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NBC has just recieved a package from The V-Tech mass murderer (Cho Seung-Hui). The package was believed to have been sent during the 2 and a half hour time gap between the first 2 killings and the other 30+.
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Ash - Eats Babies 
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So I just found out that one of the victims went to my rival highschool. And she also was a member of a church I used to frequent. Honestly I don't know how to feel about it. I didn't know her and yet the news hit me pretty hard.
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House - Student 
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Well he did purchase his gun legally, and I like how this has turned into a debate on gun control, haha. I would say that the 2nd amendment is there for a reason, and people deserve to be able to defend themselves.
I hadn't heard that he had been committed to an asylum, but assuming that's true, I don't care. I still blame him entirely, especially after watching the video he sent to NBC. To me it just seems his truly an evil person. I wish he hadn't killed himself so he could be punished for his crimes. I think the country will be better when we can just get past this. We'll go through our state of mourning, and move on. I just hope the media doesn't try and keep the story alive as logn as they did the Don Imis thing or the Anna Nicole Smith thing. The families of the victims need to start their own grieving process, and all of this in the news certainly won't help. |
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Buzz - Student 
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And wearing a seatbelt doesn't guarrantee you will survive a car accident either but you should still wear one. If given the choice between certain death and a chance at fighting for survival, I would choose to fight. I could still die, but I might live, and that is orders of magnitude better than definitely dying. And that choice should be in my hands, not in the hands of people who think the illusion of security at the sacrifice of liberty is the same as security. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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Monteeeeeee - Nugget 
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My comment wasn't in regards to ROTC; US Army officers, including ROTC cadets, are generally very well trained. My point is, a Delta Operator could have been at the college and still been killed if he didn't suspect what was going on, even if he had a firearm of some sort.
And that idea is blown out the window once the first gun shot is heard, and it wasn't at another person with a gun. And if having firearms were legal this psycho would have had no idea if anyone else had a gun or if no one had a gun. Because its gun free he was pretty much guarranteed that everyone wouldn't be armed. One more gun would have made this a very different story. Aiming the gun and pulling the trigger is 2 different things, if someone else did have a gun it might well not of ended differently, it could of granted but dont assume it would of on the assumption that they are a brilliant shot just because they own a gun. Its no one's fault, people just go nuts everynow and then, attempting to blame movies and such is just pathetic really. ( I heard they was blaming Old boy, A south korean violent movie ) My heart goes out to all the people affected by this event. _______________ If you add me to MSN, tell me who you are 
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Buzz - Student
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Quote: My comment wasn't in regards to ROTC; US Army officers, including ROTC cadets, are generally very well trained. My point is, a Delta Operator could have been at the college and still been killed if he didn't suspect what was going on, even if he had a firearm of some sort.
And that idea is blown out the window once the first gun shot is heard, and it wasn't at another person with a gun. And if having firearms were legal this psycho would have had no idea if anyone else had a gun or if no one had a gun. Because its gun free he was pretty much guarranteed that everyone wouldn't be armed. One more gun would have made this a very different story. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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planK - Jedi Council 
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My comment wasn't in regards to ROTC; US Army officers, including ROTC cadets, are generally very well trained. My point is, a Delta Operator could have been at the college and still been killed if he didn't suspect what was going on, even if he had a firearm of some sort. |
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Buzz - Student
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Mike's comments are too stupid to respond to.
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One of the teachers killed was former military. At least one of the students was in the ROTC program. If either of these people had been able to carry a firearm then this tragedy would have been much smaller or may have never happened.
I don't think pouring weaponry into a university is a good idea. even in the aftermath of this tragedy. It would only make weapons more readily available to another loon who might try to commit a copycat killing. I mean, ROTC students are still students. If they leave a gun unattended, it's pretty easy for a potential killer to grab it. Also, while mentally ill people aren't readily given guns, this guy had never been to psychiatric sessions, nor had he ever been committed to an asylum, so it's possible that he bought the weapons legitimately, as his record wouldn't have shown anything amiss in his records. The guy wasn't exactly dressed discreetly either. And security personnel had two hours to apprehend him between the shootings. It's really unfortunate that they didn't do so. As mena said he was sent to a mental facility. He had a judge rule on him being a danger to himself and others. The judge checked only a danger to himself. If the school had reported these things to the proper authorities so they showed up on a background check he likely wouldn't have been able to purchase a firearm. And I really do love how when people hear about allowing people to have guns, it conjures up images of everyone running around with guns blazing. And ROTC students are adults who are undergoing military training while at school. They are learning how to use fire arms. And most people who would get a gun aren't going to just leave it sitting around. Believe it or not law abiding gun owners tend to be responsible individuals. The police had two hours to find the shooter in what appeared to be a domestic shooting. At the beginning there was no indication that this was the beginning of a mass killing spree. All designating a school a "gun free" zone does is tell people like him that no one on campus will have a gun to shoot back at him. It did nothing to protect those people and wrapped them in the illusion of safety where none was. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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Menaxia - Student 
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Quote: this guy had never been to psychiatric sessions, nor had he ever been committed to an asylum
erm - actually, he had. _______________ This is not the place to look for me |
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planK - Jedi Council 
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Quote: The guy wasn't exactly dressed discreetly either. And security personnel had two hours to apprehend him between the shootings. It's really unfortunate that they didn't do so.
Yeah, when someone walks into a school wearing DPM webbing, you have to wonder what he's up to.
