Holocron, Yoda could not be the One, for the One would be born of a virgin mother. Yoda was trained by Bontu Sitmus, who in turn had been trained by Tracktius Mutheon. _______________ I don't wanna be the best, being the best doesn't mean I'm good...I wanna be perfect 'cause we always fall short, so if I aim for perfect I'll be good.... This comment was edited by Dachande on Oct 04 2005 04:45pm. |
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Ecks - Student
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He never said that... But anyway, you're right. Yoda pwns any Sith. _______________ "To become a greater man, you must be a lesser one first." |
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St3@1th - Student 
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All know it is yoda. When anakin was speaking to master obi-wan, Say's that yoda is the best saberest out of all the jedi's. Yoda Rocks. _______________ www.destructiveforce.co.uk |
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Dachande - Student 
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sorry treez didnt mean to coem off like the way you seem to say I came off. and as for spelling I only care for it if im doing an english paper. and i NEVER READ your post...I was simply stating that Dooku and Yoda Beat Mace Windu in a light saber duel, according to the expanded universe. and next time...spell my name right cuz that gets disrespectful.and if you wanna vent...take it out with a lightsaber by challlenging soemoen on JKA. and the orginal trilogy's sword figthing was better because it was based on slow pace fencing. the sword master used in the prequels..he went for all out looks. if any of you wanan see REALISTIC sword figthing movie rent these movies HIGHLANDER:END GAME (when the highlander from movies and highlander from series vs eachother to 2nd to last sword fight...it is very realistic fight BUT it still LOOKS good because they add VERY few highflying/flashy stuff and didnt Over do it like SW:prequels did.) (other sword figths werent that real.) MUSKETEER (yes SOME of the fights were realistic, and most of the stuff Ive seen done on Ninjitsu black belt tests...) Count of Montecristo (check spelling of that one.) (one of the MOST realistic fights I have ever seen..NO flashy stuff wat so ever..EVER FIGHT is REALISTIC) THE HUNTED (yes I know it knife fighting but w/e..this was TOO REALISTIC to an extent it got boring..the art was filipino based..it is called KALI..) the above are my OPINIONS... _______________ I don't wanna be the best, being the best doesn't mean I'm good...I wanna be perfect 'cause we always fall short, so if I aim for perfect I'll be good.... This comment was edited by Dachande on Oct 03 2005 03:50am. |
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Nuebus - Student
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Quote: *pull out a shotgun* NO SPELL CHECK COMPLAINING FOR YOU! *converts shotgun into axe and readies to chop* ( I am an antiast, of peopel against poor spelling, in other words.. I think people make to big of a deal of them :p ) you are soooo gonna get tarped _______________ Sanity is for the weak -Let the madness consume you... I'ma moron, i'm the master of morons, i even got a club of morons... so how do u beat me at bein a moron?... and no, not by being u. Ex-Padawan of Chaos~ |
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Ecks - Student
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Quote: Yes, i'm annoyed, yes i'm half asleep, yes I just threw a tantrum which resulted in breaking my printer, so yeah thats why I need someone to vent my anger on and Dashade seemed like the prime target. /me walks off mumbling about stupid typists... EDIT: and yeah that Obi vs Vader scene on EPI was the most realistic, but what would you expect for a pair of 50 yr old men? lmao... you just made my day man... props to ya.  _______________ "To become a greater man, you must be a lesser one first." |
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bono_bob - Student |
Quote: check your post for spelling, I doubt my cousin could spell that bad. *pull out a shotgun* NO SPELL CHECK COMPLAINING FOR YOU! *converts shotgun into axe and readies to chop* ( I am an antiast, of peopel against poor spelling, in other words.. I think people make to big of a deal of them :p ) _______________ "Darkness is simply the absence of Light" "Is it not easier to snuff out the light completely than to make no shadow or darknes at all and create pure light?" "Is there a limit to Light?" - Jawa Jedi from a galaxy far far way of the one Lucas describes ( not in that galaxy ) |
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Nuebus - Student 
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Ecks' big fat post basically had all the information needed. And Dachande the next time you want to openly scratch my opinion, A. check your post for spelling, I doubt my cousin could spell that bad. B. Thats your opinion, the history my claim that Dooku could beat Windu, but you'd never know would you? and to think of it Anakin could beat Dooku, so why couldn't Mace? Everyone here also says that Darth Sidious is also one of teh best and probably just below Yoda's skill so why didn't you list him? C. When you use CAPS for emphasis make sure your spelling is correct. and last but not least; D. If you have another opinion, do it at least politely, the way you had it typed out seemed like my opinion's crap and yours was all important, the world doesn't revolve around you so don't act it. Yes, i'm annoyed, yes i'm half asleep, yes I just threw a tantrum which resulted in breaking my printer, so yeah thats why I need someone to vent my anger on and Dashade seemed like the prime target. /me walks off mumbling about stupid typists... EDIT: and yeah that Obi vs Vader scene on EPI was the most realistic, but what would you expect for a pair of 50 yr old men? _______________ Sanity is for the weak -Let the madness consume you... I'ma moron, i'm the master of morons, i even got a club of morons... so how do u beat me at bein a moron?... and no, not by being u. Ex-Padawan of Chaos~ This comment was edited by Nuebus on Oct 02 2005 12:55am. |
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SaZ - Student
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maybe... maybe not i guess we will never know _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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Ecks - Student
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What is the MOST sad thing ever, however, is that it was the most realistic duel _______________ "To become a greater man, you must be a lesser one first." |
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SaZ - Student
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Quote: yeah.. lol if we wanna rate what duel was the most realistic, it would have to be what most star wars fans thought of the most retarded duel. The on in episode with darth vader vs obiwan.. where they stand there waiting for oppoment to make a mistake, making the occasional swing and parry, then Obiwan letting him self get defeated. Well at least I think that was a very strong repesentaion of two master swordsmen who are like dueling each other, compared to say some of the other duels. imo that duel sucked. it was the most uninteresting duel EVER. _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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