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Mosh - Bush - Eminem ( his word )
Oct 05 2005 01:11pm

Yuken Zalak
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Yuken Zalak
Here is a few lines I picked from Eminem´s lyrics from the song Mosh.... Read them.. At least one american found a way how to open eyes of some people... And post similar types of high puplic protests :)


Stomp, push, shove, mush, Fuck Bush, until they bring our troops home (c'mon)

Imagine it pouring, it's raining down on us
Mosh pits outside the oval office
Someone's tryina tell us something,
Maybe this is god just sayin' we're responsible
For this monster, this coward,
That we have empowered
This is Bin Laden, look at his head noddin'
How could we allow something like this without pumping our fists
Now this is our final hour
Let me be the voice in your strength and your choice
Let me simplify the rhyme just to amplify the noise
Try to amplify the times it, and multiply by six...
Teen million people, Are equal at this high pitch
Maybe we can reach alqueda through my speech
Let the president answer a higher anarchy
Strap him with an Ak-47, let him go, fight his own war
Let him impress daddy that way
No more blood for oil, we got our own battles to fight on our own soil
No more psychological warfare, to trick us to thinking that we ain't loyal
If we don't serve our own country, we're patronizing a hero
Look in his eyes its all lies
The stars and stripes, they've been swiped, washed out and wiped
And replaced with his own face, Mosh now or die
If I get sniped tonight you know why,
Cause I told you to fight.

And as we proceed,
To Mosh through this desert storm,
In these closing statements, if they should argue
Let us beg to differ
As we set aside our differences
And assemble our own army
To disarm this Weapon of Mass Destruction
That we call our President, for the present
And Mosh for the future of our next generation
To speak and be heard
Mr. President, Mr. Senator
Do you guy's hear us...hear us...
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Oct 05 2005 07:03pm

Yuken Zalak
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Well bush could put a bit more money into that lesswastetechinvestigation instead of using HUGE mounts of money in south east...in WARFARES...Now I don´t have anything against America, actually the opposite, I just wish that Bush would leave the table of the white house...

And this topic is going on pretty well.. Nice replies... Many minds... :) Life would be boring if everyone thought the same... Now my opinion is that Bush is a bad leader of a big and powerful country but thats just my opinion.. :)

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This comment was edited by Yuken Zalak on Oct 05 2005 07:05pm.

Oct 05 2005 06:26pm

Raziel Anjelis
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Wasn't this posted before? A similar thread, I believe it was about 'Joining the army'? Looks liek this thread is going exactly the same way. :(:(
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This comment was edited by Raziel Anjelis on Oct 05 2005 06:34pm.

Oct 05 2005 06:19pm

Tido
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 Tido

Quote:
No I don't have kyoto wrong. You don't have a clue on it. Mars is getting warmer. Why is mars getting warmer? Are the martians driving too many SUV's or something? Because that seems to be your reason for saying the earth is getting warmer. You get the point. You know what Bush wants to do? Develop technologies that are more efficient that produce less waste. He doesn't want to cripple the American economy just so you can feel good about yourself. Kyoto also doesn't limit developing countries which are producing a lot more waste for every useable product they make. The only reason Russia signed it is because they are nowhere close to producing the levels kyoto says they can. Kyoto is garbage and not worth the paper its printed on.


Bingo. Also while we're discussing air pollution, here is a map of NO2 levels in Europe. Yes, that is your country in the red. However, neither Europe nor the USA comes close in total output to China or Africa.

This comment was edited by Tido on Oct 05 2005 06:19pm.

Oct 05 2005 06:12pm

Buzz
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 Buzz

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Buzz you got the Kyoto really wrong... Ok Mars is getting warmer...Who cares we don´t live in mars... You might think it´s cool to have warmer summers but hey... Gets warm enough and norhpole goes melting and so does south... So does many other places on earth... And what does that mean.. Sealevels rise (ALOT) Thats when many countries and capitals and big cities go underwater... And if we can prevent that a bit longer with some changes in things, its worth it... It would also ease the huge problem in the US...The baddest air...

And Arnold.. I don´t think Arnold is a bad converner at all... And I don´t judge him stupid for his muscles...


