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Jun 06 2007 11:50pm

thedestroyer
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thedestroyer
I know I know... I've been inactive. Why should I help TheDestroyer your saying. Cuz you can :D.
If you want to help e-mail me at thedestroyer@swdroids.com If you help I'd greatly appreciate it.
What I REALLY need is programmers and animation. After that, you'll help making the game better.
I'd say more but... I don't know anything else to say.

I wanna make it full RP.
I wannt it so you take on a first person veiw (third option) and run around as whatever you choose to be.
Mid-evil game period, Orcs, Elvs, Humans, Vampires, Dwarfs, etc.
Hopefully I can get some good power effects, like shooting lightning out of your hand and stuff.
Now your probably wondering, what all is the details. Here is some of it :).
I want to use a quake 3 engine, if it fits my plans. It will be designed so that when you make your toon, you have full
control over it. Last names will be reserved to an account, so you could do this:
Bob Joe
Billy Joe
Billy-bob Joe
Person hits yes on the "is this the name you want to use?"
Message comes up:
Congratulations, your character has been created and last name registered.
and someone else comes along and wants to use joe, they are on another account:
Bob-Billy Joe
they hit yes on the "is this the name you want to use?"
Message comes up:
Error. Last name already taken. Please select a new one.
*End of example*
Next thing. Money. Its what will make this game tick. Without money, you won't be able to buy medical stuff when you fight.
With it, if you get enough of it, you can attack an enemy city with your army and wipe them out. You can build your own
city. You can buy equipment, buy medical supplies, even buy trinkets like those expensive sunglassess you always seem to
lose, but when you buy a cheap one you can't lose 'em :P. You could become a sea farer, riding the waves on a ship,
hunting down pirates, or being a pirate yourself. Become a farmer, tilling the feilds, earning your living by selling
essential food. Without food, your army could starve. A starving army is a mutanous army as they say. A system can be
developed based on moral. Food and battles won, good morale. No food, battles lost low morale. Battles won but no food
okay morale. Low morale, they desert, or even attack you and go find another army to sign up with (go back to where you
hired them)Medium morale, they stick with you, though they aren't the jolliest bunch. High morale, they will gladly
lay down their lives for you. You go into battle with an army of high morale, you have a better chance of winning.

There is a lot of stuff, but the rest of it I'll assign to programmers, and the public dude to put out, as I want to
get to fun stuff now.

Plz help this (from what you see) inactive old Star Wars vet. (lol) and get this game going.
Mixture of many things, I'm open to suggestions.

Positions

Webmaster: TheDestroyer
Lead Programmer: None
Helping programmers none yet
Publicity person: No-one.
Any other postitions you wanna work as:No-ones said anything

Forums are running. Register and PM me if you want to help as another way of communication.
The forums are here

P.S. I typed this in notebook cuz its easier for me to edit it all.

This post was edited by thedestroyer on Jun 14 2007 06:05pm.

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Jun 17 2007 03:54pm

Everon
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 Everon

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Hmm... I have done website projects. One of them, I removed it since I have no further use of it was bessersociety.com. I ran a small business on it. Swdroids.com is my file keeping website, an informationless one with a cool template. destroyersgames.com has an ftp and forum. http://destroyersgames.com/ftp. I have made a few maps that half worked cuz I got bored and didn't feel like working out the bugs. I've run a guild in Shadowbane: Throne of Oblivion. I have hex edited some Star Wars Battlefront II (one character I changed the name and weapons of) stuff. Most of it I've deleted due to uselessness.
Hmm.. what else... I am studying to be certified as an A+ Technition and I'm not 15. Other than that I'm not thinking of sooo... yea. I've got mass person guiding experience :)


And that's why no one is jumping to assist you with your project mate.


And is the very reason I asked the question in the first place.

Jun 17 2007 10:09am

D@RtHM@UL
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 D@RtHM@UL

Quote:
Hmm... I have done website projects. One of them, I removed it since I have no further use of it was bessersociety.com. I ran a small business on it. Swdroids.com is my file keeping website, an informationless one with a cool template. destroyersgames.com has an ftp and forum. http://destroyersgames.com/ftp. I have made a few maps that half worked cuz I got bored and didn't feel like working out the bugs. I've run a guild in Shadowbane: Throne of Oblivion. I have hex edited some Star Wars Battlefront II (one character I changed the name and weapons of) stuff. Most of it I've deleted due to uselessness.
Hmm.. what else... I am studying to be certified as an A+ Technition and I'm not 15. Other than that I'm not thinking of sooo... yea. I've got mass person guiding experience :)


And that's why no one is jumping to assist you with your project mate.

