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Jedi Academy V2 - Source Conversion - UPDATE 8
Jan 05 2006 11:46pm

Everon
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It's been a while since I released the Vlad tribute (last year) so I've decided to make a complete conversion of Virtue's (c) (r) Jedi Academy Version 2 (c) (r) map.

I'm going to try and improve on the design (if thats even possible) and give it a complete over haul to see what the map would be like with better graphics.

I would like some ideas and suggestions on improving the design and if possible for some one to make a blue print of the academy to help with the layout :).

Thanks for the help ;).

Zeke

Vlad Tribute Thread:
http://thejediacademy.net/forums_detail_page.php?f_id=13421



This post was edited by Virtue on Apr 23 2006 11:25pm.

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Apr 21 2006 11:39am

Majno
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Very nice, loved the snow stuff.:)
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Apr 20 2006 07:31pm

Vision
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Looking good as always. :D

Apr 18 2006 02:16am

Everon
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Update 1: (15/1/06)

I've managed to get a block map going with the basic details, the map also includes HDR
(High Dynamic Range Lighting) which creates the bloom effect. Textures from Jk3 are being converted with full bumpmap, normal map and Env mask capabilities (it'll be shiny and have a bumpmap).

Here are 2 images of the courtyard.

http://zeke-azakura.conception-design.net/v2c0006.jpg

http://zeke-azakura.conception-design.net/v2c0008.jpg

Update 2: (19/1/06)

The courtyard has been textured with full support for HDR lighting, the map has reflective materials (textures, called materials in source) with full support on bump maps and env masks (for reflectivity).

Here cometh the media:

http://zeke-azakura.conception-design.net/v2k0008.jpg

http://zeke-azakura.conception-design.net/v2k0009.jpg

http://zeke-azakura.conception-design.net/v2k0010.jpg

http://zeke-azakura.conception-design.net/v2k0011.jpg

http://zeke-azakura.conception-design.net/v2k0016.jpg

Heres an example of what I have to do in my texture/material work.

First I must copy the original texture from the Jk3 directory (I extracted my Pk3's).
Then I have to convert the texture to the VTF format created by valve for the source engine.

After I have to create 2 more versions of the image, the bumpmap (normal map) and the env mask (which specifies how reflective the material is).

Heres the bump map, env mask and original base texture in all there glory:

http://zeke-azakura.conception-design.net/door_stone01.jpg

http://zeke-azakura.conception-design.net/door_stone01_mask.jpg

http://zeke-azakura.conception-design.net/door_stone01_normal.jpg

The env mask uses a gray scale to decide how reflective that part of the material is in game, the brighter the color (white) the more reflective that part is, while the more darker the less reflective it is (black).

The normal map/Bump map is created by a filter in adobe photoshop (A plug in by nvidia) and is easily created, all I have to do is put some settings in.

Update 3: (21/1/06)

http://zeke-azakura.conception-design.net/v2m0000.jpg

http://zeke-azakura.conception-design.net/v2m0006.jpg

http://zeke-azakura.conception-design.net/v2m0007.jpg

http://zeke-azakura.conception-design.net/v2m0008.jpg

The sun has been changed to be more similar to the original in terms of atmosphere. In the next update the doors will be changed and a new room will probably be completed.

Update 4: (24/1/06)

As I said in the Last update, there will be a new room. If the map was to be completely successful I would have to recreate the Ceremonial hall (lukes room). The hall has been recreated greatly achitecture wise and at the moment is only lit by day light giving a pretty neat effect.

Torches will be added to lighten the place up as it is in Jk3, there will be more torches (no more Candles!) than the original because of the complexity of the new engine. The many light sources should create a warm atmosphere and bring the old place to life.

I reached a snag in development and had to redo the entire map, with it being done once before I managed it in little over 2 hours constant mapping and in so doing removed many bugs to create a smooth compile and map load.

Many fixes include:

Faster map load

More detailed shadows

No more "gloss door" effect, the reflection has been toned down and only shines as it should.

