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Is the dark side stronger???
Apr 06 2003 11:15pm

Lord Jaws
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:empire: well.... Let's give your thougts here about this post, and I will give mind :empire:
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This post was edited by Lord Jaws on Apr 06 2003 11:16pm.

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Apr 10 2003 03:45pm

Lord Jaws
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dunno, check out starwars page

http://www.starwars.com/databank/species/yuuzhanvong/index.html

mayby???
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One night, I was lying in my bed, looking up at the stars and I said to myself: "Where the h*** is my ceiling?!

Apr 10 2003 03:45pm

Lord Jaws
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 Lord Jaws

dunno, check out starwars page

http://www.starwars.com/databank/species/yuuzhanvong/index.html

mayby???
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Apr 10 2003 02:43pm

Plo Koon
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BTW wtf are the vong or the vong force? huh?
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This comment was edited by Plo Koon on Apr 10 2003 03:14pm.

Apr 10 2003 02:42pm

Plo Koon
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like you cut onions and the aroma makes your eyes burn,or you try to do a backflip and hurt yourslef :D ahh j/k i agree totally,the jedi only fight if they have too,they havnt fought a sith in thousands of years....

true buzz true....
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Apr 10 2003 12:04pm

Lord Jaws
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I totally argee buzz.

becouse in life, with an antvantage, you get a disatvantage.
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Apr 09 2003 08:37pm

Buzz
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 Buzz

The lightside isn't stronger either. Niether is. The Darkside gives you power quicker at the expense of corruption of mind and body. The light side gives you power that won't corrupt you at the expense of time. Both ways can theoretically give you the same amount of power. Mara Jade and Corran have a short discussion in I, Jedi about some of Luke's teachings and how they were different from Mara's instruction by the Emperor. The main point in that discussion was that it wasn't very different just using a different type of fuel that runs cleaner and leaner, and won't burn out the engine. There is a difference though between a light side Force user and a Jedi though. A Jedi also have a code to follow. It seems to me that as a Jedi grows in the Force and thus becomes more powerful they rely on it less. For instance a Jedi can lift rocks with his mind at a relatively young point in his Force life, and do it with some concentration. So as the Jedi grows he can lift rocks easier and larger things with more concentration. So really if Yoda or Luke wanted to they could probably float themselves everywhere. But as a Jedi grows in the Force they gain knowledge and wisdom from it. Once they have this knowledge and wisdom they don't need to use the Force to tap into it again. So a Jedi won't go floating himself around everywhere.

I'm not addressing the No sides to the Force because that is a different way of looking at the Force than the Jedi Sith and Dark Jedi, which are all from the same basis of looking at the Force. Even Yoda knew that there were different ways of looking at the Force but there was no need for anyone to really go down that path. Since they had never come acrossed a foe or problem that has been blind to their views like the Vong are in the NJO.
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Apr 09 2003 07:49pm

Marcus Burnett
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Stronger? No. After all, light and dark depend on the same force. But the way the dark jedi use it, gives them power over others, like lightning and grip. So they use it to gain power, and might therefore seem more powerful.
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Apr 09 2003 03:50pm

Lord Jaws
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So the light side is stronger?? why??? :D
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Apr 09 2003 12:06am

Buzz
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 Buzz

Jake its not wrong. Just one way of looking at it. Obviously the Jedi's method of looking at the Force isn't full proof since they are just as blind to the Vong's presence in the Force as non Force Sensitive people are blind to the Force.
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Apr 08 2003 08:31pm

Plo Koon
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buzz correct... Darth Vader showes all of us that the dark side isnt stronger,he turns to the light and kills the emporer! go anikan!
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Apr 07 2003 04:13pm

Lord Jaws
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Well, the dark side is stronger from a sertan point of view, (quote of Obi-1, the part of the view). The power is more easy to gain, and the dark is controlled by anger, hate, stuf like that. If u are equaly strong the raged person is stronger, but he is not relying on the frece, as The Jedi would. So, I think there is no stronger side in this matter. With all it advantages comes it disatvantages.
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Apr 07 2003 01:09pm

Flamori Athena
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One word:

Vergere
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Apr 07 2003 02:41am

Jake Kainite
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I've heard many different versions of this, with the jedi thoery being wrong at that there are no 2 sides, just one greater force. You put forward good reasons and have the NJO books and stuff to back up and strengthen your ides. This doesn't make em right though :D

The jedi existed for thousands of generations, with the council contemplating the very nature of the force. Think about it, these well wise people were going at it for thousands and thousands of years. If the whole jedi theory gets proven wrong by one ex-jedi who looks weird (vergere) then thats just pants :) Its a good theory but I'll stick with the original idea of dark and light, good and evil.

The EU stuff is supported by lucasarts but wasn't created by lucas himself, which in my opinion doesn't make it 'vanilla' star wars. although I spose alot of stuff in the new and old movies wasn't his idea either.

Don't argue with the jedi alright :) Or I'll get upset and cry.
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Apr 07 2003 01:04am

Kueller
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But I like the best path of all. The NO-side. You don't have to choose sides as buzz's comment says. There is a way to look at the force as a whole, not as just light and dark.

Just gotta say I got this wisdom from all the cool books in EU. So it's kinda only reproducing stuff. Why can't I ever think of something origonal.
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This comment was edited by Kueller on Apr 07 2003 01:14am.

Apr 07 2003 12:07am

Buzz
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 Buzz

Yoda didn't say the light side was stronger though did he. He just said that the darkside wasn't stronger. You will gain power quicker with the darkside, but the power comes with a price. With the lightside you will also become powerful, but its price is time. Its not something that will just come to you.
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Apr 07 2003 12:06am

TiTo (inactive)
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The Emperor get's thrown down the core of the DeathStar! Yoda is wiser... Yoda is older:D
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Apr 07 2003 12:00am

Jake Kainite
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Soon as I saw this thread I thought it'd be another chance for me to preach about darkside in FF duels. But its in the star wars section so you're speaking star wars related, not JKII.

Firstly buzz. Thats what yoda says, but don't you think he could be a bit biased ? Yoda reckons light is better, emperor swears by the darkside. Not saying that the darkside is more powerful, not at all.
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Apr 06 2003 11:45pm

Buzz
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 Buzz

Yoda already answered that question. It quicker and easier but not stronger.
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Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it.


Apr 06 2003 11:19pm

Lord Jaws
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 Lord Jaws

Just say if Obi-1 is a Jedi or A Sith (not that he would be, but say if he was...) when would he be stronger? is the dark side stronger.
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Apr 06 2003 11:18pm

TiTo (inactive)
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Depends on WHO, really...
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