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CuZzA - Student  |
NBC has just recieved a package from The V-Tech mass murderer (Cho Seung-Hui). The package was believed to have been sent during the 2 and a half hour time gap between the first 2 killings and the other 30+.
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SaZ - Student 
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Quote: Well because it would be awesome, that's one reason, haha. I would assume he was joking, but I'm going to try and explain it anyway. Well, if everyone could carry swords, and there were not guns (i'm not sure if that's a criteria in this fantasy world), then it would be much harder to kill 31 people, because it's not a long range weapon. You might get one person, down, but then you'd be gang beaten by a group of sword wielding college students. lol.
yeah thats pretty much what i meant... well in the end if i could blame something then i would blame technological progress and humans themselves. but on the other hand humans do not change much. in middle ages if there was 'sword free area' incident with guy wielding a sword would be quite likely possible. as this problem of humans being idiots one way or another is so general and unchangable, i think there is no one you can blame really. not even that retard, unless his state of mind wasnt anything close to that of normal a normal human. _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana This comment was edited by SaZ on Apr 24 2007 07:30pm. |
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Menaxia - Student 
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an explosive device wouldn't have been his method of choice. He wanted to make it personal.
But yr bottom dollar he would have used a knife. _______________ This is not the place to look for me |
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El Vee For - Student 
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Guns don't kill people, people kill people.
If someone gets killed by a drunk driver I don't hear anyone trying to ban cars or alcohol for that matter. Cho would have killed in anyway he could, thank god he didn't know a damn thing about explosives or this body count could have tripled with ease. _______________ “Arguing on the internet is like competing in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you’re still retarded.” |
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House - Student 
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Well because it would be awesome, that's one reason, haha. I would assume he was joking, but I'm going to try and explain it anyway. Well, if everyone could carry swords, and there were not guns (i'm not sure if that's a criteria in this fantasy world), then it would be much harder to kill 31 people, because it's not a long range weapon. You might get one person, down, but then you'd be gang beaten by a group of sword wielding college students. lol. |
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Buzz - Student 
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Quote: i say everyone must carry a sword from now on.
just like in middle ages >.> For what reason. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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Buzz - Student 
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Quote: Guns should be banned. It would definitely reduce the number of guns in possession by people such as Cho Seung-Hui simply out of fear of being arrested.
Do you realize what you just said? You are saying that by making guns illegal it will keep them out of the hands of people already intent on committing an illegal act, because if they have a gun they might get arrested. THEY ALREADY AREN'T AFRAID OF GOING TO JAIL. If the threat of going to jail for committing robbery or murder isn't enough to stop them from doing that then adding on that the tool they use to commit the crime is also illegal won't do a damn thing to stop them. And guns are already banned at VT. Yeah that fear of being arrested really put stop to bringing guns on campus didn't it? Making guns illegal just keeps them out of the hands of law abiding citizens like this: http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070420/NEWS01/704200369 _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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Ventrel - Student 
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Guns should be banned. It would definitely reduce the number of guns in possession by people such as Cho Seung-Hui simply out of fear of being arrested. |
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planK - Jedi Council 
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I'd bring a LONGER sword omg! |
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Menaxia - Student 
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That's what those red lines are for on the floor of the House of Comons. Keeps them all just over a sword's length apart. _______________ This is not the place to look for me |
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SaZ - Student 
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i say everyone must carry a sword from now on.
just like in middle ages >.> _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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Raziel Anjelis - Student 
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To be honest, like it or not, the human race (or part of it) seems so reliant on firearms that guns are here whether we like it or nay. _______________ Proud owner of El Vee For's 200th Comment, and Wicek's 2600th comment  DaMi3N's 400th, Trad Redav's 666th.
