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Aeth S'kray - Retired  |
Oh my god... oh my god! I got the german magazine GameStar today, and guess what's in there? A worldexclusive report about JEDI KNIGHT 3! It's propably coming this fall! I havent read the whole article yet but I can tell you one thing: It's fantastic. You can create an own character for single player, means you can change race, gender, cloths (!), face.... everything! Looks like they're going to make three styles again: one handed saber, double bladed saber and two sabers. And, you will fight against a rancor. It's just... amazing.
I'll post again when I've read the whole article. WHOOT! Edit: I have a small link for you to proove it's no fake, the magazine cover: http://www.gamestar.de/images/magazin/popup-bilder/052003_b.jpg Edit2: I have some bigger pics for you. They show the article itself with some screens etc. www.8ung.at/ninja-sith/1_small.jpg www.8ung.at/ninja-sith/2_small.jpg www.8ung.at/ninja-sith/3_small.jpg www.8ung.at/ninja-sith/4_small.jpg www.8ung.at/ninja-sith/5_small.jpg www.8ung.at/ninja-sith/6_small.jpg www.8ung.at/ninja-sith/7_small.jpg _______________ Aeth S'kray *June 2002 +September 2003 This post was edited by Aeth S'kray on Mar 31 2003 11:21pm. |
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TiTo (inactive) - Student 
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Well, i've heard other places that it isnt coming untill' April 2004!!! But again, just rumors! _______________ Not back yet... I'll come one day, I hope... The madman formerly (and still) known as Tito! Coming to take back my title as "Most insane 'person' in the JA" It's the bizzi, wizza, jizzi, Wizzil, Bizon, wizzay, Wizzat, fizzil ¶°TiTo°¶ - All work and no play makes Tito burn the bacon!  - Officially cured from spamming!!!
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Buzz - Student 
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Yeah the Maps look great. You know if its a joke, and raven is in on it perhaps, it wouldn't be that hard. Also remember that the Maps for KOTOR and SWG are around. And I could have sworn that I saw an image of a character blocking blaster bolts or standing that way. I know the sabers are crossed that way in Jedi Mod when you jump. You see one magazine article doesn't make it real no matter how much you want it. I've never really heard of a game being almost complete after only a year in development. You need concept art, modeling. Map creation. Storyline. And if its going to be non linear story, that would take even more effort. And its almost done after a year? Its just not all that believable to me. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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TiTo (inactive) - Student
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But the maps looks good! But it looks (not the maps) a lot like JO!!! Anyway, isnt E3 in May? And maybe they'll anounce it before, _IF_ it's true! _______________ Not back yet... I'll come one day, I hope... The madman formerly (and still) known as Tito! Coming to take back my title as "Most insane 'person' in the JA" It's the bizzi, wizza, jizzi, Wizzil, Bizon, wizzay, Wizzat, fizzil ¶°TiTo°¶ - All work and no play makes Tito burn the bacon! - Officially cured from spamming!!!
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Buzz - Student
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They don't need to mod The main menu though tito. All you need to do is take a screenshot of the menu in photoshop and overlay some character creation bars. I really wish I knew of some Screen shots that show character creation for SWG. So they could be compared. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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TiTo (inactive) - Student
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Sorry for the long post
As much as you all think it's a joke, it probably isnt. I know they're up to something Lucasarts related at Raven, and this is probably it, unless someones gone to the trouble of editing the JK2 menu to a character customization setup screen... and I cant see that happening for just a joke. besides, the texture and mapping looks pretty good in these shots, and that double sabered block isnt in any of the mods which emulate double sabers... Besides, it can't be an April Fool's, since you can only do those ON April 1st, not before. And as i've said before; Why would one of europe's best selling PC mags risk its credibility for a dumb joke? _______________ Not back yet... I'll come one day, I hope... The madman formerly (and still) known as Tito! Coming to take back my title as "Most insane 'person' in the JA" It's the bizzi, wizza, jizzi, Wizzil, Bizon, wizzay, Wizzat, fizzil ¶°TiTo°¶ - All work and no play makes Tito burn the bacon! - Officially cured from spamming!!!
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This is the text from the German likes gamestar the situation seems offering no prospects!
