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May 09 2006 06:55am

DarthMike
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DarthMike
Sony Press Conference
E3 officially starts Wednesday, but the action started today with the Sony press conference. Some pretty big announcements about the PS3 were made. Watch Here.
It runs for about 2 hours, most of it is just the usual junk about HD and Blue-Ray and all that. Lots of game trailers and demos from both first and third party developers. Here are the main points:

-Price is officially set at $499 USD for the 20GB model, and $599 for the 60GB model.

-Release date is set at November 17 in the USA.

-The controller will be motion sensing just like the Wii controller. Design is exactly the same as the PS2 controller. Is actually lighter than the PS2 controller.

-It will have an online community with profiles, rankings, text and video chats, ect, for free.

-It will integrate seamlessly with the PSP. Examples include using the PSP as your rear-view mirror in a racing game.

It's looking to me like the PS3 will be kicking some serious ass.

Nintendo Press Conference
Not as big of a show as Sony's, but still some signifigant progress. Watch Here
This one's only about an hour long. More announcements about the controller were made. It will have a speaker right on it that can be used in conjunction with the tv's speakers to create fade out or fade in effects. Also, in addition to the main controller being motion sensitive, the joystick attachment will also have its own motion sensing. The controller will have a rumble feature, unlike the PS3's. They are still keeping quiet about price and release date, except for saying it will be Q4 2006. Also they had demos of the next Zelda, Red Steel, Mario, and other games. Another big announcement was made concerning the Wii's online functionality. Apparently the Wii will be able to stay connected to the internet 24/7, allowing developers to send you new content even while the console is off. Also in a game such as Animal Crossing, your friends can visit your house while you are away.



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This post was edited by DarthMike on May 11 2006 09:38pm.

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May 17 2006 11:59pm

Mic Den Octela
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Sony is losing some small amount on every PS3 they sell (apparently). (Don't remember but its something like 23%) They're hoping to make it back on the games.

And if they don't?

Then they're pretty much screwed... A lot of PS3's are gonna be bought.
Microsft loses $130 on each console they sell. Nintendo will probably lose some too. Its common for the consoles to lose money, they can make it up later when the consoles become cheaper to make and people buy lots of games. And you are very much right about the PS3 selling a bunch.


Actually, a lot of preliminary information was saying that nintendo was going to be able to actuallymake a profit when selling the console.

And 23% is not a small amount when you're talking money. And what happens if they don't do well and don't sell enough accessories and games to actually start making a profit? 4 words: Sega Saturn, Sega Dreamcast.


A screw up in the way i worded it, i didnt want to get flamed for saying Sony could pretty much fail. However, you said what i was trying to say there Buzz.

Sony are taking a huge risk... Bigger than the ps2 and ps1 were IMO.
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May 17 2006 11:48pm

Kenyon
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 Kenyon

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I have to admit, the official trailer of redsteel was rather impressive, even though the swordfighting in the trailer wasnt real-time at all. The actual demonstration footage of redsteel which included real-time swordfighting didnt impress me as that much tbh. As far as i know, you have one key for blocking and you can swing from any direction you want...uhm, thats it. I mightve missed a few details >_>''


Red Steel is using the controller the wrong way. It's trying to emulate a classic controller.

For example: Instead of following the movements of your hand and translating them directly and immediately to the in-game character's movements, it waits for a move it recognizes and only after the move has completed, the character performs a "pre-recorded" move. i.e. it tries to translate a gesture into a single-action just like a classic controller translates a button tap to a single-action. For more information you can check out IGN Wii's preview of Red Steel, where the problem is discussed in more detail.

Red Steel is the ONLY game so far that uses this cheap trick. Some people think that Ubisoft only used this gimmick because their true-3D controls were not ready yet to make the demo. I personally think that Ubisoft is planning to port this game to other platforms and thus needs to make it less dependent on location awareness.

The Wii controller CAN and DOES sense its location and orientation in 3D space, most games will use this ability just "as we think it will". :)

May 17 2006 09:32pm

DarthMike
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 DarthMike

I'm pretty sure Sony will do just fine, they had way more people buy the PS2 than GC and Xbox. Yea, Nintendo might make money on the console or at least not lose as much, but they can't shake off the stereotype that their games are for kids. I didn't think about lightsabers for the Wii, maybe, just maybe JK4??????????
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This comment was edited by DarthMike on May 17 2006 09:34pm.

May 17 2006 02:55pm

Buzz
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 Buzz

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Sony is losing some small amount on every PS3 they sell (apparently). (Don't remember but its something like 23%) They're hoping to make it back on the games.

And if they don't?

Then they're pretty much screwed... A lot of PS3's are gonna be bought.
Microsft loses $130 on each console they sell. Nintendo will probably lose some too. Its common for the consoles to lose money, they can make it up later when the consoles become cheaper to make and people buy lots of games. And you are very much right about the PS3 selling a bunch.


Actually, a lot of preliminary information was saying that nintendo was going to be able to actuallymake a profit when selling the console.

And 23% is not a small amount when you're talking money. And what happens if they don't do well and don't sell enough accessories and games to actually start making a profit? 4 words: Sega Saturn, Sega Dreamcast.
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May 17 2006 02:54pm

Senor Hat
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 Senor Hat

Go Nintendo!!!