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CuZzA - Student 
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It's a perfect example of Catch 22 _______________ - Even if Carlsberg made "w*nkers", Christiano Ronaldo would still be the biggest "w*nker" in the world |
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DarthMike - Student 
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Quote: Guns arent' a good choice for self-defence since they can easily kill the opponent. I'd suggest pepper spray or similar. Guns kill, and thou shall not kill. So what's really the point with them? Raising your frail egos? Right. Some psycho barges in, guns blazing. The situation looks dire. But not to fear, I brought my can of pepper spray. We're safe. Killing is sometimes the only way to prevent more killing. If someone wants to kill you, they can do it. There are things all around us that kill just as good as guns. You can't stop a killer by depriving him of supplies. The only way to stop a killer is to kill him. So why not have tools(guns) that are designed specifically for that? _______________ "You can't get Windows on a Mac because the drivers are not compatible." --- Some dude from the Geek Squad "So if you have quad-core, you have four times the RAM, right?" --- Some guy at Best Buy This comment was edited by DarthMike on Apr 23 2007 10:16pm. |
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planK - Jedi Council
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Everybody LOVES IT <3 |
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Menaxia - Student
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trust you  _______________ This is not the place to look for me |
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planK - Jedi Council
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It's hawt in heeeere!
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Raziel Anjelis - Student
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Discussion time.
*Pulls out the popcorn and watches the temperature soar to the high 80s* _______________ Proud owner of El Vee For's 200th Comment, and Wicek's 2600th comment DaMi3N's 400th, Trad Redav's 666th.
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Everon - Student - The winner!!! 
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Quote: Yawn...
A very good contribution to the discussion. - Zeke. |
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Kenwan Obiobi - Student |
Yawn... |
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planK - Jedi Council
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A gun is a tool that causes death ---> Therefore it is unnecessary in a civilized society ---> Therefore it should not be available for purchase, as there is no need for it. ---> Therefore the offender would not have been able to buy it. ---> Therefore, 32 lives might have been spared. ---> Therefore if we cover the entire U.S ---> At least 10 000 prevented deaths.
Of course, having the ability to take someone else's life is quite satisfying isn't it, cowboys? Living in a fantasy world is so nice, isn't it? Ok guns are bad they should be banned so that no one can buy them. Here's what you do. Stop all gun manufacturers. Then have China, North Korea, all Southeast asian nations disarm. Have India and Pakistan disarm. Have the African Continent Disarm. Have every muslim middle east country disarm. Get South America to disarm. Get Europe to disarm. Get Canada to disarm. Get Mexico to disarm. And by disarm I mean the elimination of all firearms in every facet. Then have the US and Israel disarm. That is what you would need to do to make guns unavailable for purchase. Nothing else will work to disarm the population. To do it any other way is a fantasy. The idea that making guns illegal in the US is a joke. You know since drugs are illegal, and crossing the border from mexico is illegal. Both of those cases are such good indication that criminals wouldn't be able to get guns. Oh yeah you'll also need to make most metal working equipment illegal as well, since an individual with the proper tools can make a gun. And bullets too. The recipe for gun powder can be found in many places. You could say that these would be crude instruments but if that's all that available there would be a market in the criminal black market for it if that was available. And since you don't have a gun because you chose to follow the law they would have the advantage. And you can't have the military or cops have guns, because that would just take a few corrupt individuals in the manufacturing or in those organizations to start funneling weapons to the black market. If everyone were civil in a civilized society you would be right that guns wouldn't be needed. However if everyone were civil in a civilized society you wouldn't have to lock the door to your car or your home, ever. Gonna have to agree with our resident SGT Barnes here.
Hey, i'd be very happy if taking guns off of civilians was actually feasable. Unfortunately, it really isn't. Guns are very illegal in the UK, except in very rare cases, and people are still managing to get their hands on them. People have even been shot up here, which is incredibly rare. The problem is that even if firearms were illegal, people could still make them, like Buzz said. I heard that a popular way of this happening down in London is people are converting gas-powered BB guns to fire live rounds, which is a scary thought considering how such weapons can be purchased legally via mail order or the internet with very few questions asked, if any at all. I suppose guns aren't really the issue; it's the fact that there are alot of complete morons out there that can get their hands on them. In an ideal world, nobody would need a gun. Unfortunately, that's not the case.  This comment was edited by planK on Apr 22 2007 08:15am. |
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Buzz - Student
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Quote: In a pro-gun environment where everyone is able to carry weapons, I'd have to constantly look over my shoulder in fear of my own safety. It could come from anywhere, all it takes is point it and pull and then I'd be dead. It doesn't have to be a psycho, it could be a drunk, someone who doesn't agree with my ethnical background, a mistake resulting in one of the many guns around going off. I don't want to constantly be on my guard when going to town, but I would nevertheless be if anyone could be armed at anytime.
