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thedestroyer - Student |
I know I know... I've been inactive. Why should I help TheDestroyer your saying. Cuz you can .
If you want to help e-mail me at thedestroyer@swdroids.com If you help I'd greatly appreciate it. What I REALLY need is programmers and animation. After that, you'll help making the game better. I'd say more but... I don't know anything else to say. I wanna make it full RP. I wannt it so you take on a first person veiw (third option) and run around as whatever you choose to be. Mid-evil game period, Orcs, Elvs, Humans, Vampires, Dwarfs, etc. Hopefully I can get some good power effects, like shooting lightning out of your hand and stuff. Now your probably wondering, what all is the details. Here is some of it . I want to use a quake 3 engine, if it fits my plans. It will be designed so that when you make your toon, you have full control over it. Last names will be reserved to an account, so you could do this: Bob Joe Billy Joe Billy-bob Joe Person hits yes on the "is this the name you want to use?" Message comes up: Congratulations, your character has been created and last name registered. and someone else comes along and wants to use joe, they are on another account: Bob-Billy Joe they hit yes on the "is this the name you want to use?" Message comes up: Error. Last name already taken. Please select a new one. *End of example* Next thing. Money. Its what will make this game tick. Without money, you won't be able to buy medical stuff when you fight. With it, if you get enough of it, you can attack an enemy city with your army and wipe them out. You can build your own city. You can buy equipment, buy medical supplies, even buy trinkets like those expensive sunglassess you always seem to lose, but when you buy a cheap one you can't lose 'em . You could become a sea farer, riding the waves on a ship, hunting down pirates, or being a pirate yourself. Become a farmer, tilling the feilds, earning your living by selling essential food. Without food, your army could starve. A starving army is a mutanous army as they say. A system can be developed based on moral. Food and battles won, good morale. No food, battles lost low morale. Battles won but no food okay morale. Low morale, they desert, or even attack you and go find another army to sign up with (go back to where you hired them)Medium morale, they stick with you, though they aren't the jolliest bunch. High morale, they will gladly lay down their lives for you. You go into battle with an army of high morale, you have a better chance of winning. There is a lot of stuff, but the rest of it I'll assign to programmers, and the public dude to put out, as I want to get to fun stuff now. Plz help this (from what you see) inactive old Star Wars vet. (lol) and get this game going. Mixture of many things, I'm open to suggestions. Positions Webmaster: TheDestroyer Lead Programmer: None Helping programmers none yet Publicity person: No-one. Any other postitions you wanna work as:No-ones said anything Forums are running. Register and PM me if you want to help as another way of communication. The forums are here P.S. I typed this in notebook cuz its easier for me to edit it all. This post was edited by thedestroyer on Jun 14 2007 06:05pm. |
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thedestroyer - Student |
1. I've been bored with trying to find a good RPG game so I'm 3/4 doing it for myself. 1/4 for the RP community.
2. Good Idea. They don't really care for RPG from how they talk. Yes I can tell. You see, in many cases non-rpers scorn rpers cuz they think its "a wast of time" or "just plain stupid". This is a version of it, soooo I guess its time to ignore it. 2a. People please stop saying I can't make this game. 2b. Thanks to you who haven't said I can't do this. I greatly appreciate it. *Puts on sunglasses * Time to go get a tanline around my eyes . J/K |
Monteeeeeee - Nugget |
Quote: Edit: Got someone to help. Verox, someone from MOO. So haha to those of you who said or thought "He will never get anyone to help".
with that frame of mind your doomed before you start. Dont focus on what negative people say, let it go, concentrate on stuff that will help you. Dont look for ways to prove people wrong, your not doing it for them your doing it for yourself i presume.. _______________ If you add me to MSN, tell me who you are Best Movie Character EVER!! |
thedestroyer - Student |
I did those maps when I was bored, so I never really did anything with 'em lol.
Edit: Got someone to help. Verox, someone from MOO. So haha to those of you who said or thought "He will never get anyone to help". This comment was edited by thedestroyer on Jun 18 2007 05:37pm. |
tarpman - The Tarped Avenger |
Ideas are great, but in the long run that's all they are: ideas. Ideas are also cheap and easy to mass produce. Everyone has lots of ideas.