With all that said, let the media strike back:

http://zeke-azakura.conception-design.net/academy_1h0004.jpg

http://zeke-azakura.conception-design.net/academy_1h0005.jpg

http://zeke-azakura.conception-design.net/academy_1h0008.jpg

http://zeke-azakura.conception-design.net/academy_1h0011.jpg

http://zeke-azakura.conception-design.net/academy_1h0012.jpg

http://zeke-azakura.conception-design.net/academy_1h0013.jpg

http://zeke-azakura.conception-design.net/academy_1h0015.jpg

In other news, the map will be used to create a few short comics focused around the Academy and it's characters both high and low (no one's low here we're all friends ;)).

The comics will be linked in this thread heres one based on the HL2 universe I created a while ago:

http://zeke-azakura.conception-design.net/save%20the%20fish.jpg

Enjoy :).

Update 5: (22/2/06)

After all this time I've managed to rebuild some of the courtyard. The frying of the Computer set me back a fair bit but I knuckled under to rebuild the 40 textures of the map in under a day :).

As the last update was a while ago here is a little thing I put together that might make a good wall paper ;).

http://leak-free.org/academybattle.jpg

The image is on the academy map with a night setting, you can make out the edge of the courtyard and a space battle in the sky.

If every one likes it expect more ;).

Update 6: (7/3/06)

Again it was a while back since the last update but my Pc fried and I was helpless, never the less the new version is more like the original than any of the previous editions. Again feed back is welcome from all and I hope you enjoy this new set of media. :)

http://www.leak-free.org/ac2i0001.jpg

http://www.leak-free.org/ac2i0002.jpg

http://www.leak-free.org/ac2i0003.jpg

Update 7: (9/4/06)

No screens this time, but a tech demo of the converted textures in action. This isn't of the actual map. The demo demonstrates reflectivity, lightmap detail, the sound system and a nice piece of music from a sound track :).

http://www.leak-free.org/E3a.divx

Update 8: (18/4/06)

Decided to do a little change and change the season to winter. This is only rough and may develop in to some thing better if I spend more time on it. This was done in little under half an hour :).

http://leak-free.org/ac2x-winter-1b0004.jpg

http://leak-free.org/ac2x-winter-1b0007.jpg

http://leak-free.org/ac2x-winter-1b0001.jpg

http://leak-free.org/ac2x-winter-1b0008.jpg

Also, heres a small peak at the entrance to the dueling lobby from the courtyard. The lighting needs some work still.

http://leak-free.org/ac2x-winter-1b0002.jpg

The Ceremonial hall has been completed. Before I release any thing on that I would like to get the torch model converted which is currently being used to light the original hall.

In light of the model problem, I am asking any one who is able to model if they could help me in this dilemma as there will definitely be other models I need to convert to source.

Stay tuned for more updates.

Zeke



This comment was edited by Everon on Apr 18 2006 02:18am.

Apr 14 2006 04:18pm

SaZ
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 SaZ

nice :)
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Apr 14 2006 03:12pm

Everon
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 Everon

I'm not really sure if this is worth being a permie yet.

Apr 14 2006 02:44pm

Alex Dkana
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Well been a while since i posted here and look what i have been missing! Very impressive tech demo Zeke, you have done a fantastic job, its looking great! As Jarhok said it would be nice to see more people take an interest in this.

w00 w00!

Oh and wonderful choice of music for the tech demo, love the music in Lost.

Edit: Any chance of getting this permied?
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This comment was edited by Alex Dkana on Apr 14 2006 02:46pm.

Apr 14 2006 02:05pm

Jarhok Belouve
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 Jarhok Belouve

Very very nice tech demo, come on people generate more excitement! This could be the way forward for the JA..... Love the textures, definitely a very JA feel but looking ALOT nicer, good work - keep it up! :)
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Mar 13 2006 09:19pm

Jarhok Belouve
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 Jarhok Belouve

Sweet, add some leaves to those desolate trees! Other than that amazing, sorry havnt done much mapping with ya but I am very busy in rl atm. Sometime though, ;)
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Mar 05 2006 06:25pm

Vision
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 Vision

Wow, the pic with yoda and darth is really impressive. :) Very nice Zeke. :D

Feb 23 2006 09:19pm

Jarhok Belouve
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 Jarhok Belouve

Now that latest update is sweet, :)
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Feb 05 2006 03:51pm

Jarhok Belouve
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 Jarhok Belouve

I'm sure it will :)
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Jan 31 2006 11:22pm

Everon
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 Everon

Back online, new systems not as fast as I hoped, generally when a processor package says 3500+ amd athlon 64 it means 3.5 GHz (3500 MHz) not 2.2GHz (2200 MHz).