That is all.
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May 17 2006 11:36am

Masta
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 Masta

I have to admit, the official trailer of redsteel was rather impressive, even though the swordfighting in the trailer wasnt real-time at all. The actual demonstration footage of redsteel which included real-time swordfighting didnt impress me as that much tbh. As far as i know, you have one key for blocking and you can swing from any direction you want...uhm, thats it. I mightve missed a few details >_>''

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May 17 2006 10:30am

Kenyon
 - Lord of the Dance
 Kenyon

Yeah, but just watch that swordfight demonstration on a Wii controller - full motion simulation... right. Now think lightsabers. :D

May 16 2006 09:34pm

DarthMike
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 DarthMike

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Sony is losing some small amount on every PS3 they sell (apparently). (Don't remember but its something like 23%) They're hoping to make it back on the games.

And if they don't?

Then they're pretty much screwed... A lot of PS3's are gonna be bought.
Microsft loses $130 on each console they sell. Nintendo will probably lose some too. Its common for the consoles to lose money, they can make it up later when the consoles become cheaper to make and people buy lots of games. And you are very much right about the PS3 selling a bunch.
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May 16 2006 08:55pm

Lord Jaws
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 Lord Jaws

I love my 360, never been a Sony guy.

Specially Oblivion, and looking foreward to new games like Fable 2 and the new Splinter Cell
^^ Xbox is of da Chain!
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May 16 2006 06:50pm

Mic Den Octela
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 Mic Den Octela

Sony is losing some small amount on every PS3 they sell (apparently). (Don't remember but its something like 23%) They're hoping to make it back on the games.

And if they don't?

Then they're pretty much screwed... A lot of PS3's are gonna be bought.
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May 13 2006 07:35pm

Plo Koon
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 Plo Koon

it looks gorgeous but 499$? i think ill wait a while...
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May 13 2006 07:06pm

NotSoLittleCaesar
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 NotSoLittleCaesar

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wii ftw!
Speculation is that is will be 135 for the console, controle, AND 3 games!
nah, it'll be $200 for console and controller, probably still $50 for a game.


*cough* 135 pounds = roughly 200 dollars ..ish

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May 10 2006 09:57pm

DarthMike
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 DarthMike

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wii ftw!
Speculation is that is will be 135 for the console, controle, AND 3 games!
nah, it'll be $200 for console and controller, probably still $50 for a game.
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May 10 2006 09:55pm

NotSoLittleCaesar
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 NotSoLittleCaesar

wii ftw!
Speculation is that is will be 135 for the console, controle, AND 3 games!
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I mostly agree oh Lord of the squeezy mop


This comment was edited by NotSoLittleCaesar on May 10 2006 09:55pm.

May 10 2006 09:49pm

Monteeeeeee
 - Nugget
 Monteeeeeee

Be rich like me and buy all 3 :P

i really enjoy my xbox 360, live is so simple to navigate and to invite friends to instantly join your multiplayer game is refreshing and some of the games are awesome, like Ghost Recon which yes is now out on pc but u need a beast of a machine to run it aswell as the 360 shows it off at.

They do what they are made for, they play games, all the other stuff is just gimmicks and i dont use them, i use my DIVX/DVD standalone for movies and a ipod for music and my pc for photos ..
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May 10 2006 04:40pm

Orion
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 Orion

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nintendo doesnt have enough quality titles imo.


what!? you are crazy...

a new Zelda, Mario, Red Steel, Metrio Prim, a new Marvel game ( Raven plug :P ), Final Fantasy games, another Resident evil? those are going to be some quality games. Just to name a few. From what it seems Nintendo is going to blow Microsoft and probably Sony out of the water with the number of launch titles. They are showing 27 PLAYABLE games on the floor at E3. IF they can get half of those at launch they will have a great launch for Wii..
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May 10 2006 09:18am

Rinzler
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 Rinzler

nintendo doesnt have enough quality titles imo.
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May 10 2006 08:23am

Buzz
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 Buzz

Also it seems Lucasarts is showing their lineup for E3 at their main page. No new Jedi Knight game it seems. Empire at War Expansion though.
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May 10 2006 08:18am

Buzz
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 Buzz

I believe that Nintendo, unlike Microsoft and Sony are actually going to be able to start making profit immediately when someone purchases a game. Sony and Microsoft won't and don't make money until after someone purchases a couple games and additional accessories.
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May 09 2006 11:44pm

Alex Dkana
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 Alex Dkana

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Haha seen that before, good stuff!

Oh and i agree with Orion, although i can see why some people would like the 360, the way things are playing out as long as Nintendo keep the price of the Wii down, and advertise it at least as well as they have the DS, then they will have a much better time of it this time around.
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May 09 2006 11:23pm

Masta
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 Masta

Very Good Fight
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May 09 2006 11:07pm

Orion
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 Orion

Screw sony and its 600 dollar console!

Nintendo FTW!! Wii is so gonna rock!
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May 09 2006 08:10pm

Maher
 - Jedi Knight
 Maher

No console never owns Xbox 360 and that is the fact. Xbox's live system.....and that how you can play it for free:D
There is some server emulation what people have created like own xbox live system...I think It is legal for now, but I am sure that Microsoft will make some correction for it.
I have Xbox but I don't use Xbox live system and I don't use also that emulation system just play with Xbox......If you looking games what is service for Xbox.
Kotor serie
Halo serie
Those are enough reasons for me, why I keep Xbox better than PS3 or 2:D
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This comment was edited by Maher on May 09 2006 08:11pm.

May 09 2006 06:53pm

Alex Dkana
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 Alex Dkana

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Consoles ftl? =D

E3 ftw though, lets see if that new vader game gets announced.


word.


What word? There are many! :P

I still think there is room for consoles, just wish they would get over the current 'try to be an all powerful, all doing, all expensive, pc copy-that you can't upgrade' fad.
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May 09 2006 06:46pm

SaZ
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 SaZ

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Consoles ftl? =D

E3 ftw though, lets see if that new vader game gets announced.


word.
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