If you want people to help you out, you'll need to show them that you have something more than just an idea: you'll need something tangible. You don't have to build an entire demo all on your own; on the other hand, anyone can do a simple website, anyone can hex edit character files, and anyone can get a few people to add tags to their name and claim that they've run a clan. In a similar vein, an A+ certification is nothing to be proud of, regardless of your age. I'm not trying to be mean. On the other hand you do have to understand that you'll need to put in significant effort of your own before anyone will want to add theirs. Learn some C (for example) and see how long it takes you to add even one or two small features (that work) to the JKA engine before you go around asking people to build a whole new game from scratch for you. Or try building your own web application - no, Flash does not count. I should know. I've had ideas before. Oh, and it's perl, not Pearl. _______________ Saving the world, one kilobyte at a time. |
Everon - Student - The winner!!! |
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Hmm... I have done website projects. One of them, I removed it since I have no further use of it was bessersociety.com. I ran a small business on it. Swdroids.com is my file keeping website, an informationless one with a cool template. destroyersgames.com has an ftp and forum. http://destroyersgames.com/ftp. I have made a few maps that half worked cuz I got bored and didn't feel like working out the bugs. I've run a guild in Shadowbane: Throne of Oblivion. I have hex edited some Star Wars Battlefront II (one character I changed the name and weapons of) stuff. Most of it I've deleted due to uselessness.
Hmm.. what else... I am studying to be certified as an A+ Technition and I'm not 15. Other than that I'm not thinking of sooo... yea. I've got mass person guiding experience And that's why no one is jumping to assist you with your project mate. And is the very reason I asked the question in the first place. |
D@RtHM@UL - Student |
Quote: Hmm... I have done website projects. One of them, I removed it since I have no further use of it was bessersociety.com. I ran a small business on it. Swdroids.com is my file keeping website, an informationless one with a cool template. destroyersgames.com has an ftp and forum. http://destroyersgames.com/ftp. I have made a few maps that half worked cuz I got bored and didn't feel like working out the bugs. I've run a guild in Shadowbane: Throne of Oblivion. I have hex edited some Star Wars Battlefront II (one character I changed the name and weapons of) stuff. Most of it I've deleted due to uselessness.
Hmm.. what else... I am studying to be certified as an A+ Technition and I'm not 15. Other than that I'm not thinking of sooo... yea. I've got mass person guiding experience And that's why no one is jumping to assist you with your project mate. |
SaZ - Student |
well, your name is 'the destroyer' so maybe you should change the purpose of your project? ololol
j/k ;p _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
thedestroyer - Student |
Hmm... I have done website projects. One of them, I removed it since I have no further use of it was bessersociety.com. I ran a small business on it. Swdroids.com is my file keeping website, an informationless one with a cool template. destroyersgames.com has an ftp and forum. http://destroyersgames.com/ftp. I have made a few maps that half worked cuz I got bored and didn't feel like working out the bugs. I've run a guild in Shadowbane: Throne of Oblivion. I have hex edited some Star Wars Battlefront II (one character I changed the name and weapons of) stuff. Most of it I've deleted due to uselessness.
Hmm.. what else... I am studying to be certified as an A+ Technition and I'm not 15. Other than that I'm not thinking of sooo... yea. I've got mass person guiding experience |
Everon - Student - The winner!!! |
If you feel that you can do this can you show us one of your previous projects that was successful?
This isn't an attempt to burn you or drown out your ideas but I am both curious at what you have done previously and what quality it is . - Zeke. |
thedestroyer - Student |
1. Flaming is saved for special ocasions. Oddly tho, I've lived my life full of self control. Now I just wanna be mean ,though I try to resist it... *lights virtue's homework on fire while he's not looking* .
2. I've been doin' small stuff for a while now. Found mapping isn't for me, same with other things. I did manige to make myself a lugor-t2 map... though I forgot how to use lugor-t2... oh well. U3 might work better anyway. 3. I will do this as soon as people will help. AND NO I'M NOT HOARDING THE GLORY, not pointing fingers at anyone who said I am*cough cough*SaZ*cough cough* . (that was joking virtue, trying to heave myself out of a dungpit of insults .) This comment was edited by thedestroyer on Jun 16 2007 08:25pm. |
Virtue - Jedi Council |
Nobody has said that you can't do it. All they are saying is that you need to have alot of experience and knowledge about such things before you attempt such a large scale project.
My suggestion that you start small and build up was merely trying to point you in the right direction - eventually, you'll be able to do pretty much anything if you have the right experiences, especially something like this. Like you can't expect to be able to build a house, just because you know what a brick is, there's alot more to it than that. Just food for thought. - Virtue. PS. In regard to you talking about flaming the next person who asks for help - No one has flamed you in this thread. If you decide that you are within your rights to start flaming others, I'll be there to relieve you of your posting rights. _______________ Academy Architect This comment was edited by Virtue on Jun 16 2007 04:09am. |
thedestroyer - Student |
I give up. Not on the project, on getting someone here to help without people trying to stop me doing stuff. Next time they ask for help I guess I get to flame then . Let this now drift off into the abys of many topics..