No I don't have kyoto wrong. You don't have a clue on it. Mars is getting warmer. Why is mars getting warmer? Are the martians driving too many SUV's or something? Because that seems to be your reason for saying the earth is getting warmer. You get the point. You know what Bush wants to do? Develop technologies that are more efficient that produce less waste. He doesn't want to cripple the American economy just so you can feel good about yourself. Kyoto also doesn't limit developing countries which are producing a lot more waste for every useable product they make. The only reason Russia signed it is because they are nowhere close to producing the levels kyoto says they can. Kyoto is garbage and not worth the paper its printed on.
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Oct 05 2005 06:11pm

Yuken Zalak
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 Yuken Zalak

The world warming goes up and down but the fact up there things are going worse can be proved and that can cause bad damage in the long run... And it can be proved that USA is a HUGE factor in many enviromental issues including this... It can be proved what the bad things need to happen and with that in mind can be told what USA does and those thing match.. Of course every country does it.. Other just do something about it...
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Oct 05 2005 06:09pm

AvaloN
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 AvaloN

There is indeed a lot of contradicting information on global-warming, cant say I've read enough about both sides to form a solid opnion.

However..

Quote:
Gets warm enough and norhpole goes melting and so does south... So does many other places on earth... And what does that mean.. Sealevels rise (ALOT) Thats when many countries and capitals and big cities go underwater


This would be really bad for us Ducthies, we alrdy live meters below sea-level :cool:

Oct 05 2005 06:09pm

Tido
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 Tido

Quote:
these are great meaningful lyrics


Nope.

Oct 05 2005 06:05pm

 
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Quote:
Buzz you got the Kyoto really wrong... Ok Mars is getting warmer...Who cares we don´t live in mars... You might think it´s cool to have warmer summers but hey... Gets warm enough and norhpole goes melting and so does south... So does many other places on earth... And what does that mean.. Sealevels rise (ALOT) Thats when many countries and capitals and big cities go underwater... And if we can prevent that with some changes in things, its worth it... It would also ease the huge problem in the US...The baddest air...


Yuken, what Buzz is saying is that we cannot prevent that from happening. In actual fact, he got it really right. n_n

Oct 05 2005 06:03pm

Yuken Zalak
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 Yuken Zalak

Buzz you got the Kyoto really wrong... Ok Mars is getting warmer...Who cares we don´t live in mars... You might think it´s cool to have warmer summers but hey... Gets warm enough and norhpole goes melting and so does south... So does many other places on earth... And what does that mean.. Sealevels rise (ALOT) Thats when many countries and capitals and big cities go underwater... And if we can prevent that with some changes in things, its worth it... It would also ease the huge problem in the US...The baddest air...

And Arnold.. I don´t think Arnold is a bad converner at all... And I don´t judge him stupid for his muscles...


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This comment was edited by Yuken Zalak on Oct 05 2005 07:02pm.

Oct 05 2005 06:02pm

Eica
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 Eica

I like this song, not usually a fan of rap, but these are great meaningful lyrics in my opinion. That's all really.

Eica:alliance:
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Oct 05 2005 06:01pm

Buzz
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 Buzz

Oh there's evidence of the earth warming, just no proof that we are actually contributing in any major way to it. And Kyoto certainly won't contribute in any major way to slowing it down.
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Oct 05 2005 05:58pm

Fenris
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 Fenris

Quote:
Stomp, push, shove, mush, Fuck Bush, until they bring our troops home (c'mon)


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Oct 05 2005 05:57pm

Tido
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 Tido

Yeah the whole global warming issue thing has no real footing. Changes in average temperatures have been the story of Earth's life, there is nothing new about that. It's going to happen regardless of what we're doing. Also there is just as much information showing the Earth may actually be about to enter a cooling phase as a warming one. Also to be considered is the output of the sun is hardly a consistant thing and goes through phases (of 10s, 100s, 1000s, and 1,000,000s of years). But Eminem probably wouldn't have a clue of what you're talking about if you mentioned this to him.

Oct 05 2005 05:50pm

AvaloN
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 AvaloN

Quote:
And as for what the US gets from Iraq. The removal of a despotic tyrant, or do you think that's not good for everyone? Also the hope is a stable democratic ally in the middle east. Again tell me what's bad about that?


All true, that is good.

Is it worth the price tho? And if your reason is the removal of a tyrant and getting more allies, where is this gonna stop? Half of the world consists of countries ruled with an iron fist(9 out of 10 times a bloody one aswell).

And please, try to keep this discussion civilized. Im not looking for flaming posts.

Oct 05 2005 05:41pm

AvaloN
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 AvaloN

Quote:
Yeah, Tido and Buzz hit the nail on the head there.

You guys just have to remember that British and American citizens have, for the most part, very comfortable lifestyles. That doesn't come for free. Instead of criticizing the perhaps questionable actions of your leaders, maybe you should focus on the positive and thank them for all the great things they've done that have secured a better future for YOU. :)


Alright, point taken.

But im getting a bit tired of hearing: "OMG, my life is peaceful and safe right now, and all thanks to Bush and Blair!". It was safe and peaceful before them aswell. The war in Iraq sure as hell isnt the reason my country got any safer, more like the other way around. Maybe Americans and the British feel different, but thats from a Dutch point of view.

