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Silencio - Student  |
What will you use? I think I'm gonna go with two... not sure, though.. _______________ Second-in-command of the mighty FiZZsters |
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Jake Kainite - Student 
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not super drain, but lets narrow this down shall we, since you brought the subject back  Ok, all the powers are pretty much equal, they all have an opposite, all dark powers are countered by absorb, I accept this. Protect does the same kinda thing, mind trick is countered by seeing, throw pull is countered because both people can use it. In the end it comes down to who can heal faster and more efficiently, thus allowing them to stay alive.
You can't honestly tell me that you think heal is more efficient than drain !! Thats basically all it is, just drain. That an the phyological advantage of having force powers which do damage as well as your saber and kick, as opposed to a lightsider you only has saber and kick to do damage with. If a lightsider understands this though, and is skilled then they are pretty even. But as soon as you throw drain into the mix, its all over, the lighty is going out in a body bag. _______________ Apprenctice of Jedi Master Ascari (deceased) Descended from a line of great Jedi Will argue any point of view from any side
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SilkMonkey - Distributor of Cold Ones 
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Your heart is centered. I'm not left handed so I dont really care either way. _______________ |-HK-47 -SilkMonkey: You are receiving a warning for being_too_sexy. If you do not stop, action will be taken against you.|| (11:13:43) � Virtue dances for Silk ||Smiling owner of Smilykrazy's 6000th comment =) ||Odan Wei's Proud Big Brother|| Janus is my official TaruTaru Cuddly Animal Type Person. ||(@Virtue) Or you could just be a man and set fire to your genitals.....you won't fall asleep for days after that.......trust me.||Thomas Skywalker er for sexy for sitt eget beste!!!!| Not changing sig until the JA loosens up. (Started: Aug 31, 2005) |
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Sniya - Student 
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back to the force thing.if thier is a fight bettween a medium dark and an advanced light of course the light will win.Hes a better player.Same if the role was reversed.The better player will be more inventive.
Mabey if you put two non-gamers who had not heard of jk2/jk3 then the dark would mabey win.As drain and lightning are just guns with special effects(not to say theyre not cool).And everyone knows basic stratigies for guns.So the lightsider would be about 30 minutes behind becus you need to get a feel for light before you start developing stratigies.Which can destroy a darksider if used right.In the end it comes down to skill no side is better just different. BTW wot is this super drain u got in ur theory. oh an buzz bout the left handers (of which im one) they probably wont do this as Knights etc never used the left hand for fighting this was mainly due to the fact it was easier to hit the heart hich is on the left side of the body.This mainly and a couple of other reasons is why there isnt a more balanced left handers to righthanders. scince the underliying theory of jedi is that theyre knights raven probably wont want to add it.Anyway left to right handed saber fights dont look exactly right. _______________ The real question is not whether machines think but whether men do. Bertrand Russell http://www.thejediacademy.net/forums_detail_page.php?f_id=970 This comment was edited by Sniya on Apr 04 2003 07:47pm. |
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TiTo (inactive) - Student 
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Then i say that the single saber should have an advantage if the other two saber types can go single-saber... Say that the single saber can extend in two different lenghts: ie.
1: Half lenght = For twice as quick attacks, with less damage from a short range! 2: Double lenght (or maybe 1.5 lenght) = For slower attacks with more damage from a long range! 3: Normal lenght = Duuuuuuh..... _______________ Not back yet... I'll come one day, I hope... The madman formerly (and still) known as Tito! Coming to take back my title as "Most insane 'person' in the JA" It's the bizzi, wizza, jizzi, Wizzil, Bizon, wizzay, Wizzat, fizzil ¶°TiTo°¶ - All work and no play makes Tito burn the bacon!  - Officially cured from spamming!!!