P.S. People, just so ya know I take saying I can't do something as an insult to me personaly. Suggestions like "Try using this toolset" I appreciate. So you all saying essentially "You can't do this!" insulted me. Quote: Mikehhh said:
That was help. I do infact know what I want in the end. Now all someone has to do is use the force and pull the image out of me mond .
Aye. It's a long, grueling task that requires alot of knowledge, intent and dedication. You better be bloody sure that this is what you wanna do mate. You also better get a keen idea of what you want as an end product. _______________ This comment was edited by thedestroyer on Jun 16 2007 03:47am. |
Hardwired - Retired |
Thedestroyer wrote:
Quote: If you don't like my suggestion then well, suggest one yourself. If ya' can't think of an answer don't post a complaint yoself.
Virtue wrote: Quote: I suggest that if you want to start doing things such as this, you start small, like everyone else does. Like build maps, release them, get feedback, get better, make good maps that people will want to play on, then ask around if there is a team of modders (Like the MB2 people, for example) that you could make maps for - this will give you experience and insight into projects like this and in the future, you can start creating your own projects once you have the experience in their management.
- HW _______________ ::Nothing wrong with a little shooting.....as long as the right people get shot:: |
Augusta_Mintaka - Student |
It's not that you can't have an idea, but have you truthfully thought this through? I don't want discourage you, but do you think you have 5+ years worth of dedication and can handle an average 75% chance that the project will end up being scrapped as is the chance that all similar ideas face. _______________ "Deos fortioribus adesse." This comment was edited by Augusta_Mintaka on Jun 15 2007 05:17pm. |
thedestroyer - Student |
1. Far from basic PHPBB. More than 100 mods on it. Its MetaBB v6.1.
2. Why won't this work? All I'm trying to do is put it together and get a game going. Leadership prospective is this: Webmaker Programmer Graphics Animation Etc. Each person has his/her right to ideas. I don't really know about you, but I think its worth a try. If you don't like my suggestion then well, suggest one yourself. If ya' can't think of an answer don't post a complaint yoself. I bet that stung a bit . Really, do you think I'm taking this like a "Clan". Your kinda saying that TJA is a dictatorship. I said I'm basing the teams off this system. Just different names, ranks meen nuthin. I wanna go through with this. BTW. I have done many MANY webmaking projects. Made one for a campground, a small business, and I might make one for another business soon. This game website is just another one. I think you remember me from my n00b age too much . I'm training to be an A+ technition and I'm not 16 yet. . This comment was edited by thedestroyer on Jun 15 2007 04:46pm. |
Virtue - Jedi Council |
Quote: Edit: the emotion is : O not ;O. minus the space
He meant to write it like that. In all honesty mate, I don't see this working either, simply because you seem to be coming at this from a "leadership" perspective. You want to be the one who calls the shots, yet you have nothing to offer the team by way of help aside from a supposed website (that hasn't even been created yet) and a few forums that are bog-standard PHPBB that you are the only member of. If I were you, I'd go and look for projects that are already forming and ask if you can be their website guy. As far as you being the "director" goes, you don't seem to have the organisation, communication, rallying or leadership skills for something like this, not to mention the fact that this is the... seventh or eigth project you have tried to start up here at the JA, all of which an initial post was made, then forgotten about a week later - so it seems you lack the patience to see your projects through as well. And now you wish to create an entirely new game altogether. Forgive me if I seem like I'm flaming you here, it is not my intention and I mean no harm. I'm merely trying to make you aware that there's ALOT that has to go into something like this - even a webmaster for a large-scale project such as this would have alot to live up to, let alone a project director. I suggest that if you want to start doing things such as this, you start small, like everyone else does. Like build maps, release them, get feedback, get better, make good maps that people will want to play on, then ask around if there is a team of modders (Like the MB2 people, for example) that you could make maps for - this will give you experience and insight into projects like this and in the future, you can start creating your own projects once you have the experience in their management. This is just from a mapper's perspective, though. But it can be done in exactly the same way if you're a coder, a graphic artist or a web designer. Your goal should always be just a few steps ahead, not right off in the distance. You'll get there eventually. Peace. - Virtue. _______________ Academy Architect This comment was edited by Virtue on Jun 14 2007 06:38pm. |
thedestroyer - Student |
Nopey. I'm saying I will help direct the mod, they get programming credit, i'm just making the website. Democracy, saying I'm a dictator is bad form, wot? (thats hare speach, read the redwall series ).
