| X-men 3: The Last Stand ****Movie Discussion with Spoilers**** | |
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To me, it is just easier to make a seperate topic for the movie itself. Do you guys think there will be another X-Men? At first, when I saw Xavier fizzle and Magneto lose his powers, I thought this must be the last movie. The title does indeed say "The Last Stand." However, at the end before the credits... I'm sure most of you astute observers noticed that Magneto could possibly be getting his powers back (slight tremble of a metal piece I believe). I wonder if "the cure" wears off for all mutants, or only those powerful enough, like class 4 (Magneto's class I think) or maybe 3. Magneto took around 4 needles via Beast  Of course, with Magneto getting his powers back, he will most likely return to his old ways.Onto the scene after the credits. My sister almost made me leave, thought we would look too dorky :p That scene was a rather nice touch. Xavier's death was quite unique, but he seemed rather calm during the whole process. Just like Magneto who somehow managed to reintegrate himself into society using his resources (reference to the book) and avoid being caught, Xavier had a backup plan too it seems. With this new body, I assume he will actually be able to walk. To me, this hints at another movie, but if you think about it, these last two scenes represent the notion that where evil exists there will always be good to oppose it. Yin and Yang type thing. Xavier and Magneto are a pair. In most of Xmen I know, they just are always there. Friends with differing views concerning mutants and relations with humans. Onto other smaller notes... Beast rocked - wonderful acting heh, and pretty cool cartoon series like fighting moves. Cyclops had a very short appearance. It makes sense that he's all torn up about Jean and decided to go find her on his own. Just seemed way too abrupt. Angel had quite a minor role. Coming into the movie, I thought Angel would be a little more important. As solitude stated before, could be that the next movie if it is made, may delve more into Angel's story. Storm - Halley Barey is quite hot. As Storm, I saw her as the only X-men to take over after Xavier. To me, Storm had a Palpatine moment when frying Callisto on the fence lol. Zap Zap Zap etc. Phoenix - was rather awesome. Whenever Jean was in Phoenix mode, she looked rather sick  BTW, when Wolverine killed Phoenix, it looked like Jean showed a sign of relief before dying.Wolverine - well acted and portrayed in the movie, what I totally expected. Juggernaut - Didn't really mention he was Xavier's stepbro. I know the movie varied from the comics/tv series a good bit, but I feel little things like these are nice to see. That's all I have to say atm. _______________ "Do or do not, there is no try" Jedi Master Yoda Dual Saberist |
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Raziel Anjelis - Student 
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And how he said 'Charles did more for mutants than you will ever know'' to Pyro. _______________ Proud owner of El Vee For's 200th Comment, and Wicek's 2600th comment  DaMi3N's 400th, Trad Redav's 666th.
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R2D2 - Staff 
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Right Raziel, he mentioned it was one of his biggest regrets with Charles having to die. _______________ "Do or do not, there is no try" Jedi Master Yoda Dual Saberist |
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Raziel Anjelis - Student
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Even though he's as muscly as hell....Wall > Juggernaut. And I think theres a small splitsecond scene in which you see Cyclops drowning. What I really love is how Magneto didn't want to lose Xavier, and when Pyro insults Charles, Magneto defends Charles fervently. Just goes to show how friendship is still there, even with differing points of view. _______________ Proud owner of El Vee For's 200th Comment, and Wicek's 2600th comment DaMi3N's 400th, Trad Redav's 666th.
