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Monteeeeeee - Nugget 
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sucks for you guys, i'd hate them to annouce 24 not being made anymore _______________ If you add me to MSN, tell me who you are 
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Alex Dkana - Staff 
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Quote: Well, I guess it's official. Lost will end in 2010 with 3 shorter seasons of 16 episodes each.
http://www.thetailsection.com/lost-news/breaking-news-lost-to-end-in-2.php And yes I do hope Jack pulls himself together and quits being whipped by Juliet. I hate that girl. Yeah i read that, i like the idea although i think it would be better if it was just two more series of 24 episodes. Still... good to see they are not going to milk it for all its got like some shows. Oh and RE Cult shows writers dragging them out to make money: Yeaaaah thats obviously going to happen, it happens with most media forms - comics, bands, films. They keep releasing new stuff if its popular. I would point out its not the writers at all, rather a decision by the producers (or sometimes strait from the company that owns the show), the writers do the best they can to keep the show interesting for the viewers and if they dont they are not doing their job. Personally the reason i watch or even find out about shows like Lost/heroes/24 etc. is because i hope they have a long life span, the difficulty is making it work over the large amount of time, i feel Lost just about achieves this despite some edgy moments in s2, its not as if 24 has done it flawlessly. Take Firefly and Farscape for instance, they are cult shows that got cut before they were 'finished' and the fans were upset, as far as i can tell fans of things like this are just easily annoyed and want control. Hah i wasn't going to write all that but i have now
Aaaaanyway, yeah i think Mikhail could have been faking, if so then it means that fence is a specific anti-smoke monster device. I mean if people do come back to life on the island i feel sorry for those poor souls they buried lol. _______________ To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield | Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken | Rhaiko D'kana - SWTOR EU Guild Co-Founder | Is it what the teacher, teaches? Or what the student learns? A Dkana |
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LEO2033 - Student 
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Well, I guess it's official. Lost will end in 2010 with 3 shorter seasons of 16 episodes each.
http://www.thetailsection.com/lost-news/breaking-news-lost-to-end-in-2.php And yes I do hope Jack pulls himself together and quits being whipped by Juliet. I hate that girl. _______________ Katan's Music Bruver
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R2D2 - Staff 
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Quote: There are rumors going about that ABC is going to annouce an end date for Lost. I guess this is what the producers wanted so they dont have to drag the story forever. Supposedly they want the last season to be season 5. 2 more seasons of Lost is good enough for me. BTW anyone surprised at Mikhail (the russian guy) being alive again? Or was he never dead in the first place.
I think Mikhail could have faked it. Also, if you've noticed, there have been references that space and time may not be as they seem (2 Flight 815s etc..). For instance, a guard in the Other's camp was reading Hawking's _A Brief History of Time_. I also remember something about the weird brainwashing video having a reference to space and time. Hard to tell with Mikhail still... heh. I want Jack to get a grip on himself, and stop being whipped by Juliet! _______________ "Do or do not, there is no try" Jedi Master Yoda Dual Saberist |
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LEO2033 - Student
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There are rumors going about that ABC is going to annouce an end date for Lost. I guess this is what the producers wanted so they dont have to drag the story forever. Supposedly they want the last season to be season 5. 2 more seasons of Lost is good enough for me. BTW anyone surprised at Mikhail (the russian guy) being alive again? Or was he never dead in the first place. _______________ Katan's Music Bruver
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SaZ - Student 
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Quote: The writters will stretch out the story as long as it draws in money. And wrap it all up when the ratings finaly drop out. I end up getting tired of them all within the first season.
thank god someone knows english more than i do. lol _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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Again, says you.