But no, glory comes from sucess, they will be the people with the sucess in the programing. I get success in finding them and bringing them together for it. I'm just the website guy. BTW, they get credit for designing it, I'm putting my name in as this: Web Design Thedestroyer. Other than that, they are top dogs. And finally, (I hope, I keep editing this darn thing cuz I'm not in the spam mood) putting it that way is not nice. I don't want "glory". I just want another way to rp. I know many people who love a good role playing game. Another thing. Its not glory if someone else helped and I take all the credit, thats no bright light, thats an evil dark light. Edit: the emotion is : O not ;O. minus the space This comment was edited by thedestroyer on Jun 14 2007 06:16pm. |
SaZ - Student |
Quote: I must say, I won't be doing any coding besides reveiwing it for slopyness
so basically you want others to make a mod so you can take all the glory for yourself? ;o _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
thedestroyer - Student |
Hmm... a few things. 1. Don't convince me otherwise. I said I won't fail, and If I put my mind to it, this presidential-award-recieving mind will do it. (I got a golden award singed by the president of the United states... awesome eh?) I want this to be loose cuz i'm open to ideas. The AI stuff... thats a problem. There have got to be people out there that know what they are doing with that but I don't sooo... that means I could turn this into a mod that will take about an hour to download on highspeed . If anyone here has heard of Euka mod, I know hte guy who made it. He was part of clan moo before it died. (Died during school times ) Well you mostly suggest it so, I guess a mod is a good starting point. And if you say I've got no prior experience with coding I'm gunna burst man. I've studied the books, tho' its guna take some time for me to fully understand it, but I can do 2 things. 1. Make websites (yea, its coding, in HTML, PHP, MySQL, or even Pearl) and 2. I know enough about coding that I can fix a small bug, such as a variable declared twice that needs to be edited. If you have Ideas on how I should work the recruitment, please do tell. I've set up a forum just for it. http://destroyersgames.com/forum/index.php. So hah. I win that part. If I can't get away with doing this, I'll make the site into a mod source. If I can then, it'll still have mods on it, but the one I wanna make stickied lol.
I must say, I won't be doing any coding besides reveiwing it for slopyness. I will make the website, host it, and upload any updates and stuff. I thought of how I'm going to do this, and I thought of the administrative system here. We have a webmaster, leader, comunity contact (thats virtue lol). I'm taking the role of webmaster and organizer. Just think, I'll be incharge of the website *puts a bug in it that makes people's sound systems go crazy* (Just kidding). My fingers are tired. And last, but not least. If your gunna tell me this won't work, give your fingers a rest. Saying it won't work. If your gunna help, tell me. As I said EMAIL ME. Finally, thanks for the help on the engines and toolsets, those'll help a lot. This comment was edited by thedestroyer on Jun 14 2007 05:39pm. |
Augusta_Mintaka - Student |
Yeah, I've been waiting for the toolset for ages
How dearly I miss the thief series To add to the thread, making a game might be a monumental task, but moding can be easier. Still hard, but you wont have to worry about a lot of the hard parts like AI, textures and core files. _______________ "Deos fortioribus adesse." This comment was edited by Augusta_Mintaka on Jun 10 2007 10:04am. |
SaZ - Student |
Quote: Maybe you should think it through, The Dark Mod has been around for quite some time and they are creating a toolset off of Doom 3's engine. They have quite a talented staff and speculate a release date around 2008-09.
If you want a project like that to blossom, then you need to know what exactly you want. Maybe you should consider a quake 3 engine based game like JKA. rofl u deserve a page-claim. that mod looks awesome _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
planK - Jedi Council |
Quote: You don't seem to know what your doing and also seem to have no prior experience with mod/game making in the past.
If you even try to undertake this project you'll find that a lot of the work will be half done or every things rushed. Or even in most cases no one even joins the team due to the lack of professionality used in the recruitment method. Not to be harsh but I don't think this will even get off the ground, nevermind being released. - Zeke. Aye. It's a long, grueling task that requires alot of knowledge, intent and dedication. You better be bloody sure that this is what you wanna do mate. You also better get a keen idea of what you want as an end product. |
Everon - Student - The winner!!! |
You don't seem to know what your doing and also seem to have no prior experience with mod/game making in the past.
If you even try to undertake this project you'll find that a lot of the work will be half done or every things rushed. Or even in most cases no one even joins the team due to the lack of professionality used in the recruitment method. Not to be harsh but I don't think this will even get off the ground, nevermind being released. - Zeke. |
Augusta_Mintaka - Student |
Maybe you should think it through, The Dark Mod has been around for quite some time and they are creating a toolset off of Doom 3's engine. They have quite a talented staff and speculate a release date around 2008-09.
If you want a project like that to blossom, then you need to know what exactly you want. Maybe you should consider a quake 3 engine based game like JKA. _______________ "Deos fortioribus adesse." |
SaZ - Student |
and the point of this is? _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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