Some words couldnt be translated :
Five dark Jedis surround us, which gezueckt weapons. But we only smile cold and activate our two laser swords. While we repel the attacks with very fast, we let the other one fly as from charm hand by the opponent rows. Only an adversary remaining - behind us! We get deeply air, run perpendicularly the wall highly, repel us and land with a Salto behind our astonished enemy. Invisible hands pack its throat, lift it over the close abyss and leave loose... This scene could originate smoothly from that episode 3-Drehbuch von George Lucas, describes however a typical game situation from Jedi Knight 3. The newest co-operation of LucasArts and Raven concentrates on spectacularly choreographierte light sword duels; boring standard shootings decrease for it in meaning. GameStar was locally in the Wisconsin/USA, as the long time secret Action Blockbuster was revealed Kyle as a veteran we to remind us: Our favourite light sword oscillator Kyle Katarn in Jedi Knight 2 its last large adventure experienced about eight years after the battle around Endor and the death of the Imperators (star Wars 6). Completely besides it won its lost believed Jedi forces back, entriss its friend January Ors the claws of the echsenkoepfigen upper rogue Desann and saved the universe from the imperial super weapon Doomgiver. The Story of Jedi Knight 3 begins some years later. Kyle closed finally its peace with power. Together with hatch Skywalker it informs the Padawan new generation in the Jedi academy on Yavin. The new adventure begins directly with a strong surprise. Kyle Katarn leaves for the first time in the Jedi Knight history the main role to another hero, instead you begin as its talented pupil. First your Jedi training stands on the time table, under the watchful eyes of hatch and Kyle. Smaller orders, until you finally uncover an enormous conspiracy, follow - as it could be different - the entire galaxy threatened. More do not want to betray Raven and LucasArts yet. However did Jedi Knight 3-Projektleiter Steve Raffel that we will experience surprising idioms in the planned 30 play hours of history nearly complete well-known star the Wars universe to visit and clearly more than already in Jedi Knight 2nd Jedi Modedesigner as see he out, promise us the new Jedi hero? You determine that completely alone! From a multiplicity of trousers, jackets, shoes and uniforms cutters it a topmodisches future knight costume. Now only a tasteful colour combination selected, and your hero (or dear heroine?) Wars gangway is ready for the star. Which Klamotten lies in the shelf, depends crucially on the origin of your Jedis. Raven confirmed two races with humans and Twi'Lek only. We count on three further and already look forward however at least to the first Wookie with rosa Zottelfell. Spielerisch do not differ the peoples however. Then the choice of the own laser sword follows. Both color and grasp Design may select you. First you tinker only a conventional a hand light sword. Who works however in the campaign, a double sword model may sketch later, how it uses also Darth muzzle in episode l. Prefer against it the combat style of Anakin Skywalker in episode 2, fuchteln you also equivalent two self-'s building blade around sword or Wumme the prettiest laser sword use few, if one cannot use it styleful. If Jedi Knight 2 was still primarily a Ego Shooter with occasional sword inserts, the successor concentrates on film-ripe close-in engagement duels with the Jedi Lieblingswaffe. One experiences presumably approximately 70 per cent of the play from the pursuer perspective with the sword in the hand. However you can change still at any time into the Ego opinion and let weapons such as Wookie Armbrust or storm troop rifle speak. Raven wants to even still develop the Wummen repertoire opposite the twelve knarren of the predecessor. Constant ammunition scarceness and clearly more Jedi enemies are to force you however nevertheless to the constant sword employment fights as presented in the cinema than Raven Boss Steve Raffel us the first laser sword duel, mutate our office chair smoothly to the cinema armchair; Close-in engagements of Jedi Knight 3 remind astonishing of that-spectacular duel between Obi Wan Kenobi, Qui qui-Gon Jinn and Darth muzzle in episode 1. Our hero strikes Salti or escapes from hostile attacks with a soil role. It lets swords circle its around itself and chokes at the same time an enemy by power grasp. Raven has the maneuver number increased by more than the double on the simple control is however for nothing to change. Defend functioned still automatically, and the program selects the suitable attack depending upon opponent position as for instance a surprising sword impact to the rear. However because of the three combat styles (in-handle, two-handedly, two swords) the duels will already play themselves very fastidiously. So owners of double sword can deactivate a side, in order to win at speed. Fighters with two a hand swords defend themselves with the weapon and let the other one toward opponents fly. Nice support at matrix: Jedi Knight 3 produces particularly spectacular actions styleful in slow motion. Mission liberty large innovation in your Jedi career: Instead of stubbornly mission for mission, decide you abzuspulen on your next destination. This nonlinear campaign of Jedi Knight 3 is a genuine new fact in the Actionspiel category. Nevertheless history is to run at least just as dramatically as in the predecessor. As functions, Raven keeps still secret. Steve