 I can only presume you have not been following the show as regularly or closely as other viewers. One of the shows main criticisms is that it dosn't answer all the questions and explore all the (many) mysteries of the island quickly enough. it does not answer anything at all. story flows as fast as snail, the makers of the series are truly pros of lengthening the episodes. the story of 3 seasons could have been made into one season. no one would get hurt. LOST is very character driven. You can't develop characters to the extent LOST does and resolve all of their stories within one season. If you pay attention, you'll notice that almost each character's flashback relates directly to what is happening presently in the episode it is in. As for stretching it all out, let's examine the basic story lines for each season... ***MILD SPOILERS (not going into great details, but if you plan to watch LOST, don't read this)*** Season 1 - Get to know the characters and some of the dark secrets they hide. They learn about some of the mysteries of the island, but do not get much in the way of explanations as of yet (they have no clue what is going on, like the viewers). During this season, the Others are introduced in a vague fashion (they keep on kidnapping people), as if we were viewing them as one of the main characters from the fuselage. Season 2 - Starts off resolving the finale from last season of course, and in the process introduces a new group of characters who were part of the tail section of the airplane. Naturally, the viewers get some episodes with background info concerning this group of characters. Eventually, both groups meet up and realize they have a common enemy, the Others. Meanwhile, some characters investigate a station on the island called the "Hatch" (which was dramatically introduced in season 1). One of the Others is captured (not revealed as an Other until later) and interrogated. His presence leads to one of the characters betraying his fellow tail section members and delivering some hostages to the Others. Meanwhile, one character decides to investigate the supposed location of the Other's camp and finds it, but it turns out to be empty
The few characters involved with the "Hatch" decide to take a risk by not punching in a certain sequence of numbers which has always been punched in supposedly to "save the world." As a result a huge EM disturbance is released after a character uses a manual override. In the last bit of the finale, a research station hired by one of the island's characters noticed the EMP (possible chance of getting rescued). Season 3 - Starts off by following what happens to the hostages and what happens to the Hatch. The viewers get to see how the Others live and learn more about them. Apparently, all of them don't get along so well The interrogation scenes and the stuff regarding the Others got rather slowwww at this point in the season. Eventually, some of the hostages escape, while one stays behind and lives with the Others. Meanwhile, the tailies are discovering other stations on the island in order to better understand what is going on. A rescue party is conducted for the one member that is still imprisoned by the Others. Lot of interesting events happen when they reach the Other's camp/living area. The last hostage is rescued but it turns out he had a somewhat normal life with the Others and has a friend which he brings back with him. Here's where the latest episodes come in. As you can tell, this friend that is taken back with the rescue party leads to some trouble.
From what I've seen, most of the odd stuff in Season 1 and some of Season 2 has been explained or further looked into. Almost every detail about the island has some sort of explanation or will be building up to an explanation soon. IF I were to cut off anything from the previous episodes, I would have shortened some of the stuff concerning the tail section members and/or the interrogations by the Others because those were two of the times where LOST was crawling imo. Of course, if you cut stuff, the viewers lose insight into certain details which were presented earlier. I don't want to make any blatant spoilers, but if anyone that actually follows LOST closely and thinks it sucks wants me to, I can talk with them individually on how LOST gets around to explaining some of the weird stuff on the island that we have seen. Of course, currently, there are still some stuff have not been fully explained, but I have a good feeling that they will be revisited soon. LOST is pretty much gathering the scattered pieces of a puzzle and putting them together slowly, until finally when the series ends, the viewers will have a good grasp of the Island, Others, and other mysteries that were revealed. _______________ "Do or do not, there is no try" Jedi Master Yoda Dual Saberist |
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Quote: Again, says you.
Who else would say it? Just wanted to make something clear. These are discussion forums where people can share an opinion that may or may not agree with your own. So the need to point out what is an opinion is moot at the very least. Carry on. [edit] And for the record, Lost is like any other mega popular series out there. Prison break, 24 and eventually Heroes. The writers will stretch out the story as long as it draws in money. And wrap it all up when the ratings finaly drop out. I end up getting tired of them all within the first season. - HW _______________ ::Nothing wrong with a little shooting.....as long as the right people get shot:: This comment was edited by Hardwired on May 06 2007 08:47pm. |
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SaZ - Student 
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Quote: Again, says you.