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Buzz - Student 
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Well you know if they make the Double saber have a single blade option then having two sabers could also have a single blade use option. I think it would be interesting if you could choose whether your character is right or left handed. Give all those south paws out there more connection to their charaters _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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Vaughn - Student 
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oh, with the two single sabers, duct tape them together to make the double bladed saber! (bad joke, sorry) _______________ When you become an actor, you become the person, and you dont act anymore. You just are. - Tyler HP, Taught by Mr G Simpson |
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TiTo (inactive) - Student 
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I've heard some talk about the Doubleblade being switchable, but i havn't heard the results... How about if the single saber was a dualmode-saber (different lenghts)??? _______________ Not back yet... I'll come one day, I hope... The madman formerly (and still) known as Tito! Coming to take back my title as "Most insane 'person' in the JA" It's the bizzi, wizza, jizzi, Wizzil, Bizon, wizzay, Wizzat, fizzil ¶°TiTo°¶ - All work and no play makes Tito burn the bacon! - Officially cured from spamming!!!
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Jake Kainite - Student 
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that would makes sense, is easy to do, and I'm sure they've thought about it. The other option being that dual lightsabers being connected together to make the double bladed, doubt that'd happen though, just an idea. _______________ Apprenctice of Jedi Master Ascari (deceased) Descended from a line of great Jedi Will argue any point of view from any side
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Silencio - Student 
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New plan! what if youre able to use the double bladed single bladed as well? You know, like Darth Maul does in the first fight. If that is possible, then you'd have easy access to both styles... Guess I will be using the double/single bladed then... (IF it's possible) _______________ Second-in-command of the mighty FiZZsters |
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Vaughn - Student
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im learning how to use a shinai (well, teaching myself), and i know how to use a Jo/Bo (staves). So... it makes no difference _______________ When you become an actor, you become the person, and you dont act anymore. You just are. - Tyler HP, Taught by Mr G Simpson |
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SilkMonkey - Distributor of Cold Ones 
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Hmmm....I know how to fight for real with both a staff and a sword.
So one saber, one or two blades. _______________ |-HK-47 -SilkMonkey: You are receiving a warning for being_too_sexy. If you do not stop, action will be taken against you.|| (11:13:43) � Virtue dances for Silk ||Smiling owner of Smilykrazy's 6000th comment =) ||Odan Wei's Proud Big Brother|| Janus is my official TaruTaru Cuddly Animal Type Person. ||(@Virtue) Or you could just be a man and set fire to your genitals.....you won't fall asleep for days after that.......trust me.||Thomas Skywalker er for sexy for sitt eget beste!!!!| Not changing sig until the JA loosens up. (Started: Aug 31, 2005) |
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Vaughn - Student
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im probably going to have 2, but use 1 if i can _______________ When you become an actor, you become the person, and you dont act anymore. You just are. - Tyler HP, Taught by Mr G Simpson |
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Fonz - Student 
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I can't cope with a single saber yet let alone getting into two sabers etc.  - obviously i'll try everything and make a decision on what i prefer when i have tried them all; at the moment i think that getting to grips with using one saber is hard enough but who knows  _______________ Support bacteria, they're the only culture some people have. |
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Buzz - Student 
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No I'm not assuming anything. Of course its going to have its drawbacks. They aren't going to make it an all powerful superweapon like it pretty much is now in MP. But that's not going to stop some people from complaining about those that will wipe the floor with it. Using Strong stance has its drawbacks. Your swings are slow. And there are still those that complain if you always use red and continue to beat them. I'm not talking about here at the academy. I'm talking about everywhere online. I'm not saying its going to be the norm. Just saying that people complaining are a distinct possiblity _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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Jake Kainite - Student
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You're assuming that the double saber will be all advantages, I'd be surprised if it were. Each set will have its own benefits and drawbacks, I'm almost possitive. _______________ Apprenctice of Jedi Master Ascari (deceased) Descended from a line of great Jedi Will argue any point of view from any side
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Buzz - Student
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Well rounded and brilliant game yes. Well rounded and brilliant players? That's my point. You have a single saber user always losing to a double saber loser its not going to be because the single saber user sucks, it will be because the double saber user is a lamer whore loser not a real player. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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Jake Kainite - Student
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Its certainly a possibility, but I would've though that because its such a large part and eagerly anticipated part of the game, they will wanna test it thouraghly and be a bit careful. That goes hand in hand with what they've learned from the JKII patch fiasco. I'm sure whatever they release will be a fine and well rounded, brilliant game. _______________ Apprenctice of Jedi Master Ascari (deceased) Descended from a line of great Jedi Will argue any point of view from any side
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Buzz - Student
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Jake I didn't want another start of an argument. Those are just examples of what might happen with Jedi Academy. Its a matter of what people are going to need an excuse to complain about. There are people that use darkside that disable lightning on servers because they consider it to be lame. Some people disable an entire side of the Force because they don't want to fight people that use it or because they're "Jedi" and since its their game they won't allow darkside powers. My point is that you could probably see more of this only it won't be drain whore or lightning lamer or "Can't you fight with anything besides red stance". "Its going to be Double sabers are so lame". _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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Jake Kainite - Student
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Ok so you've thrown your saber, he drains back any health you took off in 2 seconds, you've used up loads of force due to the throw and the drain, what now ? As for mindtrick, even if you don't have seeing, either use push or pull or just keep moving so they either can't catch you or reveal themselves.
