| The Zero And Belouve Family. Are the Related? | |
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Zero Akaine - Student  |
Well From what i have heard from my padawans is that all of the Belouve Padawans Including the ones that do not have the last name Belouve are cusens with my padawans. Acording to them Me and Ulic are bruthers that dont know it... I would like the Belouves and the Zeros to please coment on this. I am Shur Ulic and I are bouth wanting to understand this a bit more from thoush that created it.. _______________ Padawan of Ryo Akaine Master to Aphex,Skyler,Doppelganger, and GremReaper. |
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Sared - Retired 
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Back! Woah! Where did this come from? o_O interesting... Zero a Grand Uncle?  _______________ I'm crazy, not stupid. |
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Doppelgänger - Student 
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I too am intrigued! _______________ "Look not back in anger, nor forward in fear But around you in awareness." Ross Hersey |
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Zero Akaine - Student 
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I await to hear what you say ulic. _______________ Padawan of Ryo Akaine Master to Aphex,Skyler,Doppelganger, and GremReaper. |
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Ulic Belouve - Student 
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I'll be putting out an e-mail to the Belouves, once I get back, on this matter. I had wanted to address something like this before, but I'll note all the suggestions, and put something out once I get back. I might also work on the Belouve Crest in the next day, and have it ready to go.
But overall, we can accept some bond between Belouves and Zero/Enna. I have my IRC working on my home computer, so I will hop on there. I may also post some home pics as well. _______________ Jedi do not fight for peace. That's only a slogan, and is as misleading as slogans always are. Jedi fight for civilization, because only civilization creates peace. |
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Fizz of Belouve - Student 
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good idea, Master Bubu.
or even "Friends of the Family" sounds more official _______________ One of the Belouve boys, founder of the mighty FiZZsters Midbie council #20 - Fizz - #1933 - Jan '03 - Aug '04 "Renfield, you idiot!" |
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Bubu - Hubbub 
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Why not just call the Ennas our official "family friends"? that would spare us the confusion with the whole "brother" business. but i don't know, just a thought.
and indeed a nice speech dop! keep it up.  _______________ make install -not war |
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Fizz of Belouve - Student
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truly nice spoken, Doppelgänger.
Looking forward to this development. A very nice change indeed. _______________ One of the Belouve boys, founder of the mighty FiZZsters Midbie council #20 - Fizz - #1933 - Jan '03 - Aug '04 "Renfield, you idiot!" |
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Doppelgänger - Student
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 I'm blushing! _______________ "Look not back in anger, nor forward in fear But around you in awareness." Ross Hersey |
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Ruuk Haviser - Retired 
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IMHO, there are too many people in JA with the same beliefs to allow JA to fall. If it happened to fall apart from it's present state (for whatever reason), I believe someone else/others will pick up the torch and keep the dream alive... as long as they were given the permission to do so.
dop...one heck of a speech there, dude. Just want everyone to know that dop was the one who welcomed me to JA upon my first arrival on the KS server. He set the example for me, and is indeed worthy of his family name. Thanks again, buddy. -rh _______________ Back from the dead... |
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FaDed - Student 
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well said dopp. truly inspiring. |
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Damon C. Belouve - Student 
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Nice post Dopp!
Wow! I love you too, man! D.C.
Long live the Belouves, Zero's House, and the JA! _______________ One of the original Belouves. Padawan to the Mighty Tido and brother to Dane and Delvin! Proud Member of the Killer D's AKA the 3 D's of Tidoness. |
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Doppelgänger - Student
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Yes friendship! Despite the cold harsh reality we live in every day we know in our hearts that there is some kind of "force" in this universe. A clockwork that keeps things running. Even good can come from evil, but not by evil hands. It is in everyone's heart to fall to the dark side of this clockwork. Even if only for a handful of times in our lives. It doesn't make everyone evil though and it does take time for wounds to heal. Anger, envy, greed, hatred, lust all these emotions will lead us to the dark side. Often times we can not help ourselves but to feel them. So be mindful of your feelings and other peoples feelings. Do not allow them to consume you or you will fall quickly.
