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Eica - Student  |
Clikeh Just heard about this, didn't see a thread about it. Even in times like this the British police are mantaining their traditional incompetency. _______________ Former padawan of RoseRed |
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Eica - Student 
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Man this was just another great British cover-up  _______________ Former padawan of RoseRed |
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Jacen Aratan - Student |
Well, I just saw it in our own, national news this morning.. but I haven't heard of it before today, and when you give me a source I've never heard of before, I'm inclined to being very wary of it... this new situation, I haven't yet taken a stance to, except that "racism" is an exaggeration. |
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JavaGuy - Student 
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Quote: I read it, and I ignored it. If you give me a source I've heard about before 5 minutes ago, I'll consider trusting it when it claims to have "obtained secret documents". It's all over Reuters, MSNBC and all the major news sources. I've been burned by the media before, of course, but between the "official" story that was put out initially and the ITV version of events, I'm inclined to think the later is closer to fact. The media rushed to put out the official police version of the story without the benefit of being able to check the facts, and they took no risks by doing so. If shown to be wrong, any newsman can say, "These were the facts we were given. We reported in good conscience." The ITV version of events differs firstly in that they have had time to do fact-checking and secondly in that they are really taking a risk. If their story turns out to be wrong, they really stepped in it, so I rather suspect that they checked the authenticity of their sources very, very carefully. ITV is a major network and doesn't want the kind of public humiliation CBS has recently subjected itself to with similar fiascos. _______________ My signature is only one line. You're welcome. |
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Mindrith Pride - Student 
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Quote: ^ The world we live in aye... _______________ [proud owner of talions 200th, 700th,1111th coment AND 1400th , DJK's 3001th coment! , saz's 400th coment! liso's 800th coment! Kitmitsu Aratan's 1200th comment! Cau's 100th comeent, Alexander's (aka CC) 210th, 888th and 2200th comments! Moriarti's 800th comment , Piccolo's 2000th comment! lirael's 505th comment , Quom Farlance's 120th comment, Alexander's 1800th comment , Eica's 1400th comment , Wicek's 3200th comment lady C's 999th comment, Echuu's 1100th comment, Takaru's 325th and 400th comment, Redeye's 200th comment picc's 3600th comment, Ostith's 50th comment, Elmo's 555th comment] |
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Jacen Aratan - Student |
Quote: Didn't you read the link I just posted? I don't know if racism had anything at all to do with it, but this is Bad Stuff any way you look at it. I read it, and I ignored it. If you give me a source I've heard about before 5 minutes ago, I'll consider trusting it when it claims to have "obtained secret documents". |
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Raziel Anjelis - Student 
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sorry i didn't mean racism in that context, i meant...oh lol i pretty much shot myself in the foot. Sorry about that. _______________ Proud owner of El Vee For's 200th Comment, and Wicek's 2600th comment  DaMi3N's 400th, Trad Redav's 666th.
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Monteeeeeee - Nugget 
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Seems like Miscommunication and a general lapse in concentration, but 1 incident in such times shouldnt pull the whole police down, yes it was a bad mistake and now them police officer's have to live with it for the rest of their lives. Even tho they 'F**ked up' lets not tarnish the job they are doing to protect our country, 1 mistake shouldnt drag down the excellent job they are doing _______________ If you add me to MSN, tell me who you are 
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Vasper Ba'xian - Student 
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^ The world we live in _______________ Brother to: Tamal, Kavar, J.D.,Jermia, Devlin, Ulic, Xiabara, Seij,Tarron Mib,>>>ROCK ON  .My Spacescapes art page.My Everything Else art page. MY FAV. Jedi Are: Qui-Gon Jinn, Corran Horn, and Anakin Solo. Unofficial Master to Tamal. and Kavar. Founder of the Wuji Hundun Jian saber style. Proud owner of Tamal's 200th comment!//Proud owner of Refl3x's 300th comment!>>>Proud owner of Tyrant's 800th comment>>>Proud owner of Lucky's 170th comment>>>Proud owner of BDKawika's 444th comment>>>To except Existance is to except Reality.
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JavaGuy - Student
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Didn't you read the link I just posted? I don't know if racism had anything at all to do with it, but this is Bad Stuff any way you look at it. _______________ My signature is only one line. You're welcome. |
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Jacen Aratan - Student |
How's it racism in any way or shape? If a white guy shoots a black guy (or, for that matter, the other way around) is it the epitome of racial hatred we're witnessing? If he hadn't run away, been a suspect, and do all this right after the bombings, he might be alive today. And his Visa was expired. |
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Raziel Anjelis - Student 
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Sounds like the police got a little too trigger happy eh? THIS ladies and gentlemen is excessive force. I mean they have the suspect pinned, why shoot him? This seems to be bordering on racism, but i was never there, so I don't mean to judge. _______________ Proud owner of El Vee For's 200th Comment, and Wicek's 2600th comment DaMi3N's 400th, Trad Redav's 666th.