Oh well, 64 bit computer BETTER improve it ;).

Zeke

Jan 31 2006 11:30am

Setementor
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 Setementor

Wonder where your luck ran to, Zeke. :(

Jan 31 2006 10:26am

SaZ
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 SaZ

0mfg thats sad to hear zeke .
may the force be with you :)
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Jan 31 2006 10:11am

Everon
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 Everon

Over the last weekend my computer got fried and all data and information on the hard drive is believed to be long gone, therefore it may be a while before the next update.

I will be back online ASAP and look forward to get to work with a new system.

Old specs:

Pentium 4 - 2.4 GHz (socket 478)
512 Mb DDr1 Ram
Ati Radeon X800xt pe - 256 mb
5.1 surround sound on board.
120Gb Hard drive. (SATA)
2 Cd and DvD Drive (one of each).

New specs:

AMD Athlon 64 - 3.5GHz
768 Mb Ram DDr1 and DDr2
4 Cd and Dvd Drives
120 Gb Hard Drive (SATA)
Ati Radeon X800 Xt Pe - 256 Mb

Most on the hardware has been salvaged from the now combusted motherboard.

See you all in another life ;).

Zeke

Jan 26 2006 08:54pm

Everon
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u should consider making the whole v2 in to huuuuge nice garden :P


:eek:


sorry if that sounded like a joke but... well i think that even if this is just source version of v2, you should still try and improve this map... visually. from the screenshots it looks dull tbh.
im not saying its terribly made, no! u have 1337 sk1llz0r :P


Virtue didn't make the map to look uberly good (although it does look awesome) he made it to be useful to train in (which it is).

I'll make an improved version when the original is finished may be.

Jan 26 2006 10:54am

SaZ
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 SaZ

Quote:
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u should consider making the whole v2 in to huuuuge nice garden :P


:eek:


sorry if that sounded like a joke but... well i think that even if this is just source version of v2, you should still try and improve this map... visually. from the screenshots it looks dull tbh.
im not saying its terribly made, no! u have 1337 sk1llz0r :P
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Jan 26 2006 12:19am

Everon
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 Everon

Quote:
u should consider making the whole v2 in to huuuuge nice garden :P


:eek:

Jan 25 2006 02:17pm

SaZ
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 SaZ

u should consider making the whole v2 in to huuuuge nice garden :P
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Jan 24 2006 10:49pm

Everon
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 Everon

Quote:
hmmm i have to go to JA server to check this for sure but i think those walls near the window to the ceremonial hall should have some angle.
oh and nice comix


Truth, the walls in the original do have a slight angle, it's very awkward to get right in source so i'm leaving it out for now.

Jan 24 2006 10:22pm

SaZ
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 SaZ

hmmm i have to go to JA server to check this for sure but i think those walls near the window to the ceremonial hall should have some angle.
oh and nice comix
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Jan 24 2006 08:47pm

Duncan Frost
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 Duncan Frost

I've really got to get Half-Life 2... :(
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Jan 24 2006 06:59pm

Everon
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 Everon

Quote:
Thats very nice, this could possibly be the first step to creating a JA mod when this game is just too old in the tooth for anyone to want to play. Good work and think about that ^^ in the future if you up to the task. ;)


I'm no coder, and that would take a lot of damn coding dude :). Is there a coder in the house ? :P

Zeke

Jan 24 2006 06:57pm

Jarhok Belouve
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 Jarhok Belouve

Thats very nice, this could possibly be the first step to creating a JA mod when this game is just too old in the tooth for anyone to want to play. Good work and think about that ^^ in the future if you up to the task. ;) Perhaps a more yellowly golden lighting colour would be good though :)
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This comment was edited by Jarhok Belouve on Jan 24 2006 07:00pm.

Jan 22 2006 12:55am

Everon
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Quote:
It's meant to be stone.

:)

- Virtue. :alliance:


There we go then :).
Envmap almost zero :P.

It may not look much but in game it is great to mess around with, spawning 10 fast zombies and running round strafe jumping like a maniac with them on my tail is awesome :D.

Zeke

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