This comment was edited by Raziel Anjelis on Jun 20 2006 11:49am. |
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Buzz - Student 
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Never apply fandom when you are going from comics to movies. When we were sitting, in the theater waiting for the credits to end, there were some people behind us. And one of them was just going on and on about how "Iceman still needs to get his Omega powers" and and the need for the aliens of the comics and crap to still be in the movies. Bunch of other stuff like that. And Juggernaut isn't a mutant in the comics. It was the gem of cytorrak that gave him his powers. In the movie he was a mutant, as shown by Leech's ability to stop him. Complete change in backstory _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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R2D2 - Staff 
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Ruby found in a Cyttorak ruin or something along those lines is the source of his power. Pretty sure Magneto is Level 4. About what happened to the other mutants... I think it is similar to what happened with Cyclops. You assume Phoenix toasted them, but you never know. Side note for Dane: If Scott and/or Jean did indeed die, would it be possible for Cable to exist? Isn't he like Cyclops and Jean's son, or something along those lines? _______________ "Do or do not, there is no try" Jedi Master Yoda Dual Saberist This comment was edited by R2D2 on Jun 20 2006 07:08am. |
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Raziel Anjelis - Student 
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He's genetically engineered or something? I can't remember. _______________ Proud owner of El Vee For's 200th Comment, and Wicek's 2600th comment DaMi3N's 400th, Trad Redav's 666th.
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D@RtHM@UL - Student 
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Quote: I think its because a) Phoenix was a split personality to Jean Grey, Jean Grey being the good half while Phoenix occupying the bad. As Phoenix is a manifestation of her personality, it wouldn't have got rid of Phoenix, just suppressed her powers. And also, Magneto is a class 3 or 4 mutant...3 i think, and 4 doses were not enough to 'cure' him, so I doubt they'd have any effect on her, being a class 5 and all. But, Jean Grey did want Wolverine to kill her in the first place, so, I guess it was what she felt would stop Phoenix. Like killing the host erases the home for a parasite. Didn't Calisto say everyone in the room was a Class 3 mutant or lower, except Pyro and Magneto? That makes him a Class 4, since he wasn't as strong as the Phoenix who was Class 5. On a side note, wtf is up with the Juggernaut in the movie? His powers got cancelled when he came close to Leech, which is incorrect, since the Juggernaut's powers aren't caused by mutation. |
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Raziel Anjelis - Student
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Quote: Just came back from seeing it, great special effects and the action scenes were cool. Story plain sucked though, pretty much everyone got either killed or cured, way too many characters that play major parts in the comics are seen only briefly and about who we get almost no info (Juggernaut and Angel for example). Watched pretty much all cartoon series of X-Men, and read a lot of the comics, and I can't remember so many people dying..... Also disliked that we didn't get to see what happened to the Juggernaut, Pyro and others. Did they die or what? I suppose they were only secondary to the storyline. The X-men trilogy is 90% Wolverine anyway. Although I thought the fight between Pyro and Iceman was ace _______________ Proud owner of El Vee For's 200th Comment, and Wicek's 2600th comment DaMi3N's 400th, Trad Redav's 666th.
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D@RtHM@UL - Student
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Just came back from seeing it, great special effects and the action scenes were cool. Story plain sucked though, pretty much everyone got either killed or cured, way too many characters that play major parts in the comics are seen only briefly and about who we get almost no info (Juggernaut and Angel for example). Watched pretty much all cartoon series of X-Men, and read a lot of the comics, and I can't remember so many people dying..... Also disliked that we didn't get to see what happened to the Juggernaut, Pyro and others. Did they die or what? |
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Raziel Anjelis - Student
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I think its because a) Phoenix was a split personality to Jean Grey, Jean Grey being the good half while Phoenix occupying the bad. As Phoenix is a manifestation of her personality, it wouldn't have got rid of Phoenix, just suppressed her powers. And also, Magneto is a class 3 or 4 mutant...3 i think, and 4 doses were not enough to 'cure' him, so I doubt they'd have any effect on her, being a class 5 and all. But, Jean Grey did want Wolverine to kill her in the first place, so, I guess it was what she felt would stop Phoenix. Like killing the host erases the home for a parasite. _______________ Proud owner of El Vee For's 200th Comment, and Wicek's 2600th comment DaMi3N's 400th, Trad Redav's 666th.