This comment was edited by Raziel Anjelis on Aug 17 2005 11:10pm. |
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CuZzA - Student 
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Jesus... _______________ - Even if Carlsberg made "w*nkers", Christiano Ronaldo would still be the biggest "w*nker" in the world |
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JavaGuy - Student
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Uh oh! Looks like the facts are not what we were led to believe. _______________ My signature is only one line. You're welcome. |
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Eica - Student
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I think games like SOF are the worst example, you can just shoot guns out of peoples hands at liesure on that game, despite it's difficulty settings _______________ Former padawan of RoseRed |
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Buzz - Student 
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There's a comedian named Mike Armstrong who has a similar experience that he talks about. He's a former cop, just a regular one no sniper. They were going into a house where there was some crook I can't remember if he was chased there or robbing the place but he had a gun. I complete 1 in a million shot, armstrong ends up shooting off the index finger of the guy. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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JavaGuy - Student 
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Yeah, I think that's where I saw it. If memory serves it happened in Columbus, Ohio. _______________ My signature is only one line. You're welcome. |
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Jacen Aratan - Student |
It was on "World's Wildest Police Videos". |
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Senor Hat - Student 
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JavaGuy where can i find the story on that? i tried serching for it but i couldn't find it _______________ I have beaten The Internet. The end guy was hard. |
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Moriarti - Student 
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well what i heard was that a witness saw him running from the armed police and ran onto the train that they where on and then was caught by the police and then pushed to the floor before being shot _______________ Vampire boxing nord |
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JamesF1 - Student 
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Quote: Just wanted to add one thing here. 8 shots in the head is not necessarily exaggerated. It all depends on the number of officers in place. If one cop shot 8 times it would raise a few eyebrows, but if there were more cops there, I don't think they would stop for a round of rock-paper-scissors to decide who gets to shoot. They all shoot without too much hesitation. In that moment, it was either that guy or a train full of people. Stuff like this happens quite often in Israel. An army unit clears a house in order to arrest a couple known terrorists. During the operation, a suspicious-looking man comes running out the neighboring house wearing a fat jacket. It's summer. Bang bang bang. He's dead. Turns out he was just scared and trying to run across the street. What would you do if you were a soldier in a similar situation, not even sure if you would live to tell the story? It's usually over things like this that the media throws a fit of "Oh my god! Look what those butchers are doing! Killing innocent Palestinians!" So before you judge the London police... No, don't judge. And now, the moral of the story: Don't wear padded jackets in freaking summer. Excellent post - pure excellence. _______________ Website |
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Scythus Aratan - Student 
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Following on from Javaguy's post, people saying that they could just shoot him in the arm or elsewhere to stop him triggering a bomb he may or may not have are wrong. Let's list locations: Arm: Can still set off a bomb with the other. Leg: Not gonna do much to stop him reaching over really. Torso: Yeah, great idea, shoot him in the torso where this bomb is supposedly hidden. Head: One death > 50. _______________ Padawan to the great Jacen Aratan! <Setementor> Scythus is a genius! Claimer of the 5000th post in the Count thread [Solitude] scy rocks [Casual] good point scythus, you're really smart |
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Just wanted to add one thing here. 8 shots in the head is not necessarily exaggerated. It all depends on the number of officers in place. If one cop shot 8 times it would raise a few eyebrows, but if there were more cops there, I don't think they would stop for a round of rock-paper-scissors to decide who gets to shoot. They all shoot without too much hesitation. In that moment, it was either that guy or a train full of people. Stuff like this happens quite often in Israel. An army unit clears a house in order to arrest a couple known terrorists. During the operation, a suspicious-looking man comes running out the neighboring house wearing a fat jacket. It's summer. Bang bang bang. He's dead. Turns out he was just scared and trying to run across the street. What would you do if you were a soldier in a similar situation, not even sure if you would live to tell the story? It's usually over things like this that the media throws a fit of "Oh my god! Look what those butchers are doing! Killing innocent Palestinians!" So before you judge the London police... No, don't judge. And now, the moral of the story: Don't wear padded jackets in freaking summer. _______________ make install -not war This comment was edited by Bubu on Jul 27 2005 11:26pm. |
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Jacen Aratan - Student |
That shot was pretty wicked though, Java. |
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Eica - Student
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I meant they over-reacted by shooting him in the head 8 times ^^ _______________ Former padawan of RoseRed |
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