Then again, altho im no Bush fan-boy, he does have the balls to make tough decisions.

Oct 05 2005 05:41pm

Buzz
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 Buzz

You are an ignorant fool. Iraq had been violating every UN resolution passed against it for the past 12 years. An attempted assasination on a former president. His connections to terrorism. Go look up Salman Pak. Americans also aren't the ones blowing up car bombs. That would be the other side. And yeah we might not have found any weapons, but we found enough locations all geared up and ready to go as soon as possible to make them. Dual-use materials were also the norm, not the exception.

And the Greenhouse effect? You are not bright. Let's see, the earth is getting warmer. Guess what, so is MARS. Is Bush to blame for that too? Kyoto is a joke that will do nothing other than cripple and hinder economies. It arbitrarily chooses 1998 as the optimum year for how the earth should be, which is completely pointless. UV radiation and the greenhouse effect aren't connected either.

And as for what the US gets from Iraq. The removal of a despotic tyrant, or do you think that's not good for everyone? Also the hope is a stable democratic ally in the middle east. Again tell me what's bad about that?

You don't know enough about any of this to provide information.
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Oct 05 2005 05:32pm

Rinzler
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 Rinzler

agreeing with teh JJ
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Oct 05 2005 05:30pm

 
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Yeah, Tido and Buzz hit the nail on the head there.

You guys just have to remember that British and American citizens have, for the most part, very comfortable lifestyles. That doesn't come for free. Instead of criticizing the perhaps questionable actions of your leaders, maybe you should focus on the positive and thank them for all the great things they've done that have secured a better future for YOU. :)

Oct 05 2005 05:28pm

Buzz
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 Buzz

If you get your political information from a rapper or any other celebrity then you clearly aren't the brightest person. A lot have little more than a high school education, some don't even have that. They shout whatever they're told and always believe it.

And if you ask why elect one governor of california, Arnold went to college and got a degree in economics. The intelligent ones know when to keep their mouths shut.


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Oct 05 2005 05:25pm

Yuken Zalak
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 Yuken Zalak

Bush just had no real reason... I admit that in the WTC case any other country would have stroken as well but then Iraq... They never found any weapons and the american walked to Iraq killing people when Iraq itself has enough people killing themselves.. No when Bush got the troops into Iraq, no-one is safe and this reflects to other countries... And many have died for what.. OIL... I would respect Bush a president and a person if he was smart instead of greed... Greenhouse effect... Why can´t he just agree with all the other countries... Maybe not all american knows that when you breath, you breath the WORST air in the whole world... America is filthier than the whole Europe together... And that effects everyhwere... Sure Bush doesn´t care he onlu lives 30 more years in his huge house... Well if USA cooped with other countries instead of gaining advantage of it, you grandchildren might not need to wear black robes to avoid UV radiation... THATS when Bush can stand and help and then be proud... And the Iraq thing.. How much did USA get from it and how much did it lose from it... BILLIONS OF DOLLARS LOST some oil after a few years... People lost their lives for pretty much nothing... The proud and nice reasons were all as fake as the dollface Bush himself... USA a pretty country with sucky leaders...
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This comment was edited by Yuken Zalak on Oct 05 2005 05:27pm.

Oct 05 2005 04:36pm

Tido
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 Tido

Ugh, there is nothing that sucks more than going to a concert or a show only to have to sit there and listen to politics...especially a musician's politics. If I wanted that I could have gone to a political party convention. Instead of hearing music I gotta endure listening to the latest drug induced highschool dropout perspective on global issues. It's gotten to the point where I always find out beforehand if the artist brings their soapbox on stage along with their guitars and stompboxes. Then I know when it's not even worth going. Last thing I want is spending my money and time on listening to someone who doesn't know what the hell they are talking about. Sadly, for most of my generation musical artists like Eminem are their largest source of information to base their ideals off of.

Oct 05 2005 04:00pm

Raziel Anjelis
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 Raziel Anjelis

tbh, JJ has a point, i mean we are still here today, and some may not admit it, but we still live because of SOME of the decisions they make :/.

Having said that, I am not a fan of either of them. I guess I'm neutral in this respect.
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Oct 05 2005 03:24pm

 
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People like Bush and Blair keep you safe. You should speak of them with a bit more respect. :/

Oct 05 2005 02:53pm

Yuken Zalak
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Might be :P there is just a fact Bush sucks hard :P
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Oct 05 2005 01:33pm

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 Ataris

Hmm oh noes, a political stand.. :D well I bet there's gonna be a huge debate in this thread later on.. I have my opinions about this matter, but I choose not to write them in the forums just because people tend to start huge debates on politics.. :D


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