Raffel nevertheless betrays so much: "you have missions, which advance the Story, and you have orders, her with lives fill." We assume that you will select from the Jedi school the next employment, either on a galaxy map or by discussions with masters and colleagues. Some tasks are key missions, which help the action. Others serve simply for the maintenance as well as the development your play figure. All orders have however one together: The club-hard puzzles from the second part land on the space cemetery. Jedi Knight 3 wants to concentrate primarily on Action. Times you look on Tatooine in Jawa Sandcrawlern for missed Droiden, times save you to civilians from a hungry Rancor. And afterwards you complete an employment at the side of hatch Skywalker, with which as only weapon your laser sword is available. Outside and interior scenes are to hold themselves approximately the balance. Additionally Raven plans crack-industrial union-short special missions, for instance the fight against a final opponent or a pure vehicle level. Power development who with the Imperium puts on itself, should not only well laser-fences, but also powerfully power to use. Therefore Raven wants to clearly develop the repertoire at Jedi forces. Many abilities, which there were with Jedi Knight 2 only in the Multiplayer mode, may use you now also in the solo adventure. "view" puts for instance a bright field around all opponents, so that you can recognize your enemies also by walls - practically for a maintained bogenwurf with the light sword. In addition power forces are to be able to be combined in the future: Who activates "jump" and "speed" at the same time, overcomes even the deepest abyss. Owing to improved AI itself however also your opponents of the risen power possibilities are fully conscious and even co-operate: While a Jedi carries you by grasp into air, dissipates other lightnings - like the Imperator in the final of star Wars 6. In part of 2 your power development was still firmly given, in Jedi Knight 3 decides you, which abilities learn you or in up to three stages to develop. Depending upon desire your hero flirts rather with the dark or the bright side of power - with dramatic effects on history. So the last missions for good and bad Jedis are to play themselves completely differently. Accordingly Raven plans equal two final sequences. Jawa hunt of the predecessors achieved one in the test accurately one year ago Ga-meStar for special atmosphere. It looks everything like the fact that Raven defends this honor. Because the levels shown spray an extra portion star Wars Flair already now. Sand people do not only hunt you in the desert of Tatooine, but also those everywhere herumwuselnden Jawas. The appearance of the dreadful Ran cor (see box P. 55) earns a play OSCAR already now. And in the tendencyful dark temple plants the surrenden laser swords produce an impressing Lightshow with goose skin warranty. Amazingly, which for power reserves Raven still from the Quake 3-Technik kit tent: More highly dissolved textures as well as an intensified use of Curved Surfaces and Specular Mapping almost get the distance to the unreal engine up. For the external worlds Raven uses developed terrain system from Soldier OF Fortune 2, which permits a clearly closer vegetation. Jedi tourism the levels of Jedi Knight 3 are multicolored star a Wars mixture made of film -, Comic and book scenes plus unite self-creations. Raven attaches thereby much importance on alternation: Instead of changing as in the predecessor only all three to four missions the location, you are in the third part in the case of nearly each order new objects of interest to admire. Beside the desert planets Tatooine as well as the usual outguard and temple plants will visit Jedi jedi-Krieger for the first time also the ice planet Hoth - scene of the enormous battle from the Imperium strikes back. The enormous levels of Jedi Knight 2 obtained a episches play feeling, nervten however also occasionally with unnecessary Latschereien and Logikschnitzern. Despite allegedly partly twice as large play worlds Raven wants to avoid these problems in the third part. On the one hand there is to be usually several ways to the goal, approximately with or without power employment. On the other hand you may use substantially more means of transport. Thus the ice deserts of Hoth on the back of the pelzigen riding animal lose Tauntaun already much from their fright. And on Tatooine you will surely be allowed to fly like the young hatch with the Speeder new Multiplayer modes to statement of Raven are Jedi Knight 3 to 60 per cent finished. The work on Story, script sequences and levels is so well finally, now concentrates the developers in Wisconsin primarily on opponent AI and mission Design. Raven with new play variants wants to develop the Multiplayer mode. We assume strongly that it will give among other things vehicle duels. Without a cooperative mode as in NO One Lives Forever 2 we must do however. Since LucasArts is awake extremely strictly over its newest baby, we were allowed to turn still no video. Look forward however to first moved pictures of the Action Blockbusters in the framework our detailed E3-Berichterstattung! _______________ Not back yet... I'll come one day, I hope... The madman formerly (and still) known as Tito! Coming to take back my title as "Most insane 'person' in the JA" It's the bizzi, wizza, jizzi, Wizzil, Bizon, wizzay, Wizzat, fizzil ¶°TiTo°¶ - All work and no play makes Tito burn the bacon! - Officially cured from spamming!!!