I can only presume you have not been following the show as regularly or closely as other viewers. One of the shows main criticisms is that it dosn't answer all the questions and explore all the (many) mysteries of the island quickly enough. it does not answer anything at all. story flows as fast as snail, the makers of the series are truly pros of lengthening the episodes. the story of 3 seasons could have been made into one season. no one would get hurt. _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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Alex Dkana - Staff 
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Your second point seems odd anyway though, i could easily say 24 should have ended after its second series? Star Trek could have ended after the Original Series, Star Wars could have ended after the OT...
the main difference is that Lost doesnt have anything left to show. Again, says you. I can only presume you have not been following the show as regularly or closely as other viewers. One of the shows main criticisms is that it dosn't answer all the questions and explore all the (many) mysteries of the island quickly enough.
Qin Yes i agree, however my point was that Star Wars as a franchise could have finished after RotJ and never reappeared (including books/games and such). I agree the PT is probably the most inferior aspect of the mainstream Star Wars legacy. R2 Yeah i think i sounded something like Hiro from Heroes when they decided to bring in Sayid, it put most of my favourite characters in one group hehe. I agree about Kate, i just knew she'd go tell Jack, she relies on him too much. Your three points all make sense, my first thoughts were that Jack thinks he is double crossing the others with Juliet, but in fact is being triple crossed himself or somesuch. The Kate-baby thing is also possible, although i'm not sure why Juliet would tell Jack? _______________ To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield | Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken | Rhaiko D'kana - SWTOR EU Guild Co-Founder | Is it what the teacher, teaches? Or what the student learns? A Dkana |
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NotSoLittleCaesar - Student 
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I was refering to the EU as well there Qin, if i remember correctly you are a bit of a fan, particularly of Mandalorians? No EU none of that. Personally i'm most glad Star Wars has continued on after the OT, its created a mythology that counts for a lot more than the original heroes journey that GL wrote about way back. i quote some random video i saw on youtube a while back ''6 films - or at least, if your a true fan - 3 and 3 imposters that ruined the series!'' but yes - im a fan of the EU - and the newer films, but the OT was far better than the Phantom menace and clone wars (ep 3 was by far the best of the 3). The eu could still be around without the Newer films :p _______________ Quote: I mostly agree oh Lord of the squeezy mop
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Yea, Sayid was a good choice but involving Kate was a mistake. Of course, if they didn't involve her, she would have gotten rather paranoid, so they were a little stuck.
As for what Jack and Juliet aren't telling Kate... I have a few ideas about that. 1. She is also pregnant. 2. Jack and Juliet knew about the Other's coming to the camp in a few days. 3. Both of them know something about Naomi. _______________ "Do or do not, there is no try" Jedi Master Yoda Dual Saberist |
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SaZ - Student
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Quote: Your second point seems odd anyway though, i could easily say 24 should have ended after its second series? Star Trek could have ended after the Original Series, Star Wars could have ended after the OT...
the main difference is that Lost doesnt have anything left to show. _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana This comment was edited by SaZ on May 05 2007 11:00pm. |
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Alex Dkana - Staff
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Quote: alot of my fav shows are ending soon, heroes, 24, house, i think i'll probably check this out again, finished season 1 and started season 2 but couldnt get in to it, might try again
Parts of series two can be slow, especially for a casual viewer (rather than a 'Lostie') however trust me, if you enjoyed series 1, the end of series 2 and most of series 3 are worth the wait. **Possible spoilers** Just saw 'The Brig'. I was really impressed with this episode, it finished Sawyers personal journey brilliantly and set the way for Locke's new journey perfectly. When the script writers are on form the episodes are just so well written its scary. Can't wait to see what Jack is up to either... I knew they shouldn't have told Kate about Naomi
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I was refering to the EU as well there Qin, if i remember correctly you are a bit of a fan, particularly of Mandalorians? No EU none of that. Personally i'm most glad Star Wars has continued on after the OT, its created a mythology that counts for a lot more than the original heroes journey that GL wrote about way back. In fact if Star Wars has ended back then, then the JA would not exist... _______________ To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield | Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken | Rhaiko D'kana - SWTOR EU Guild Co-Founder | Is it what the teacher, teaches? Or what the student learns? A Dkana |
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alot of my fav shows are ending soon, heroes, 24, house, i think i'll probably check this out again, finished season 1 and started season 2 but couldnt get in to it, might try again _______________ If you add me to MSN, tell me who you are
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NotSoLittleCaesar - Student 
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Quote: Star Wars could have ended after the OT... it should have
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Alex Dkana - Staff
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Quote: lost is so boring.
could have ended after 1st season. now its either repetitive or pointless, story going nowhere. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, dosn't make it fact. 