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Falor Windrider - Student 
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Quote: One of the teachers killed was former military. At least one of the students was in the ROTC program. If either of these people had been able to carry a firearm then this tragedy would have been much smaller or may have never happened.
I don't think pouring weaponry into a university is a good idea. even in the aftermath of this tragedy. It would only make weapons more readily available to another loon who might try to commit a copycat killing. I mean, ROTC students are still students. If they leave a gun unattended, it's pretty easy for a potential killer to grab it. Also, while mentally ill people aren't readily given guns, this guy had never been to psychiatric sessions, nor had he ever been committed to an asylum, so it's possible that he bought the weapons legitimately, as his record wouldn't have shown anything amiss in his records. The guy wasn't exactly dressed discreetly either. And security personnel had two hours to apprehend him between the shootings. It's really unfortunate that they didn't do so. _______________ Jedi Knight of the Jedi Order [JO] www.thejedi-order.com |
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planK - Jedi Council
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Quote: One of the teachers killed was former military. At least one of the students was in the ROTC program. If either of these people had been able to carry a firearm then this tragedy would have been much smaller or may have never happened. Yes, because an unsuspecting ROTC student will burst through a wall with a M4 and tear that scumbag down!!11 Yeah, right. |
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Buzz - Student 
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Shame on the media for playing this garbage. They gave this filth exactly what he wanted by playing that video and only after the breaking news aspect of it ended did they find their conscience
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It's also an unfortunate case of firearms being readily available throughout most of the US. I don't think the second amendment is to be blamed for the destructiveness of a mentally ill person's rampage.
 Infact, i'm fairly certain that any person with a strong determination could aquire a firearm anyway, despite of the gun control laws in place. So it's rather unlikely that a ban could've prevented such a scenario - but it surely would've prevented the quick subduing of the appalachian school's shooter by armed students in '02. Most universities including virginia tech are gun free zones. Gun control laws keep firearms out of the hands of law abiding citizens not criminals. I wonder if the school had properly reported on his problems if he'd have been able to acquire a gun in Virginia. I'm not sure on their background check laws, but in most cases mentally disturbed people are one of the groups that firearms cannot be purchased. Even if he couldn't have gotten a gun to do this, he came off as the type that would have been doing homemade bombs. One of the teachers killed was former military. At least one of the students was in the ROTC program. If either of these people had been able to carry a firearm then this tragedy would have been much smaller or may have never happened. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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Masta - Jedi Council 
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Quote: It's also an unfortunate case of firearms being readily available throughout most of the US. I don't think the second amendment is to be blamed for the destructiveness of a mentally ill person's rampage.
Infact, i'm fairly certain that any person with a strong determination could aquire a firearm anyway, despite of the gun control laws in place. So it's rather unlikely that a ban could've prevented such a scenario - but it surely would've prevented the quick subduing of the appalachian school's shooter by armed students in '02. _______________ Find out more about the Jedi Academy Aurochs here and more about Masta here! Married to Kain. |
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planK - Jedi Council
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Quote: It's a very tragic illustration of what happens when sombody who is very obviously mentally ill is not given the help they need.
It's also an unfortunate case of firearms being readily available throughout most of the US. |
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Menaxia - Student 
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It's a very tragic illustration of what happens when sombody who is very obviously mentally ill is not given the help they need. _______________ This is not the place to look for me |
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CuZzA - Student 
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I've read the one with the man called "Dick" and he hits his step-son at the end, but that's it. A 4 year old could write better.
Unfortunately, once somebody is stated as being mentally ill, you can't put the blame on them anymore, despite his refusion to get help. He never had a real motive, (except rich kids, but that's a bit broard) there are only rumours. If I wanted to kill a certain group of people and I wasn't mentally ill, then I'm fully liable. _______________ - Even if Carlsberg made "w*nkers", Christiano Ronaldo would still be the biggest "w*nker" in the world |
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House - Student 
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Right on. My roommmate actually read part of one of them and said they were just complete crap. In other portions of the video he described himself as "dying like Jesus Christ." It seems as if he did this as if he wanted to be remembered as doing something great, not terrible. He also said the blood was on our hands not his also trying to make himself look like a hero, or as Falor said, evidently a self described "martyr." |
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Falor Windrider - Student
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This fella was just a loon. A really sick loon. He needed some good solid psychiatric help, which as I understand, he refused.
My heart goes out to the people affected by this tragedy, who had their loved one's lives snatched from them by an insane self-described "martyr." Btw, this guy had apparently written two plays called "Richard McBeef" and "Mr. Brownstone". They're both terrible and have no literary merit, and are just profanity-laden garbage. _______________ Jedi Knight of the Jedi Order [JO] www.thejedi-order.com |
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House - Student
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Right on, thanks for the link.
Wow, talk about wanting to be a martyr. Fella looks like he just needed a dad to tell him to quit his whining. Anyways, my heart goes out to all of those that did lose friends or family members that day. |
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CuZzA - Student
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House - Student
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Evidentally some type of video also. |
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Siren_Mintaka - Student 
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Apparently a picture of him with two guns, and some written stuff. Aside from that, they haven't given much information.
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House - Student
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Really? Have they released what was in the package? |
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cHoSeN oNe - Retired 
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This pisses me off. _______________ Get busy living, or get busy dying. This comment was edited by cHoSeN oNe on Apr 19 2007 12:03am. |
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