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Kalheka - Student 
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That girl on the cover of the magazine, the twi'lek with the 2 sabers. It looks an awful lot like a retouch of an Angelina Jolie picture for Tomb Raider guys. I wish I had the picture I'm thinking of for comparison. _______________ Death is only the beginning. |
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Xavier - Ex-Student 
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There is really less than a 5% chance this info is a hoax... _______________ [Left] |
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Buzz - Student 
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Aeth if the photos are fare larger. Scan them and e-mail me a couple I want to see them so I can see how phony they are.
Edit: JKii.net has some larger screens but they still aren't very conclusive to me. Scan those Pics of the character creation screen in a larger size than they have. Those are the ones I really want to take a good look at. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. This comment was edited by Buzz on Mar 31 2003 03:57pm. |
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Aeth S'kray - Retired 
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Buzz, the screens are far larger in the magazine, good quality and everything. They have interviews with the game designers + photos.
Oh, and Master Lew: They'd be so damn f*** if it was a hoax  As I said before it's not just any magazine, it's the biggest one in Germany+Austria. They have absolutely no reason to do a hoax and have had several exclusive articles before. They've visited the designers in Wisconsin if you really want to know.
I see I can't convince you but I find it very amuseing to see your mistrust against that poor German mag... but hey, I guess thats ok. Maybe you will like GameStar more when the game is announced officialy? 
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Xavier - Ex-Student 
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OMG OMG OMG
I read this earlier today, seems you found it too 
JK3 sounds and looks bloody amazing! YOUR OWN CHAR IN SP!!! MAUL SABER AND TWO SABER COMBAT WITH PROPER STANCES!! RANCORS!!! NEW MP!!! OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG!!!!!!  *faints* _______________ [Left] |
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Trad Redav - Student 
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they are much bigger, i saw a scanned picture of the entire article somewhere, in proportion to the text they are big, but when scanning in, it's hard to get life-sized stuff _______________ Well then. Just so you know, just because I don't post often doesn't mean I don't lurk this place multiple times every day... This comment was edited by Trad Redav on Mar 30 2003 10:06pm. |
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Buzz - Student
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You know Aeth, if you want go ahead and scan these supposed screenshots out of the magazine, make sure they are bigger than the ones that have been posted there though. But if they are that small, then I doubt it even more. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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Trad Redav - Student
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if raven is in on this...then... i'll kill them all..... them all i say!!!!!!
dieeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 sorry :\ i'll probably never buy any of their things aain to try to make them go out of buisness _______________ Well then. Just so you know, just because I don't post often doesn't mean I don't lurk this place multiple times every day... |
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Buzz - Student
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and what if raven is in on this hoax? _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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Trad Redav - Student
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didn't they quote raven or something? or mayeb falsly quote? if they falsely quoted, isn't that...like... something? _______________ Well then. Just so you know, just because I don't post often doesn't mean I don't lurk this place multiple times every day... |
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TiTo (inactive) - Student
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I would sue them for being jack-asses!!! _______________ Not back yet... I'll come one day, I hope... The madman formerly (and still) known as Tito! Coming to take back my title as "Most insane 'person' in the JA" It's the bizzi, wizza, jizzi, Wizzil, Bizon, wizzay, Wizzat, fizzil ¶°TiTo°¶ - All work and no play makes Tito burn the bacon! - Officially cured from spamming!!!
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Master Lew - Student 
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There would be no law suit. No one has been slandered. No money has changed hands to buy the alleged game, therefore no fraud has been committed. _______________ Brick Assassin for Hire Here, have a brick!
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Sniya - Student 
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that was me _______________ The real question is not whether machines think but whether men do. Bertrand Russell http://www.thejediacademy.net/forums_detail_page.php?f_id=970 |
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TiTo (inactive) - Student
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Well, honestly i'm really sceptic about this too, but i try not to listen to the voices in my head! But I imagine how many law suits GameStar could face _IF_ this turns out to be an "april fools" gag! _______________ Not back yet... I'll come one day, I hope... The madman formerly (and still) known as Tito! Coming to take back my title as "Most insane 'person' in the JA" It's the bizzi, wizza, jizzi, Wizzil, Bizon, wizzay, Wizzat, fizzil ¶°TiTo°¶ - All work and no play makes Tito burn the bacon! - Officially cured from spamming!!!