Your second point seems odd anyway though, i could easily say 24 should have ended after its second series? Star Trek could have ended after the Original Series, Star Wars could have ended after the OT... Quote: I got Season 1 on DVD this summer after my cousin reccomending it to me and I also got a hold of the 2nd Season. I am definetly enjoying these recent episodes of Lost. Finally getting somewhere! It took them a while, but now it seems we are getting somewhere ha.
I agree, in my opinion Lost's second series comes across as the worst primarily because it did a lot of setting up (of plots) and didn't give the audience enough back in the way of answers. I'm glad to see someone else agrees that after a bit of a slow start the show has really started delivering. To say its boring is to not understand the definition of boring really. Quote: I find it interesting that I started watching LOST during season 2
Thats certainly interesting  haha I can't imagine getting into it through the second series, its got such a convoluted plot.
In my experience shows like Lost always receive criticism for doing things differently, a bit like people in that respect. Of all the shows on tv right now it has the best chance of being considered the 'next twin peaks' in the future. _______________ To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield | Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken | Rhaiko D'kana - SWTOR EU Guild Co-Founder | Is it what the teacher, teaches? Or what the student learns? A Dkana |
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SaZ - Student
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Quote: So, do you people that say LOST sucks still watch it?
no i dont. well actually i do watch an episode once in a month... still boring. _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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LEO2033 - Student 
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I got Season 1 on DVD this summer after my cousin reccomending it to me and I also got a hold of the 2nd Season. I am definetly enjoying these recent episodes of Lost. Finally getting somewhere! It took them a while, but now it seems we are getting somewhere ha. _______________ Katan's Music Bruver
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R2D2 - Staff
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The story is definitely going somewhere.... They are LOST afterall, and want to get off the island. As for season 1, I find it interesting that I started watching LOST during season 2 .
So, do you people that say LOST sucks still watch it? _______________ "Do or do not, there is no try" Jedi Master Yoda Dual Saberist |
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SaZ - Student
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lost is so boring.
could have ended after 1st season. now its either repetitive or pointless, story going nowhere. _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana This comment was edited by SaZ on May 04 2007 11:51am. |
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NotSoLittleCaesar - Student
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the show has dragged onto pointless ends =P one minute they were beign chased bya polar bear - next thing i know they have a full bloody town with cars and plains, ;p got out of hand IMO _______________ Quote: I mostly agree oh Lord of the squeezy mop
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pfft jack hater! Actually i watched the first two series of 24 when they were first aired in my country and i enjoyed them very much. I even watched some of the supplementary programs that went with the series. I firmly believe Keither Sutherland did a great job with his portrayal of Bauer bringing to life one of the most interesting action heroes of recent times. However he is not a god and arguments to the contrary should not be placed in this thread as it is not what it is intended for, i'm surprised there isn't a thread devoted to his worship to be honest. Quote: Lost sucks
Care to back that statement up with some facts or opinions Qin? Quote: Yea, people, stay on topic. If you like other shows, then talk about them somewhere else
As for The Brig, I thought it was a good episode. You don't get anything about eyepatch man, but learn more about Naomi. John's story with the Others is interesting. Sounds good i've been wanting to find out what Locke has been upto with his new 'friends'. Yeah what Naomi said at the end of D.O.C about the plane was startling. Yeesh someone upload the episode already _______________ To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield | Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken | Rhaiko D'kana - SWTOR EU Guild Co-Founder | Is it what the teacher, teaches? Or what the student learns? A Dkana This comment was edited by Alex Dkana on May 03 2007 09:13pm. |
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NotSoLittleCaesar - Student
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lost sucks *flee* _______________ Quote: I mostly agree oh Lord of the squeezy mop
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