This force has brought us all together. It has given us a special bound for a special reason and I would do anything to protect that bound. Damon knows that if I do something that he doesn't like and he tells me, I will never do it again. It is this kind of devotion that keeps this academy alive. With out it this academy would fall. Recently there have been warnings that this academy would fall. I am here to say that I will do my part in being as kind and patient with everyone no matter how bad they piss me off. I am here to have fun and be apart of a great place that truly has it going on! As long as friends and friends of friends stick together we will be strong and the "force" will be with us! Your Friend, The Doppelganger _______________ "Look not back in anger, nor forward in fear But around you in awareness." Ross Hersey |
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GremReaper - Student 
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It symbolizes close friendships and it a fun thing that was created. _______________ Xfire--kdgremreaper |
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FaDed - Student
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geez...this family business is some serious bullhonkey. |
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Damon C. Belouve - Student
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Master, I am not suggesting that Zero become a Belouve.
I'm not even sure if Zero would want to be a Belouve by name. He is an Enna. But what I am suggesting is that you guys be adopted brothers or maybe step brothers. So that the families are related but not the same. Two separate families but a strong connection to be known by all. Sorry, Ulic, if you thought I was making Belouves on you. Only you and Bubu have that authority. You are the head of the house and if you choose to align yourself with Zero Enna's house, that is your final decision. And Zero's as well. Hope look forward discussing this more with you upon your return. Later, D.C. _______________ One of the original Belouves. Padawan to the Mighty Tido and brother to Dane and Delvin! Proud Member of the Killer D's AKA the 3 D's of Tidoness. |
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Ulic Belouve - Student
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Hmm...I'm on vacation still, but this is worth the 10 minutes to access on a 56k.
As for the family rlations thing, I'm cool with most of it. I'm not sure if I make others my "brothers", outside of the family. Zero and I have had our disputes in the past, which might make us like brothers. Like what was said, we reserve "brother" for the family members. I'm not sure if I'd just take someone as a bro. Those that are my "brothers" have been given careful consideration, and to just "make" someone a brother without such considerration, simply because of some distant bond through relation, would ruin the value of such a title. My brothers are Damon, Bubu, Ioshee. For the most part. But I was wise and thought ahead to t time like this, when there is no way to deny a person being closely related to the Belouves, or being one. So, I will grant the Heart of Ramza (a Belouve award) to Zero, and grant him the status of honorary brother. Think of him as adopted or something. Maybe, in time, if we patch things up and sit down to chat more, he can become official. But I think it will solve a lot more to make him an unofficial brother, that way, he's not really a Belouve, and none of the others are Belouves, and that will allow the Zero family to function without any interference of the Belouves. If Zero WERE a brother, he would thus be a Belouve, and would be "assimilated" into the Belouve Family, and would have to uphold all that we stand for. Being a Belouve is not about just relating into it. We stand for the right things, and won't compromise them for anything. We keep our honor, honesty, patience and the like, above all else, even if it means being less able at the game. A Belouve is a person not by blood, but by who they are in attitude. If Zero has the attitude of a Belouve, he might be a Belouve. But I still think that would complicate things. Just leave him as an honorary/adopted/whatever brother, and we'll all be happy. Hope that satifies as many as needed. I'm trying to keep both families as a special thing. Well, I'll be back Sunday. Keep things in order until then, no making more Belouves when I'm gone, OK? _______________ Jedi do not fight for peace. That's only a slogan, and is as misleading as slogans always are. Jedi fight for civilization, because only civilization creates peace. |
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FaDed - Student 
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no kidding dopp. hux has really been messing with our configurations. damn the man and his brilliance. you don't want to learn it because it's so hard, but you have to because hux taught it to you! |
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FaDed - Student
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wow...that was pretty intense. now i feel all lonely because my master is gone until sunday. i want a brother. or a cousin... |
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Doppelgänger - Student 
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Well aside from being dizzy from what Hux has done to me. Reading all of that nearly made me give up my cookies. I'm starting to feel better though because I kind of understood it to begin with. It was just laid down more simple in my brain. Family picknicks are gonna be packed! I have but two request though...Skyler is gonna have to ware some pants and no one drinks from Hux's old-school stash! _______________ "Look not back in anger, nor forward in fear But around you in awareness." Ross Hersey |
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Damon C. Belouve - Student 
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Check out my update to my Status page...
