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you know how there are those movie books that talk about all the armor and stuff (like lord of the rings). but in the movies when a guy gets hit once he falls over just like that? I hate this because it's like "what's the point of armor?" what do you guys think? _______________ none |
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none - Student |
Quote: Nobody knows what exactly a blaster bolt is. that's part of the magic _______________ none |
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JavaGuy - Student 
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Nobody knows what exactly a blaster bolt is. It's one of those things that is more interesting if left unexplained, and like many things in sci-fi I suspect that any attempt to explain it would be cheesy and end up being self-contradictory.
Lucas said in the opening pages of the first novel Star Wars back in '77 that the stormtroopers' armor would deflect a glancing blaster bolt but that there was no defense against a direct hit. That puts them at an advantage over the rebels. It would also protect them from being hit over the head or kicked in the nuggets. The prequels seem to suggest that a lightsabre cauterizes the wound when it severs a limb, which makes sense to me, but yeah, the alien in the cantina did have blood oozing from the severed arm. Just another continuity problem that the prequels introduce. 
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planK - Jedi Council 
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Well life on the farm is kinda laid back, ain't nothin' much a country boy like me can't hack! early to rise, early in the sack! thank gawd im a country boy! |
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Tallepyon - Student 
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Quote: Baby, baby...
Im aware of where you go... Each time you leave my door.. I watch you walk down the street... Knowing your other love youll meet.. But this time before you run to her... Leaving me alone and hurt... (think it over) after Ive been good to you ?... (think it over) after Ive been sweet to you ?... /dances Poser. |
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Maher - Jedi Knight 
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Baby, baby...
Im aware of where you go... Each time you leave my door.. I watch you walk down the street... Knowing your other love youll meet.. But this time before you run to her... Leaving me alone and hurt... (think it over) after Ive been good to you ?... (think it over) after Ive been sweet to you ?... /dances _______________ Still here | My Lightsaber |
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Carve - Student 
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In the... naaaaame of looooove... beeefooore you breeaaak my heeaaaart... _______________ © |
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none - Student |
STOP! _______________ none |
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Degor - Padawan 
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OMG Aidan is doing it again _______________ May the force be with you. And may the academy stand forever! |
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Aidan® - Aidan 
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ok then, but dont you think a wound like that would have a little more blood the a red flash, if there was any blood on screen _______________ Peace is a lie, there is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken. The Force shall free me. |
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Lian Del Rey - Student 
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I can't find a source anywhere, nor the location that I had originally read it, but I remember reading somewhere that supposedly Aqualish have some sort of funky blood tissue thing going on so that the lightsaber could not flash-cauterize it. Or something crazy. _______________ slorp |
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solitude - Jedi Council 
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Quote: I didn't see any red flash....
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none - Student |
I didn't see any red flash.... _______________ none |
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KHSenatu - Student 
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actually aidan ur wrong about maul that red flash at the bottom of the screen when obi slices him in half is his blood _______________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHgmY1eRjvU |
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Aidan® - Aidan 
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Quote: Really? You mean like when Ponda Baba's arm got cut off by Obi-Wan at Mos Eisley and there was blood all over the floor?
i do recall seeing blood, but if you have a look and many other lightsaber wounds you will see that this one experience is the only time in all the movies this ever happened, anakin got his arm cut off, no blood, maul got halfed, no blood, besides he his not human so he really is a bad example of a lightsaber attack causing bleeding, Quote:
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presuming the armor is as thick as it is on the chest, probably less thick
There's really no evidence to back that up whatsoever. ok, so i used logic here, why on earth would they make armor thicker on the legs and arms then on the stomach which has all the vital organs, is the largest and most likely place to get hit. Quote: Also I believe the armour consists of layers and thus molten fragments would not really come into contact with the skin.
ok if this is true then a hit to the chest would do nothing, the blaster needs to be able to penetrate through the armor to have any effect what so ever, other then maybe a bruise. _______________ Peace is a lie, there is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken. The Force shall free me. This comment was edited by Aidan® on Jul 07 2008 04:05pm. |
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Carve - Student 
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I think you need to re-read my post. _______________ © |
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Carbonel - Student |
well a lightsaber is very hot so it instantly cauterizez any wound it creates |
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Carve - Student
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Quote: no one could ever bleed to death from a blaster attack because the end result is a burn like with a lightsaber Really? You mean like when Ponda Baba's arm got cut off by Obi-Wan at Mos Eisley and there was blood all over the floor? Quote: if a blaster attack to the chest is fatal then an attack to the leg would be as bad as being unprotected That makes no logical sense. Being shot with armor on is better than being shot with no armor on. Armor provides a protective barrier, even if very it were very little it's still better than nothing. Quote: presuming the armor is as thick as it is on the chest, probably less thick
There's really no evidence to back that up whatsoever. Quote: in terms of hitting an artery it would probably do exactly the same damage if not worse because of the broken armor fragments imbedded into the wound, so if i got hit in the leg it wouldn't do that much in terms of protecting
Didn't see many armor fragments in the movies. Quote: also the armor already hinders the ability to move and if you were hit then the broken armor fragments would prevent any hope of movement.