This comment was edited by Raziel Anjelis on Jun 20 2006 12:31am. |
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Ashyr - Student 
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This may have been said in this thread, but one thing bothered me when it ended: Why did Wolverine have to kill Jean? Why couldn't he have just given her the cure? Of course, due to the end, the cure might not be permenant. _______________ Top ten reasons to get a better computer...|My fan |
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Mindrith Pride - Student 
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Quote: Reading through the book, Gambit is mentioned as a new X-men at the end "to watch out for." In response to Dane, I believe Bishop/Cable would be for another "saga." Gambit, as I mentioned before, may be present in possible future X-men, not sure how the relationship with Rogue will go though. For Mindrith: Scene after credits is at a hospital-like patient room. There's a doctor (lady). If you recall in Professor Xavier's lesson to his students before he noticed Storm was rather irritated atm, Xavier played a video showing a terminally ill patient who isn't consciously awake. He was discussing if it was ethical for a mutant to transfer his consciousness into this man. Well, this comes back with the same doctor (Doctor Moira). I believe the Doctor enters the room, checking in on the patient. The patient turns toward her and asks, "Dr. Moira?" And she responds, "Charles..?" Dr. Moira seems to have a history with Xavier. Well, the Professor lives, but in a different body If they ever make another X-men, it maybe a Wolverine/ Magneto story film OR something like the story concerning Apocalypse. Found this interesting links with supposed cut out and other secret scenes: http://www.originaltrilogy.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=11&threadid=5521 thanks r2  i do definatly hope there are more x-men films, and maybe even more cartoon series  like xmen evolution, i liked those. _______________ [proud owner of talions 200th, 700th,1111th coment AND 1400th , DJK's 3001th coment! , saz's 400th coment! liso's 800th coment! Kitmitsu Aratan's 1200th comment! Cau's 100th comeent, Alexander's (aka CC) 210th, 888th and 2200th comments! Moriarti's 800th comment , Piccolo's 2000th comment! lirael's 505th comment , Quom Farlance's 120th comment, Alexander's 1800th comment , Eica's 1400th comment , Wicek's 3200th comment lady C's 999th comment, Echuu's 1100th comment, Takaru's 325th and 400th comment, Redeye's 200th comment picc's 3600th comment, Ostith's 50th comment, Elmo's 555th comment] |
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Reading through the book, Gambit is mentioned as a new X-men at the end "to watch out for." In response to Dane, I believe Bishop/Cable would be for another "saga." Gambit, as I mentioned before, may be present in possible future X-men, not sure how the relationship with Rogue will go though. For Mindrith: Scene after credits is at a hospital-like patient room. There's a doctor (lady). If you recall in Professor Xavier's lesson to his students before he noticed Storm was rather irritated atm, Xavier played a video showing a terminally ill patient who isn't consciously awake. He was discussing if it was ethical for a mutant to transfer his consciousness into this man. Well, this comes back with the same doctor (Doctor Moira). I believe the Doctor enters the room, checking in on the patient. The patient turns toward her and asks, "Dr. Moira?" And she responds, "Charles..?" Dr. Moira seems to have a history with Xavier. Well, the Professor lives, but in a different body If they ever make another X-men, it maybe a Wolverine/ Magneto story film OR something like the story concerning Apocalypse. Found this interesting links with supposed cut out and other secret scenes: http://www.originaltrilogy.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=11&threadid=5521 _______________ "Do or do not, there is no try" Jedi Master Yoda Dual Saberist This comment was edited by R2D2 on Jun 19 2006 03:54am. |
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Buzz - Student
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Quote: Just go to www.youtube.com and search for x-men3 credits Don't expect to find it though, since showing that would be violating quite a few laws, and youtube will remove it as fast as possible. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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I read somewhere that the juggernaut was signed for an x3 x4 and x5 soooooooo I could be wrong but thats what I read _______________
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Rosie - Student 
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Just go to www.youtube.com and search for x-men3 credits |