(wow this is like turn based dueling ) _______________ Apprenctice of Jedi Master Ascari (deceased) Descended from a line of great Jedi Will argue any point of view from any side
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TiTo (inactive) - Student
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Use Mindtrick on the poor bastard... If he has Seeing, then throw u'r saber at him when he drains... _______________ Not back yet... I'll come one day, I hope... The madman formerly (and still) known as Tito! Coming to take back my title as "Most insane 'person' in the JA" It's the bizzi, wizza, jizzi, Wizzil, Bizon, wizzay, Wizzat, fizzil ¶°TiTo°¶ - All work and no play makes Tito burn the bacon! - Officially cured from spamming!!!
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Jake Kainite - Student
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Hmmm, I'd like to see how you got to this conclusion. A skilled lighty against a medium darkie will most likely win, but thats a skill thing. I'm talking 2 equal players, one dark, one light, dark comes out on top every time. And what would protect do to drain anyway ? Drain does no damage. _______________ Apprenctice of Jedi Master Ascari (deceased) Descended from a line of great Jedi Will argue any point of view from any side
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TiTo (inactive) - Student
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Maybe they DID make Dark more powerfull... Dark Side is also the easiest and most offensive... Most started with Dark and some moved on... Remember, the Dark path is the fast and aggresive one, but if u take the time to TRULY master one side, Light is better in every way(this goes for REALLY DEEP ADVANCED USERS ONLY)! _______________ Not back yet... I'll come one day, I hope... The madman formerly (and still) known as Tito! Coming to take back my title as "Most insane 'person' in the JA" It's the bizzi, wizza, jizzi, Wizzil, Bizon, wizzay, Wizzat, fizzil ¶°TiTo°¶ - All work and no play makes Tito burn the bacon! - Officially cured from spamming!!!
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Sniya - Student
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yes protect.if a jedi eg me can anticipate an aponents use of drain which is quite easy he can easly deny him of force.But i do admit i find heal hard to use ever scince the patch.Dark is easyier to jump into though _______________ The real question is not whether machines think but whether men do. Bertrand Russell http://www.thejediacademy.net/forums_detail_page.php?f_id=970 |
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Jake Kainite - Student
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In all gametypes both sides have equal advantages and disadvantages. Not so in full force duel though. Darkside has drain which can be used with only 3 bars of force as opposed to lightside heal which requires half a force pool. This single factor allows a darksider to continuosly heal throughout the match, whilst starving the lightsider of force.
Don't say absorb, as a darksider can just avoid, and then drain when its off, denying them the ability to heal. Think about it yeah, its common sense, these are the facts. Anyway, stop getting me off topic get back to JKIII. _______________ Apprenctice of Jedi Master Ascari (deceased) Descended from a line of great Jedi Will argue any point of view from any side
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Sniya - Student
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what are u on about jake.
even you got to admit light is better for ffa _______________ The real question is not whether machines think but whether men do. Bertrand Russell http://www.thejediacademy.net/forums_detail_page.php?f_id=970 |
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