Again, pure chance and based upon unquantified information. The worst scenario would be molten fragments of the armor causing damage to the person inside, but unless I am mistaken I believe stormtrooper armor has environmental defenses that prevent against things like extreme heat and cold. Also I believe the armour consists of layers and thus molten fragments would not really come into contact with the skin. Also note that I am not talking about direct hits to the leg, but rather deflecting glancing blows which would otherwise be crippling. _______________ © This comment was edited by Carve on Jul 07 2008 05:40am. |
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Carbonel - Student |
but it is not an object I phrased it wrong it is basicly a VERY hot energised gas flyuing through the air. |
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Aidan® - Aidan
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if you punch through something it will break, yes _______________ Peace is a lie, there is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken. The Force shall free me. |
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Carbonel - Student |
Blasters are not projectiles they dont fire a slug they make a hole they dont break armour they just punch through it so the armour fragments arent created |
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Aidan® - Aidan
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Quote: A shot to the leg most certainly can be fatal. The femoral artery is one of the largest arteries in the body. A leg injury is catastrophic
no one could ever bleed to death from a blaster attack because the end result is a burn like with a lightsaber, Quote: Also, do you really think a soldier is effective in combat if he only has one functional leg? Now what if, say, his armor protected his leg so that he was still mobile? Same goes for the arms
if a blaster attack to the chest is fatal then an attack to the leg would be as bad as being unprotected, presuming the armor is as thick as it is on the chest, probably less thick, in terms of hitting an artery it would probably do exactly the same damage if not worse because of the broken armor fragments imbedded into the wound, so if i got hit in the leg it wouldn't do that much in terms of protecting also the armor already hinders the ability to move and if you were hit then the broken armor fragments would prevent any hope of movement. _______________ Peace is a lie, there is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken. The Force shall free me. |
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Augusta_Mintaka - Student 
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Rather unnecessary attack without rational reason! Rule of thumb with injuries to the major blood pathways is:
"If he doesn't die from shock, then he will die from blood loss. If he doesn't die from blood loss, he will die from infection. If he doesn't die from infection, he will die when he sees his medical bill." Since aforementioned injury would be sustained by blaster fire (which I assume would not result in bleeding or blunt trauma), death would have to occur through shock (which means you took a phenomenal amount of damage to your leg) or infection which isn't something that usually kills right away. Although there are exceptions, they are rare and far apart. _______________ "Deos fortioribus adesse." |
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Carve - Student
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Quote: well i think that storm trooper armor = fail
in the body and head is where there armor would fail to keep them alive right, well if i was shot in the hand with no armor from a blaster pistol, i wouldn't die, if i was shot in the leg with no armor from a blaster pistol i wouldn't die, if i was shot in the arm with no armor from a blaster pistol i wouldn't die, do you see, if the head and chest shots still kill you then thats really no different to having no armor. I'm sorry, I just can't let this post stand. You clearly don't know what you're talking about. A shot to the leg most certainly can be fatal. The femoral artery is one of the largest arteries in the body. A leg injury is catastrophic (compound femur fractures are often fatal). Also, do you really think a soldier is effective in combat if he only has one functional leg? Now what if, say, his armor protected his leg so that he was still mobile? Same goes for the arms. To equate protection from glancing blows to no protection at all is just blatantly wrong. _______________ © |
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Augusta_Mintaka - Student
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I guess armor that can't deflect/protect against projectiles are used for kinetic protection. Such as plate armor and chain mail which were meant to absorb blunt blows and deflect piercing blows. Although, in regards to armor not doing either, probably purely aesthetics/organization. _______________ "Deos fortioribus adesse." |
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Aidan® - Aidan
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well i think that storm trooper armor = fail
in the body and head is where there armor would fail to keep them alive right, well if i was shot in the hand with no armor from a blaster pistol, i wouldn't die, if i was shot in the leg with no armor from a blaster pistol i wouldn't die, if i was shot in the arm with no armor from a blaster pistol i wouldn't die, do you see, if the head and chest shots still kill you then thats really no different to having no armor. _______________ Peace is a lie, there is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken. The Force shall free me. |
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