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Mindrith Pride - Student 
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oh and what happens in this scene after the credits? in as much detail as possible pls i didnt know there was one >_> _______________ [proud owner of talions 200th, 700th,1111th coment AND 1400th , DJK's 3001th coment! , saz's 400th coment! liso's 800th coment! Kitmitsu Aratan's 1200th comment! Cau's 100th comeent, Alexander's (aka CC) 210th, 888th and 2200th comments! Moriarti's 800th comment , Piccolo's 2000th comment! lirael's 505th comment , Quom Farlance's 120th comment, Alexander's 1800th comment , Eica's 1400th comment , Wicek's 3200th comment lady C's 999th comment, Echuu's 1100th comment, Takaru's 325th and 400th comment, Redeye's 200th comment picc's 3600th comment, Ostith's 50th comment, Elmo's 555th comment] |
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Mindrith Pride - Student
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you missed kitty she said one of my favourite lines to the juggernaut "whos hiding dickhead?" anyways its a awesome movie, i hope they make another one _______________ [proud owner of talions 200th, 700th,1111th coment AND 1400th , DJK's 3001th coment! , saz's 400th coment! liso's 800th coment! Kitmitsu Aratan's 1200th comment! Cau's 100th comeent, Alexander's (aka CC) 210th, 888th and 2200th comments! Moriarti's 800th comment , Piccolo's 2000th comment! lirael's 505th comment , Quom Farlance's 120th comment, Alexander's 1800th comment , Eica's 1400th comment , Wicek's 3200th comment lady C's 999th comment, Echuu's 1100th comment, Takaru's 325th and 400th comment, Redeye's 200th comment picc's 3600th comment, Ostith's 50th comment, Elmo's 555th comment] |
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Rinzler - Student 
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i think they killed off too many characters that are never supposed to die. also i would like to see bishop/cable in addition to gambit. _______________ I fite for teh usars!1 |
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Fire - Student 
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Juggernaut was hands down the best thing in the whole movie. I'M THE JUGGERNAUT, BITCH. Check out the video on thatvideosite.com and you'll know exactly what I mean. |
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R2D2 - Staff
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lol, Juggernaut wasn't too intimidating. Kitty took him down ! _______________ "Do or do not, there is no try" Jedi Master Yoda Dual Saberist |
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Raziel Anjelis - Student
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Yeah, I miss Gambit. I'd like to see Archangel as well. But hang on.....Colossus is called Piotr Rasputin....and his bio says he's russian, yet in the movie he's american? =o And I guess the Last was there because the X-men thought that the battle between them and the Brotherhood was going to be their last....only it wasn't And the part where Juggernaut goes ''I'm the Juggernaut, b***h!'' was apparently taken from an internet cartoon, where he just walks around spamming ''I'm the juggernaut, b***h!" _______________ Proud owner of El Vee For's 200th Comment, and Wicek's 2600th comment DaMi3N's 400th, Trad Redav's 666th.
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Rosie - Student 
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No, I just don't like him, oh and btw I don't think Rogue seeing him with Shadow-cat helped either!! GAMBIT FTW! |
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Raziel Anjelis - Student
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Die Iceman? You're not holding him to blame for Rogue losing the powers are you? _______________ Proud owner of El Vee For's 200th Comment, and Wicek's 2600th comment DaMi3N's 400th, Trad Redav's 666th.
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Rosie - Student
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What you said And I hope that it's true that the no-powers effect will wear off eventually. I want Rouge to get her powers back! Die Iceman!! And I liked how shadow-cat used her powers, when I saw her running after Juggernaut I thought, what is she gonna do against him. Walk through? oooo scary. And another thing. If the boy had the effect that you lost your powers when you're close to him, do you think it would work to take him closer to Jean? Or would he not make it and die from all particles being shredded. I still get the shivers from the guy with the neddles coming out of his skin. what else.... The soundtrack rocks!! Especially the phoenix songs. This comment was edited by Rosie on Jun 17 2006 01:26pm. |
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