Jun 17 2007 09:49am

SaZ
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 SaZ

well, your name is 'the destroyer' so maybe you should change the purpose of your project? ololol
j/k ;p
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Jun 17 2007 02:47am

thedestroyer
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 thedestroyer

Hmm... I have done website projects. One of them, I removed it since I have no further use of it was bessersociety.com. I ran a small business on it. Swdroids.com is my file keeping website, an informationless one with a cool template. destroyersgames.com has an ftp and forum. http://destroyersgames.com/ftp. I have made a few maps that half worked cuz I got bored and didn't feel like working out the bugs. I've run a guild in Shadowbane: Throne of Oblivion. I have hex edited some Star Wars Battlefront II (one character I changed the name and weapons of) stuff. Most of it I've deleted due to uselessness.
Hmm.. what else... I am studying to be certified as an A+ Technition and I'm not 15. Other than that I'm not thinking of sooo... yea. I've got mass person guiding experience :)

Jun 16 2007 11:42pm

Everon
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 Everon

If you feel that you can do this can you show us one of your previous projects that was successful?

This isn't an attempt to burn you or drown out your ideas but I am both curious at what you have done previously and what quality it is :).

- Zeke.

Jun 16 2007 06:41pm

thedestroyer
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 thedestroyer

1. Flaming is saved for special ocasions. Oddly tho, I've lived my life full of self control. Now I just wanna be mean :(,though I try to resist it... *lights virtue's homework on fire while he's not looking* :P.

2. I've been doin' small stuff for a while now. Found mapping isn't for me, same with other things. I did manige to make myself a lugor-t2 map... though I forgot how to use lugor-t2... oh well. U3 might work better anyway.

3. I will do this as soon as people will help. AND NO I'M NOT HOARDING THE GLORY, not pointing fingers at anyone who said I am*cough cough*SaZ*cough cough* :P. (that was joking virtue, trying to heave myself out of a dungpit of insults :D.)

This comment was edited by thedestroyer on Jun 16 2007 08:25pm.

Jun 16 2007 04:08am

Virtue
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 Virtue

Nobody has said that you can't do it. All they are saying is that you need to have alot of experience and knowledge about such things before you attempt such a large scale project.
My suggestion that you start small and build up was merely trying to point you in the right direction - eventually, you'll be able to do pretty much anything if you have the right experiences, especially something like this.

Like you can't expect to be able to build a house, just because you know what a brick is, there's alot more to it than that.

Just food for thought.

- Virtue. :alliance:

PS. In regard to you talking about flaming the next person who asks for help - No one has flamed you in this thread. If you decide that you are within your rights to start flaming others, I'll be there to relieve you of your posting rights. ;)
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This comment was edited by Virtue on Jun 16 2007 04:09am.

Jun 16 2007 03:43am

thedestroyer
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 thedestroyer

I give up. Not on the project, on getting someone here to help without people trying to stop me doing stuff. Next time they ask for help I guess I get to flame then :P. Let this now drift off into the abys of many topics..

P.S. People, just so ya know I take saying I can't do something as an insult to me personaly. Suggestions like "Try using this toolset" I appreciate. So you all saying essentially "You can't do this!" insulted me.

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Mikehhh said:
Aye. It's a long, grueling task that requires alot of knowledge, intent and dedication. You better be bloody sure that this is what you wanna do mate. You also better get a keen idea of what you want as an end product.
That was help. I do infact know what I want in the end. Now all someone has to do is use the force and pull the image out of me mond :D.
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This comment was edited by thedestroyer on Jun 16 2007 03:47am.

Jun 15 2007 09:12pm

Hardwired
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 Hardwired

Thedestroyer wrote:
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If you don't like my suggestion then well, suggest one yourself. If ya' can't think of an answer don't post a complaint yoself.



Virtue wrote:
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I suggest that if you want to start doing things such as this, you start small, like everyone else does. Like build maps, release them, get feedback, get better, make good maps that people will want to play on, then ask around if there is a team of modders (Like the MB2 people, for example) that you could make maps for - this will give you experience and insight into projects like this and in the future, you can start creating your own projects once you have the experience in their management.


- HW


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Jun 15 2007 05:17pm

Augusta_Mintaka
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 Augusta_Mintaka

It's not that you can't have an idea, but have you truthfully thought this through? I don't want discourage you, but do you think you have 5+ years worth of dedication and can handle an average 75% chance that the project will end up being scrapped as is the chance that all similar ideas face.
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This comment was edited by Augusta_Mintaka on Jun 15 2007 05:17pm.