www.myadoption.ca/jk2/mystatus.html Hehe! Later, D.C. _______________ One of the original Belouves. Padawan to the Mighty Tido and brother to Dane and Delvin! Proud Member of the Killer D's AKA the 3 D's of Tidoness. |
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Zero Akaine - Student
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I rely like the idea... but you for got some one...skyler he was my frist padawan. well like the idea and await to hear what Ulic has to say _______________ Padawan of Ryo Akaine Master to Aphex,Skyler,Doppelganger, and GremReaper. |
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Fizz of Belouve - Student 
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Grand Uncle Zero, Grand Master Ulic, these sound great to me.
hope I dont mix them up with Grandmaster Flash
well, with these two folk's blessings, I'd like to welcome my 2nd cousins or nephews or whatever... hehe lets hav ephun together, as the biggest family within the JA
weee _______________ One of the Belouve boys, founder of the mighty FiZZsters Midbie council #20 - Fizz - #1933 - Jan '03 - Aug '04 "Renfield, you idiot!" |
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Damon C. Belouve - Student
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Well, I'm glad I was missed.
btw, I'm back now. hehe! The trip was great and a lot was accomplished. How did this happen? How did the Belouves and Zeros become related? Well, it all started with myself, Aphex, Grem, and Dopp. I cannot put a date to it, but it was shortly after I became Belouve and they became Zeros. We based our relationship on the fact that we would often find ourselves training together and that we liked spending time together. The brother relationship was reserved for fellow paddys, in our minds, so we chose cousins. Which by default, made Zero into my Uncle, Ulic into their Uncle, and Zero and Ulic borthers. Since Zero actually administered my first trial see: http://academy.jediknightii.net/forums_detail_page.php?f_id=539 I thought having him as an Uncle would be cool and acceptable to both families. Even though Zero was (and still may be a little puzzled about the relationship). This relationship was primarily made to reflect the closeness between myself, Aphex, Grem and Dopp. However, we hope that the rest of the family will acknowlege this connection. It is just like my real-life family... My first cousins and I have different people we consider family (2nd cousins in particular). I have 2nd cousins that are close to me, that my 1st cousins are related to in the exact same way through blood, but have never acknowleged just because of geographic distance. However, if the time came that I introduced my 2nd cousins to my 1st cousins, I would hope that they would then consider themselves family. Now where does this stop? Can everyone in the JA be related to Zero and Ulic Belouve? Well, it was one of those things that the shear volume of relation (being that I was close to Aphex, Grem and Dopp...all already related to each other) that we chose to formalize this family connection. However, I know that other family members, like Fizz, ioshee and Bubu like these guys too and that Ulic has invited Zero paddys to train with us on occasion. So, perhaps this relationship can receive the blessing of Zero and Ulic Belouve. That would made Aphex, Grem and Dopp... Nephews of Ulic Belouve 1st cousins of Damon, Ioshee, and Bubu 2nd cousins of Fizz, Sared, and Dani And Zero would be.... Brother of Ulic Belouve Uncle of Damon, Ioshee, and Bubu Grand Uncle of Fizz, Sacred, and Dani That would make Skyler... Nephew of Ulic Belouve 1st cousins of Damon, Ioshee, and Bubu 2nd cousins of Fizz, Sared and Dani. (same relationship as Aphex, Grem and Dopp) Well, I think that sums it up. How do the Zeros and Belouves feel about this? Later, D.C.
edited to include Skyler _______________ One of the original Belouves. Padawan to the Mighty Tido and brother to Dane and Delvin! Proud Member of the Killer D's AKA the 3 D's of Tidoness. This comment was edited by Damon C. Belouve on Mar 19 2003 10:54am. |
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Fizz of Belouve - Student
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well, on the 11th he said he'd be back in a week... that should be by now.
but lets give him some time to chill out, so no need to stress that issue
and why the hell am I sick ? _______________ One of the Belouve boys, founder of the mighty FiZZsters Midbie council #20 - Fizz - #1933 - Jan '03 - Aug '04 "Renfield, you idiot!" |
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GremReaper - Student
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I think tomorrow. _______________ Xfire--kdgremreaper |
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