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Buzz - Student
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Here's the problem with it being "official" The only thing they're posting is from the same gamestar you've been reading. There is no other source for this. What else I find really strange is that if you look at this supposed character creation screens. That could be easily faked. Don't forget guys there is JK2, KOTOR and SWG. You could combine and mix things to create this. If you look at those shots, the selections are exactly those in JK2, except for that next button. Even the heading above that is looks an awful lot like the player configuration line in MP. It would be cool if it were true but I don't buy it. And if you want to know why anyone would play such a cruel joke. Don't forget that we had someone here announce JK3 as a joke. Don't you think someone else might have taken it a step further and doctored photos. My big point about SWG and KOTOR is that the release dates on PC were going to be spaced farther apart so as not to overwhelm people with star wars games. Now that was just with 2 games can you imagine 3? Besides Raven wouldn't get to anounce a release of this game. Lucasarts would.
Edit: Don't mistake skepticism for paranoia Aeth. When there is only one source for information from a magazine I've never even heard of till you posted this I've got a right to be skeptical. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. This comment was edited by Buzz on Mar 30 2003 05:44pm. |
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Aeth S'kray - Retired
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Guess it's official now. Just check jeddiknightii.net (yes they've actually posted some news , lol) _______________ Aeth S'kray *June 2002 +September 2003 |
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Sniya - Student
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::Sniya walks out of house in black ninja gear and a grappling hook on his back::
Arth d' say:Sniya your not gonna break into raven [looking embarised]n..oooo _______________ The real question is not whether machines think but whether men do. Bertrand Russell http://www.thejediacademy.net/forums_detail_page.php?f_id=970 |
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Aeth S'kray - Retired
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Damn arcuss, those were exactly the pics I wanted to post Oh well, guess it saved me some scanning.
Buzz: How paranoid can you become? Can't believe LucasArts likes Germans better than you? Hehe, just kidding. See, when they say it is worldexclusive, they provide a special link with a website ( http://www.gamestar.de/reklawyks/secret-jk3/ ) and have interviews with developers... they've convinced me. Why the hell should they fake something like taht and imagine so much details plus giving it a titel story? It would be a scandal for them.
Regarding the time: SWG and KOTR have much more content. A massive multiplayer game is very hard to programm and an RPG is very detailed aswell (Baldurs Gate 1 took over 3 years). JK3 on the other hand is quite simple to do. Still quake 3 engine, lots of the JK2 structure can be used again. But I guess it's your decesion... you can wait for the official release when you want, but I start looking forward to it right now
Here are the direct links to the pics: http://hekx.cjb.net/jk3/Jedi1.jpg http://hekx.cjb.net/jk3/Jedi2.jpg http://hekx.cjb.net/jk3/Jedi3.jpg http://hekx.cjb.net/jk3/Jedi4.jpg http://hekx.cjb.net/jk3/Jedi5.jpg http://hekx.cjb.net/jk3/Jedi6.jpg http://hekx.cjb.net/jk3/Jedi7.jpg http://hekx.cjb.net/jk3/Jedi8.jpg http://hekx.cjb.net/jk3/Jedi9.jpg http://hekx.cjb.net/jk3/Jedi10.jpg http://hekx.cjb.net/jk3/Jedi11.jpg http://hekx.cjb.net/jk3/Jedi12.jpg http://hekx.cjb.net/jk3/Jedi13.jpg http://hekx.cjb.net/jk3/Jedi14.jpg http://hekx.cjb.net/jk3/Jedi15.jpg http://hekx.cjb.net/jk3/Jedi16.jpg http://hekx.cjb.net/jk3/Jedi17.jpg http://hekx.cjb.net/jk3/Jedi18.jpg _______________ Aeth S'kray *June 2002 +September 2003 This comment was edited by Aeth S'kray on Mar 30 2003 03:01pm. |
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Sniya - Student
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::dont cry Sniya just dont cry:: _______________ The real question is not whether machines think but whether men do. Bertrand Russell http://www.thejediacademy.net/forums_detail_page.php?f_id=970 |
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