Jun 15 2007 04:43pm

thedestroyer
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 thedestroyer

1. Far from basic PHPBB. More than 100 mods on it. Its MetaBB v6.1.

2. Why won't this work? All I'm trying to do is put it together and get a game going. Leadership prospective is this:
Webmaker
Programmer
Graphics
Animation
Etc.

Each person has his/her right to ideas. I don't really know about you, but I think its worth a try. If you don't like my suggestion then well, suggest one yourself. If ya' can't think of an answer don't post a complaint yoself. I bet that stung a bit :D. Really, do you think I'm taking this like a "Clan". Your kinda saying that TJA is a dictatorship. I said I'm basing the teams off this system. Just different names, ranks meen nuthin. I wanna go through with this.

BTW. I have done many MANY webmaking projects. Made one for a campground, a small business, and I might make one for another business soon. This game website is just another one. I think you remember me from my n00b age too much :(. I'm training to be an A+ technition and I'm not 16 yet. :P.

This comment was edited by thedestroyer on Jun 15 2007 04:46pm.

Jun 14 2007 06:30pm

Virtue
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 Virtue

Quote:
Edit: the emotion is : O not ;O. minus the space :)


He meant to write it like that.

In all honesty mate, I don't see this working either, simply because you seem to be coming at this from a "leadership" perspective. You want to be the one who calls the shots, yet you have nothing to offer the team by way of help aside from a supposed website (that hasn't even been created yet) and a few forums that are bog-standard PHPBB that you are the only member of.

If I were you, I'd go and look for projects that are already forming and ask if you can be their website guy.
As far as you being the "director" goes, you don't seem to have the organisation, communication, rallying or leadership skills for something like this, not to mention the fact that this is the... seventh or eigth project you have tried to start up here at the JA, all of which an initial post was made, then forgotten about a week later - so it seems you lack the patience to see your projects through as well. And now you wish to create an entirely new game altogether.

Forgive me if I seem like I'm flaming you here, it is not my intention and I mean no harm. I'm merely trying to make you aware that there's ALOT that has to go into something like this - even a webmaster for a large-scale project such as this would have alot to live up to, let alone a project director.

I suggest that if you want to start doing things such as this, you start small, like everyone else does. Like build maps, release them, get feedback, get better, make good maps that people will want to play on, then ask around if there is a team of modders (Like the MB2 people, for example) that you could make maps for - this will give you experience and insight into projects like this and in the future, you can start creating your own projects once you have the experience in their management.

This is just from a mapper's perspective, though. But it can be done in exactly the same way if you're a coder, a graphic artist or a web designer.

Your goal should always be just a few steps ahead, not right off in the distance. You'll get there eventually.

Peace.

- Virtue. :alliance:
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This comment was edited by Virtue on Jun 14 2007 06:38pm.

Jun 14 2007 06:01pm

thedestroyer
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 thedestroyer

Nopey. I'm saying I will help direct the mod, they get programming credit, i'm just making the website. Democracy, saying I'm a dictator is bad form, wot? (thats hare speach, read the redwall series :P).

But no, glory comes from sucess, they will be the people with the sucess in the programing. I get success in finding them and bringing them together for it. I'm just the website guy.

BTW, they get credit for designing it, I'm putting my name in as this:

Web Design Thedestroyer. Other than that, they are top dogs.

And finally, (I hope, I keep editing this darn thing cuz I'm not in the spam mood) putting it that way is not nice. I don't want "glory". I just want another way to rp. I know many people who love a good role playing game. Another thing. Its not glory if someone else helped and I take all the credit, thats no bright light, thats an evil dark light.

Edit: the emotion is : O not ;O. minus the space :)

This comment was edited by thedestroyer on Jun 14 2007 06:16pm.

Jun 14 2007 05:46pm

SaZ
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 SaZ

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I must say, I won't be doing any coding besides reveiwing it for slopyness


so basically you want others to make a mod so you can take all the glory for yourself? ;o
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Jun 14 2007 05:38pm

thedestroyer
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 thedestroyer

Hmm... a few things. 1. Don't convince me otherwise. I said I won't fail, and If I put my mind to it, this presidential-award-recieving mind will do it. (I got a golden award singed by the president of the United states... awesome eh?) I want this to be loose cuz i'm open to ideas. The AI stuff... thats a problem. There have got to be people out there that know what they are doing with that but I don't sooo... that means I could turn this into a mod that will take about an hour to download on highspeed :D. If anyone here has heard of Euka mod, I know hte guy who made it. He was part of clan moo before it died. (Died during school times :( ) Well you mostly suggest it so, I guess a mod is a good starting point. And if you say I've got no prior experience with coding I'm gunna burst man. I've studied the books, tho' its guna take some time for me to fully understand it, but I can do 2 things. 1. Make websites (yea, its coding, in HTML, PHP, MySQL, or even Pearl) and 2. I know enough about coding that I can fix a small bug, such as a variable declared twice that needs to be edited. If you have Ideas on how I should work the recruitment, please do tell. I've set up a forum just for it. http://destroyersgames.com/forum/index.php. So hah. I win that part. If I can't get away with doing this, I'll make the site into a mod source. If I can then, it'll still have mods on it, but the one I wanna make stickied lol.