People get afraid when there are weapons nearby that could end their lives in an instant and isn't that just basic human psychology. Guns arent' a good choice for self-defence since they can easily kill the opponent. I'd suggest pepper spray or similar. Guns kill, and thou shall not kill. So what's really the point with them? Raising your frail egos? I feel sorry for you that you are so afraid of your fellow man. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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Buzz - Student
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Quote: A gun is a tool that causes death ---> Therefore it is unnecessary in a civilized society ---> Therefore it should not be available for purchase, as there is no need for it. ---> Therefore the offender would not have been able to buy it. ---> Therefore, 32 lives might have been spared. ---> Therefore if we cover the entire U.S ---> At least 10 000 prevented deaths.
Of course, having the ability to take someone else's life is quite satisfying isn't it, cowboys? Living in a fantasy world is so nice, isn't it? Ok guns are bad they should be banned so that no one can buy them. Here's what you do. Stop all gun manufacturers. Then have China, North Korea, all Southeast asian nations disarm. Have India and Pakistan disarm. Have the African Continent Disarm. Have every muslim middle east country disarm. Get South America to disarm. Get Europe to disarm. Get Canada to disarm. Get Mexico to disarm. And by disarm I mean the elimination of all firearms in every facet. Then have the US and Israel disarm. That is what you would need to do to make guns unavailable for purchase. Nothing else will work to disarm the population. To do it any other way is a fantasy. The idea that making guns illegal in the US is a joke. You know since drugs are illegal, and crossing the border from mexico is illegal. Both of those cases are such good indication that criminals wouldn't be able to get guns. Oh yeah you'll also need to make most metal working equipment illegal as well, since an individual with the proper tools can make a gun. And bullets too. The recipe for gun powder can be found in many places. You could say that these would be crude instruments but if that's all that available there would be a market in the criminal black market for it if that was available. And since you don't have a gun because you chose to follow the law they would have the advantage. And you can't have the military or cops have guns, because that would just take a few corrupt individuals in the manufacturing or in those organizations to start funneling weapons to the black market. If everyone were civil in a civilized society you would be right that guns wouldn't be needed. However if everyone were civil in a civilized society you wouldn't have to lock the door to your car or your home, ever. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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Steinin - Student 
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A gun is a tool that causes death ---> Therefore it is unnecessary in a civilized society ---> Therefore it should not be available for purchase, as there is no need for it. ---> Therefore the offender would not have been able to buy it. ---> Therefore, 32 lives might have been spared. ---> Therefore if we cover the entire U.S ---> At least 10 000 prevented deaths.
In a pro-gun environment where everyone is able to carry weapons, I'd have to constantly look over my shoulder in fear of my own safety. It could come from anywhere, all it takes is point it and pull and then I'd be dead. It doesn't have to be a psycho, it could be a drunk, someone who doesn't agree with my ethnical background, a mistake resulting in one of the many guns around going off. I don't want to constantly be on my guard when going to town, but I would nevertheless be if anyone could be armed at anytime. People get afraid when there are weapons nearby that could end their lives in an instant and isn't that just basic human psychology. Guns arent' a good choice for self-defence since they can easily kill the opponent. I'd suggest pepper spray or similar. Guns kill, and thou shall not kill. So what's really the point with them? Raising your frail egos? _______________ 362 Ohi on! This comment was edited by Steinin on Apr 22 2007 03:25am. |
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Buzz - Student
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It is stupid to blame the tool for the act of the user. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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planK - Jedi Council 
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I don't necessarily believe in this quote but one of my AAO buddies posted it on a forum and it made me lawl.
Quote: If guns kill people, then....
-Pencils miss spel words. -Cars make people drive drunk. -Spoons made Rosie O'Donnell fat. |
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