I must say, I won't be doing any coding besides reveiwing it for slopyness. I will make the website, host it, and upload any updates and stuff. I thought of how I'm going to do this, and I thought of the administrative system here. We have a webmaster, leader, comunity contact (thats virtue lol). I'm taking the role of webmaster and organizer. Just think, I'll be incharge of the website *puts a bug in it that makes people's sound systems go crazy* (Just kidding). My fingers are tired.



And last, but not least.

If your gunna tell me this won't work, give your fingers a rest. Saying it won't work. If your gunna help, tell me. As I said EMAIL ME.
Finally, thanks for the help on the engines and toolsets, those'll help a lot.

This comment was edited by thedestroyer on Jun 14 2007 05:39pm.

Jun 10 2007 10:00am

Augusta_Mintaka
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 Augusta_Mintaka

Yeah, I've been waiting for the toolset for ages :D
How dearly I miss the thief series :(

To add to the thread, making a game might be a monumental task, but moding can be easier. Still hard, but you wont have to worry about a lot of the hard parts like AI, textures and core files.
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This comment was edited by Augusta_Mintaka on Jun 10 2007 10:04am.

Jun 10 2007 09:46am

SaZ
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 SaZ

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Maybe you should think it through, The Dark Mod has been around for quite some time and they are creating a toolset off of Doom 3's engine. They have quite a talented staff and speculate a release date around 2008-09.

If you want a project like that to blossom, then you need to know what exactly you want. Maybe you should consider a quake 3 engine based game like JKA.


rofl u deserve a page-claim.
that mod looks awesome :D
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Jun 10 2007 04:42am

planK
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 planK

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You don't seem to know what your doing and also seem to have no prior experience with mod/game making in the past.

If you even try to undertake this project you'll find that a lot of the work will be half done or every things rushed. Or even in most cases no one even joins the team due to the lack of professionality used in the recruitment method.

Not to be harsh but I don't think this will even get off the ground, nevermind being released.

- Zeke.


Aye. It's a long, grueling task that requires alot of knowledge, intent and dedication. You better be bloody sure that this is what you wanna do mate. You also better get a keen idea of what you want as an end product.

Jun 09 2007 11:21pm

Everon
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 Everon

You don't seem to know what your doing and also seem to have no prior experience with mod/game making in the past.

If you even try to undertake this project you'll find that a lot of the work will be half done or every things rushed. Or even in most cases no one even joins the team due to the lack of professionality used in the recruitment method.

Not to be harsh but I don't think this will even get off the ground, nevermind being released.

- Zeke.

Jun 09 2007 11:15pm

Augusta_Mintaka
 - Student
 Augusta_Mintaka

Maybe you should think it through, The Dark Mod has been around for quite some time and they are creating a toolset off of Doom 3's engine. They have quite a talented staff and speculate a release date around 2008-09.

If you want a project like that to blossom, then you need to know what exactly you want. Maybe you should consider a quake 3 engine based game like JKA.
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Jun 09 2007 09:56pm

SaZ
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 SaZ

and the point of this is?
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Jun 09 2007 08:13pm

thedestroyer
 - Student
 thedestroyer

More info, okay. First off NO JKA. I want fresh easy to use code. JKA is a bit sloppy if I were to use it for a whole new game. Prolly a Quake engine or something. 3D... whatever Elder Scrolls: IV Oblivon uses.

Jun 09 2007 12:06pm

NotSoLittleCaesar
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 NotSoLittleCaesar

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You haven't mentioned any details of what engine you are using, for what game or what the mod or "Game" is about.

You'll need to give more info to get peoples attention dude.

- Zeke.


indeed. :o i bet its for jka though :P.
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Jun 08 2007 07:51pm

Everon
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 Everon

You haven't mentioned any details of what engine you are using, for what game or what the mod or "Game" is about.

You'll need to give more info to get peoples attention dude.

- Zeke.

Jun 07 2007 10:26am

SaZ
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 SaZ

its you again.

hai!
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